Most Republicans say Trump is the most electable, most competent candidate

[Blue3]

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-gfk-poll-trump-tops-decisiveness-electability-085435921--election.html



Like I've said before, it's like they live in a different universe...

[Maxwell]

They're not entirely wrong. He's certainly the most politically adept.

[EliteLX]

They're not entirely wrong. He's certainly the most politically adept.

They are, for the most part, entirely wrong.

He is, for a fact, not the most electable GOP'er in the block this year. The "blue collar savior" is a myth. He would not magically pull out any new rust belt states, would fall drastically to low 20's, at most tie, with 2012 Hispanic numbers. Would without a doubt hold under 8-9% with African Americans as well. He would also be guaranteed to have numbers drop with white middle class suburban educated Americans, one of the Caucasian demographics strongest sects. His only sect he would squeeze out is high school educated rural & non-suburban whites, that's it.

Nor is he the most politically skilled, in this universe or the next one over. His policy proposals are screaming semi-facist nationalistic immigration rhetoric, speaking out against "PC culture", and reading stereotypical line-for-line military rhetoric (see: "I would bomb the sh**t out of em"). He and his campaign managers clearly know this, as it's driving their poll #s. Trump knows 75% of his policies wouldn't make it past a third of congress and if by a God given miracle did, would be struck down by the supreme court.

It's all a ploy. There is no policy proposal. He's playing to a large (in my open, ignorant) sect of the Republican Party because it works, and he's having resounding success with it.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Trump has the highest number who believe he is electable and competent, and most Republicans believe he will be able to win the general election.  That is not the same as most thinking he is the most electable and most competent. 

[Maxwell]

ugh

politically adept does not equal concrete policy proposals. In fact, in our history it has been completely the opposite (H.W. Bush's smear campaign against Dukakis worked wonders against the boring policy wonk, as did W. Bush's smear campaign against boring policy wonk John Kerry). Being politically adept means you have messaging that plays well to the public. You don't have to like Trump's political language or what he says to recognize he's a political pro.

[EliteLX]

ugh

politically adept does not equal concrete policy proposals. In fact, in our history it has been completely the opposite (H.W. Bush's smear campaign against Dukakis worked wonders against the boring policy wonk, as did W. Bush's smear campaign against boring policy wonk John Kerry). Being politically adept means you have messaging that plays well to the public. You don't have to like Trump's political language or what he says to recognize he's a political pro.

In the case of Trump delivering a message to his target, then yes, he is politically a mastermind. I don't think the United States has seen a "politician" play ball like this, ever. As I agreed with in another thread, he has stumped just about everybody he went over and now holds the RNC by the throat with the threat of an independent run and a loyal base.

Sure.

[Adam Griffin]

Trump has successfully de-polarized himself to a large degree within the GOP (compared to where he was), so standard rules now apply to him, too: the frontrunner in a primary will be identified as "the most electable", "the most competent", "the most likely to win the primary", "the best-looking", etc.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

EliteLX missed the poll where he exactly tied Romney's standing with Hispanics I see, and this is before the general even kicks into gear when goes for their votes AND with undecideds!

Trump also dominated with Floridian Spanish-speaking voters in a GE poll while Rubio got 33%. In his home state. Even with the increased MoE, Trump was higher by a statistically significant margin. (Though even I admit this is not the same exact measure as Hispanics, of course, but I expected worse numbers not better!)

[Coolface Sock #42069]

Just delusional.

[Zioneer]

Thanks for the 2016 White House, Republicans. We really appreciate it.

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

ugh

politically adept does not equal concrete policy proposals. In fact, in our history it has been completely the opposite (H.W. Bush's smear campaign against Dukakis worked wonders against the boring policy wonk, as did W. Bush's smear campaign against boring policy wonk John Kerry). Being politically adept means you have messaging that plays well to the public. You don't have to like Trump's political language or what he says to recognize he's a political pro.

He really is and candidates with substance always lose.  Bush got away with saying things like "thousands of people for thousands of generations" and "too many good OBGYN's going out of business not being able to practice their love with women across this great nation.  His comments were greeted with thunderous applause.  Kerry was a dork and talked alot about numbers.  In other words he was boring.  Only 10% of the electorate are able to be swayed and of those 10%, most of them are only undecided because they don't pay attention.  It's a sales game and the best salesman wins. Let's not forget Bob Dole talking about his qualities in terms of wisdom and age, McCain outlining his 2005 plan for the foreseen housing bubble, or Gore's boring climate statistics.  Plus, take what Trump says with a grain of salt like you would any politician.  Having said that, I believe Trump is top 3 in terms of elect-ability for the GOP.  John Kasich in my book is the most elect-able.  I really liked Scott Walker too.  It's too bad he dropped out.

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

EliteLX missed the poll where he exactly tied Romney's standing with Hispanics I see, and this is before the general even kicks into gear when goes for their votes AND with undecideds!

Trump also dominated with Floridian Spanish-speaking voters in a GE poll while Rubio got 33%. In his home state. Even with the increased MoE, Trump was higher by a statistically significant margin. (Though even I admit this is not the same exact measure as Hispanics, of course, but I expected worse numbers not better!)

I'll never understand why the left enjoys numbers so much, but yes, take that liberals!