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« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2015, 10:27:25 PM »

All things considered, Clinton has a whole delegation of Latino Congresswomen, in the state of NV who supports her.

Then why is Bush not leading with all his endoresments? Lol

Because GOP primary voters are tired of party leadership and are in an anti-establishment mood. They don't want to be told who to vote for by people who promised them everything and delivered nothing.
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« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2015, 10:31:00 PM »

All things considered, Clinton has a whole delegation of Latino Congresswomen, in the state of NV who supports her.

Then why is Bush not leading with all his endoresments? Lol

Because GOP primary voters are tired of party leadership and are in an anti-establishment mood. They don't want to be told who to vote for by people who promised them everything and delivered nothing.

Pretty sure all of the US is tired of establisment politics. Endorsments mean nothing this cycle.
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« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2015, 11:25:46 PM »

I don't see why Hispanics would make Bernie lose by more than 12. California's Field poll had Bernie down only 12 points.
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« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2015, 11:31:50 PM »
« Edited: December 18, 2015, 01:42:09 AM by Eraserhead »

Just wondering if this is a legitimate pollster or not...
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« Reply #54 on: December 18, 2015, 12:09:06 AM »

Lucy Flores, Dina Titus & Masteo-Cortez
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« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2015, 12:15:48 AM »

Lucy Flores, Dina Titus & Masteo-Cortez

I am sorry, but if Flores is the nominee, Hardy will be re-elected. Democrats need to nominate Kihuen if they want that seat. And Masto's odds of winning are roughly a coin flip, Heck is a great recruit for the republicans.
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« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2015, 12:50:28 AM »

Wait, is OC calling Dina Titus latina?  😂
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« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2015, 01:01:53 AM »

Could NV finally get some actual polls by people who know how to poll at some point? It's ridiculous that one of the four early states has been this ignored.
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« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2015, 01:10:03 AM »

These guys seem like junk, but only time will tell.
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« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2015, 01:12:37 AM »

These guys seem like junk, but only time will tell.

Maybe they're just bad at polling diverse states? Their Iowa numbers lined up with DMR, but these and those SC numbers are out of left field.
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« Reply #60 on: December 18, 2015, 01:14:04 AM »

These guys seem like junk, but only time will tell.

Maybe they're just bad at polling diverse states? Their Iowa numbers lined up with DMR, but these and those SC numbers are out of left field.
Could be. They don't ask demographic questions at all, so it is impossible to know if white voters are being oversampled.
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« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2015, 01:44:50 AM »

These guys seem like junk, but only time will tell.

Maybe they're just bad at polling diverse states? Their Iowa numbers lined up with DMR, but these and those SC numbers are out of left field.

Maybe their Republican numbers will be better then, since the party's primary/caucus electorate is much less diverse.  Tongue
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« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2015, 05:00:03 AM »

I don't see why Hispanics would make Bernie lose by more than 12. California's Field poll had Bernie down only 12 points.

So no one took the bait? California has even more Hispanics. And primaries tend to be better for Hillary than caucuses. And yet it's the same 12 points.
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« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2015, 05:06:32 AM »

I don't see why Hispanics would make Bernie lose by more than 12. California's Field poll had Bernie down only 12 points.

So no one took the bait? California has even more Hispanics. And primaries tend to be better for Hillary than caucuses. And yet it's the same 12 points.
White Democrats in California are much more liberal than white Democrats in Nevada.
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« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2015, 05:13:06 AM »

I don't see why Hispanics would make Bernie lose by more than 12. California's Field poll had Bernie down only 12 points.

So no one took the bait? California has even more Hispanics. And primaries tend to be better for Hillary than caucuses. And yet it's the same 12 points.
White Democrats in California are much more liberal than white Democrats in Nevada.

Well, something had to cancel out the fact that California has more Hispanics and is a primary and not a caucus. And Calfiornia certainly has white conservadems. Even the bay area has ones like Chuck Reed and Eric Swalwell.
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« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2015, 09:51:27 AM »

I don't see why Hispanics would make Bernie lose by more than 12. California's Field poll had Bernie down only 12 points.

So no one took the bait? California has even more Hispanics. And primaries tend to be better for Hillary than caucuses. And yet it's the same 12 points.
White Democrats in California are much more liberal than white Democrats in Nevada.

Well, something had to cancel out the fact that California has more Hispanics and is a primary and not a caucus. And Calfiornia certainly has white conservadems. Even the bay area has ones like Chuck Reed and Eric Swalwell.

FTR, Swalwell supports O'Malley
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« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2015, 02:28:55 PM »

Polling the NV Dem caucus is probably the most challenging polling to be done. Getting caucus goers is hard enough but then you have the issue of high percent of hard to reach Hispanics. Plus GOTV organizations probably have more effect than any other race.    So I'm skeptical this brand new outfit from outside the state has nailed it.
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« Reply #67 on: December 18, 2015, 02:32:55 PM »

Good to see that Sanders keeps on surging across the board.

No wonder the Clinton campaign and its helpers are coming out with the butcher knives now ...
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« Reply #68 on: December 18, 2015, 02:34:38 PM »

Good to see that Sanders keeps on surging across the board.

No wonder the Clinton campaign and its helpers are coming out with the butcher knives now ...

No comments about their methodology?
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« Reply #69 on: December 18, 2015, 05:41:54 PM »

Good to see that Sanders keeps on surging across the board.

No wonder the Clinton campaign and its helpers are coming out with the butcher knives now ...

No comments about their methodology?

As long as Tender likes the numbers he can continue a particular narrative... It doesn't matter
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« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2015, 07:36:58 PM »

Overtime Politics poll of Colorado:

http://overtimepolitics.com/hillary-clinton-leads-bernie-sanders-49-36-in-colorado-11-undecided/

Clinton 49%
Sanders 36%
O'Malley 4%
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« Reply #71 on: December 19, 2015, 07:38:43 PM »

I think Overtime Politics is overestimating Clinton's support here by about 45%, maybe even more. This is Colorado after all.
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« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2015, 12:39:40 AM »

Caucuses are hard to poll. I still think that this will be one of Sanders's better chances to win somewhere outside of VT on Super Tuesday.

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I think Overtime Politics is overestimating Clinton's support here by about 45%, maybe even more. This is Colorado after all.
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« Reply #73 on: December 20, 2015, 12:42:05 AM »

Hillary is going down!
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« Reply #74 on: December 20, 2015, 03:50:12 AM »

This is the most meaninful, because CO is the bellweather and she polls poorly against GOP. If she wins here, she solifies the Latino vote.
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