NBC/WSJ national poll: Clinton leads Cruz/Trump, trails Carson/Rubio
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« on: December 14, 2015, 12:23:55 AM »

NBC/WSJ national poll, conducted Dec. 6-9:

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/nbc-poll-clinton-would-trounce-trump-lose-rubio-carson-n478676

Clinton 50%
Trump 40%

Clinton 48%
Cruz 45%

Carson 47%
Clinton 46%

Rubio 48%
Clinton 45%
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2015, 12:38:29 AM »

NBC always seems to have low numbers in matchups with Trump.  The other numbers seem fine though.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 12:40:09 AM »

Good for Clinton that the two most likely candidates are trailing...I do not doubt trumps numbers.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2015, 01:33:35 AM »

The only explanation for Carson's numbers is that landline seniors with early-stage dementia are begin over-polled. They think Johnny is taking a crack a politics.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2015, 01:37:41 AM »

NBC/WSJ national poll, conducted Dec. 6-9:

Carson 47%
Clinton 46%

Rubio 48%
Clinton 45%


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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 01:45:58 AM »

The NBC/WSJ poll is very biased against Trump. Always gotta add 5-10 points to his numbers to get the accurate ones.
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 01:54:28 AM »

The NBC/WSJ poll is very biased against Trump. Always gotta add 5-10 points to his numbers to get the accurate ones.
You're gonna be disappointed when on Feb 1st Ted Cruz will take the "belt of gold" and hang trump
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 08:32:46 AM »

Continuous good numbers for Rubio.

Obviously poor Trump numbers because that's reality, and Ted's numbers consistent as well (slouched 2012 style loss against Hillary)
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2015, 01:06:29 PM »

The reason why Trump is not doing well is because establishment Republicans right now are trying to say that they won't vote for him in the general election, in order to try to sabotage his numbers and take him down. But faced with the actual choice between him or Hillary, the vast majority of them will come around.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2015, 01:55:47 PM »

Cruz will lose by more than 3% in the end, no one other than political minded people know how out there his positions are.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2015, 02:30:41 PM »

I don't buy that theocratic extremists such as Cruz, Rubio and Carson would have a close race with Hillary while a reasonable moderate like Trump would get crushed.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2015, 03:12:12 PM »

I think the wild card with Cruz is debate performance. He's pretty good at picking apart others arguments. Trump and Rubio would probably at best be a draw against Hillary. Trump's wildcard is turnout. Do enough blue collar whites turnout for him to offset his loss of minorities and more upscale republicans? I think Rubio VS Clinton is much more predictable and Rubio starts with the small advantage we are seeing in most polls.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2015, 04:03:33 PM »

I don't buy that theocratic extremists such as Cruz, Rubio and Carson would have a close race with Hillary while a reasonable moderate like Trump would get crushed.

Trump's rhetoric is moderate and Rubio is extreme?

What are you smoking on buddy, Jeb Bush wants a hit.
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2015, 04:22:23 PM »

Trump's rhetoric is moderate and Rubio is extreme?

The former hasn't pledged to overturn SSM via court packing - which is a policy that has less support amongst both Republican voters and Americans as a whole than banning Muslims.
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2015, 04:33:23 PM »

I seriously doubt the Trump numbers, Gravis has Trump losing 51/49 & Cruz behind 52/48.
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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2015, 05:24:15 PM »

I rather have Cruz as nominee
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2015, 05:27:19 PM »

Why are people even still polling Carson
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2015, 05:30:25 PM »


What would the electoral map look like if a Republican won by 3 points nationally? I guess something like this?



327-211

Republicans ain't winnin Minnesota.
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2015, 05:59:23 PM »

PPP will give some indication of how Iowa (and possibly Wisconsin) will go this week.
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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2015, 09:48:05 PM »

More noteworthy is the lack of an age gap (unless Trump is the nominee).

Rubio and Carson are even with Hillary among young voters, while Cruz is behind but far better than Romney 2012.  Only Trump gets smoked with 18-34 voters.  Probably this means that Rubio and Carson are far ahead with 18-24.
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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2015, 10:08:18 PM »


What would the electoral map look like if a Republican won by 3 points nationally? I guess something like this?



327-211

Republicans ain't winnin Minnesota.

He was just doing PVI I'm pretty sure.
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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2015, 10:50:44 PM »


What would the electoral map look like if a Republican won by 3 points nationally? I guess something like this?



327-211

Republicans ain't winnin Minnesota.

He was just doing PVI I'm pretty sure.

Well, it's TNVol, so PVI minus New Hampshire
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