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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2015, 05:03:03 AM »

All the way with RFK
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« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2015, 08:38:46 AM »

cc Henry Clay
cc-NYCharles E Hughes
S-NY RFK
S-Ma Edward Kennedy
S-Ca Jerry Brown
P-Va John Warner

cc- moderate GOP
S-secular
P- populist
T- conservative

This makes no sense.
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« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2015, 08:49:40 AM »

RHenry Clay
R-NYCharles E Hughes
D-NY RFK
D-Ma Edward Kennedy
D-Ca Jerry Brown
D-Va John Warner



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« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2015, 12:42:58 PM »

Fremont and Goldwater
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« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2015, 12:44:18 PM »

Ron Paul
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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2015, 01:34:02 PM »

Barry Goldwater for sure. Henry Clay as well.
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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2015, 01:40:55 PM »

Joe Biden 2017-2025 RIP. Cry
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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2015, 01:54:07 PM »

RFK and Bryan are solid choices, but no one's said Alexander Hamilton yet?
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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2015, 01:57:18 PM »

RFK and Bryan are solid choices, but no one's said Alexander Hamilton yet?

Hamilton by 1798 wanted the equivalent of a military dictatorship, so...
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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2015, 02:33:03 PM »

RFK and Bryan are solid choices, but no one's said Alexander Hamilton yet?

Hamilton by 1798 wanted the equivalent of a military dictatorship, so...

Hamilton by all accounts was one of the most intelligent statesmen in US history, and I've often heard the theory floated by biographers (which I have no trouble buying into) that Hamilton put forth more extreme versions of his ideas in an effort to shift the "consensus" closer to him and further from Jefferson.
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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2015, 02:35:10 PM »

RFK and Bryan are solid choices, but no one's said Alexander Hamilton yet?

Hamilton by 1798 wanted the equivalent of a military dictatorship, so...

So? The US was on the brink of war with France. Regardless, Hamilton always wanted a more robust government than the other founders. He would've likely been either a great, transformational figure as President or a scathingly unpopular failure. That potential alone should put him squarely in this discussion.
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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2015, 02:53:49 PM »

RFK and Bryan are solid choices, but no one's said Alexander Hamilton yet?

Hamilton by 1798 wanted the equivalent of a military dictatorship, so...

So? The US was on the brink of war with France. Regardless, Hamilton always wanted a more robust government than the other founders. He would've likely been either a great, transformational figure as President or a scathingly unpopular failure. That potential alone should put him squarely in this discussion.

There's also the third option that he really would have declared martial law in the Jeffersonian states, invaded Spanish Florida and Louisiana (rand Mexico if that went well), and declare war on France. I don't see how these actions would not lead to either civil war or foreign recolonization.
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« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2015, 04:12:28 PM »

Henry Clay
Barry Goldwater
Jack Kemp
Scoop Jackson
Joe Lieberman
RFK
Mitt Romney
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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2015, 05:40:27 PM »

Mitt Romney deserves to be on the list.
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« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2015, 10:36:31 PM »

This could spell badly for the Allies...

Bobby Kennedy, Scoop Jackson, William Seward, Jerry Brown
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« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2015, 02:02:58 AM »

Mitt Romney. No Obama second term, possibly no ISIS, Keystone Pipeline, less racial division, and no Trump.
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« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2015, 02:31:23 AM »

Mitt Romney. No Obama second term, possibly no ISIS, Keystone Pipeline, less racial division, and no Trump.

lol. It still astounds me how dense you are.
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« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2015, 01:14:13 PM »

Henry Clay
Barry Goldwater
Jack Kemp
Scoop Jackson
Joe Lieberman
RFK
Mitt Romney

Right, I knew I was forgetting someone. Kemp would've been great.


I left off Romney because there's still a chance (however small it is).
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« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2015, 02:13:36 PM »

Please Romney is a Kerry type figure-wouldn't of been an awful president but would have been extremely average.

The idea that Romney would stop ISIS is well just wrong-the agreement the states signed in 2008 (under Bush) meant that we couldn't IIRC put ground troops back in Iraq until 2013, and even then the problem wasn't a lack of US force-the problem was that the Iraqi army folded
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« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2015, 07:18:38 PM »

What about Lyndon LaRouche?
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« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2015, 08:36:48 PM »

Spiro Agnew, John Connally and Bob Dole amongst others.
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« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2015, 08:42:39 PM »

Spiro Agnew, John Connally and Bob Dole amongst others.

Connally!? The man who advised Nixon to approve of wage and price controls!? The man who let President Kennedy die by failing to protect his commander-in-chief and former boss!?
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« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2015, 08:47:41 PM »

Sam Nunn, Jim Webb, Dave McCurdy (probably should have won the Oklahoma Senate election in 1994, may have been a tougher challenger to Gore in '00 than Bradley was)

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1991-10-19/news/9110191116_1_dave-mccurdy-tom-harkin-oklahoma-democrat

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/05/us/1994-campaign-oklahoma-s-senate-race-both-candidates-are-running-against-clinton.html?pagewanted=all

http://articles.philly.com/1991-04-04/news/25778003_1_buffalo-chips-democratic-leadership-council-war-plans
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« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2015, 10:34:11 PM »

-Rufus King
-Charles Francis Adams
-James Birney
-John Hale
-Charles Evans Hughes
-Alf Landon
-Wendell Willkie
-Thomas E. Dewey
-Margaret Chase Smith
-Nelson Rockefeller
-Bill Scranton
-George Romney
-John A. Volpe
-Mark Hatfield
-Tom McCall
-Chuck Percy
-Malcolm Wilson
-John Anderson
-Howard Baker
-Jack Kemp (Perhaps the greatest of all)
-Pete DuPont
-Bob Dole
-Jim Edgar
-Pete Wilson
-Dick Lugar
-Bill Weld
-Tommy Thompson
-John McCain
-Mitt Romney
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« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2015, 03:12:23 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2015, 03:21:34 PM by OC »

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