Warner or Hillary v. Frist

[Keystone Phil]

Well isn't this interesting...

Just a few days ago, I was arguing with nick and Smash about how Hillary Clinton was not popular enough to win the Presidency and that a majority of Americans do not approve of her. Well, I was wrong.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-26-hillary-poll_x.htm

Don't know if I can buy that 53% of Americans would vote for her but I still thought it was worth mentioning. Pretty interesting.

Interesting. I'd rather someone else, but if she's at 53%, I might have to support her in the primary.

Note, though, that people are seeing her as more of a moderate. In a Presidential campaign, that label would not last long with her.

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Well isn't this interesting...

Just a few days ago, I was arguing with nick and Smash about how Hillary Clinton was not popular enough to win the Presidency and that a majority of Americans do not approve of her. Well, I was wrong.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-26-hillary-poll_x.htm

Don't know if I can buy that 53% of Americans would vote for her but I still thought it was worth mentioning. Pretty interesting.

Interesting. I'd rather someone else, but if she's at 53%, I might have to support her in the primary.

Note, though, that people are seeing her as more of a moderate. In a Presidential campaign, that label would not last long with her.

She is a moderate. She voted for Condi Rice and the Iraq war. She said something about being personally opposed to abortion.

[Keystone Phil]

She is a moderate. She voted for Condi Rice and the Iraq war. She said something about being personally opposed to abortion.

Those three issues don't make someone a moderate.

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She is a moderate. She voted for Condi Rice and the Iraq war. She said something about being personally opposed to abortion.

Those three issues don't make someone a moderate.

You're right, they make someone a conservative. Haha, seriously, what is she liberal on? The Iraq war is a major issue.

[Keystone Phil]

She is a moderate. She voted for Condi Rice and the Iraq war. She said something about being personally opposed to abortion.

Those three issues don't make someone a moderate.

 Haha, seriously, what is she liberal on?

  You can't be serious.

[Smash255]

She is a moderate. She voted for Condi Rice and the Iraq war. She said something about being personally opposed to abortion.

Those three issues don't make someone a moderate.

She is closer to the center than Santorum & Frist are.
  Hillary is more liberal than her husband, but she doesn't rank in the top 10 among most liberal Dem Senators, both Frist & Santorum fit into the top 10 most conservative Republicans


Phil I have to at least give you credit for admitting Hillary is more popular than you thought she was

[Keystone Phil]

She is a moderate. She voted for Condi Rice and the Iraq war. She said something about being personally opposed to abortion.

Those three issues don't make someone a moderate.

Phil I have to at least give you credit for admitting Hillary is more popular than you thought she was

Give me credit for posting the poll. I'm not sure if I am sure of those numbers. 53% voting for her doesn't seem right and I'm sure that number will go way down when we get closer to 2008.

[TheresNoMoney]

Someone tell me some issues that Hillary is liberal on.

[Smash255]

She is a moderate. She voted for Condi Rice and the Iraq war. She said something about being personally opposed to abortion.

Those three issues don't make someone a moderate.

Phil I have to at least give you credit for admitting Hillary is more popular than you thought she was

Give me credit for posting the poll. I'm not sure if I am sure of those numbers. 53% voting for her doesn't seem right and I'm sure that number will go way down when we get closer to 2008.

She is more popular than you think.  I'm not all that suprised by her #'s.  She is VERY POPULAR in NY and as Senator of NY has made inroads across the country  Her favorability ratings have continued to go up  (you have said you think more people don't like her than like her, but her favorability hasn't been negative in  2 years)

[Keystone Phil]

She is more popular than you think.  I'm not all that suprised by her #'s.  She is VERY POPULAR in NY and as Senator of NY has made inroads across the country  Her favorability ratings have continued to go up  (you have said you think more people don't like her than like her, but her favorability hasn't been negative in  2 years)

NY is one thing. Last time I checked, this wasn't a race for President of the Empire State.

[tarheel-leftist85]

Someone tell me some issues that Hillary is liberal on.

In 2004, she got a 0 out 100 from the American Conservative Union, just like Kerry. Evan Bayh gets a more moderate 20 (BTW, voted for the $87bil. like any smart person would) as do Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor.  Zell Miller got a 96, higher than Lindsey Graham (92).  By the numbers, she's a liberal.
American Conservative Union: 
http://www.acuratings.org/default.asp?ratingsyear=2004

[Smash255]

She is more popular than you think.  I'm not all that suprised by her #'s.  She is VERY POPULAR in NY and as Senator of NY has made inroads across the country  Her favorability ratings have continued to go up  (you have said you think more people don't like her than like her, but her favorability hasn't been negative in  2 years)

NY is one thing. Last time I checked, this wasn't a race for President of the Empire State.

Point I was making is as her approval has gone up in NY, her favorability (likability) has gone up nationwide as well