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« on: December 11, 2015, 09:29:54 AM »

Think about it. Two dangerously handsome Republicans, one a senator from the Plains and one a govern or from the South running together after being selected in July's convention after a brokered convention. Could this be the ticket that saves the GOP once and for all?
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2015, 09:34:18 AM »

This is the type of scenario that only exists on Atlas.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2015, 10:45:52 AM »

This is the type of scenario that only exists on Atlas.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2015, 10:51:32 AM »

No it is not, Alex. Haslam or Thune can deliver votes for the GOP. Haslam is a pro life Southern gent. Probably what the GOP needs.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM »

John Thune for President?  What is this, 2006?

Also approximately five people outside of Atlas have ever heard of Haslam lol
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2015, 11:02:04 AM »

Not to mention this wouldn't be a compromise at all they are both establishment pragmatic types.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2015, 11:09:19 AM »

I could see this being the justification for a compromise ticket; as in, "you nutty fycking fools better get your crap together, or else we're going to void the convention/primary and this will be your ticket"
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2015, 12:58:39 PM »

lol this is the kind of ticket that gets the GOP minor party status
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2015, 01:05:14 PM »

I know my pulse is racing.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2015, 01:17:57 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2015, 01:25:44 PM »

Why do people keep posting combinations of people who aren't even running?

Do people honestly think after wasting everyone's time and money for years the party can just pick a couple of people who aren't even on the radar and expect the party faithful to show up at the polls in November?  Completely ignoring the will of the voters is not the best way to start a presidential campaign.
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2015, 02:27:36 PM »

Why do people keep posting combinations of people who aren't even running?

Do people honestly think after wasting everyone's time and money for years the party can just pick a couple of people who aren't even on the radar and expect the party faithful to show up at the polls in November?  Completely ignoring the will of the voters is not the best way to start a presidential campaign.

In some cases, yes.  In 1992, if there were a deadlock and Clinton had appeared weak, the Democrats would possibly have tried to "airlift" a candidate into the convention.  Someone like Lloyd Bentsen or Sam Nunn, maybe.  Maybe Dick Gephardt.  It was a weak, weak field, until Clinton asserted himself a bit.

This field of GOP candidates is a strong field, in the sense that many are well-known and well-funded.  The idea that a John Davis-type could emerge after repeated balloting is kind of silly; too much money is invested by too many important folks in the candidates running.  Frankly, the only way this can end well for the Establishment is to make a deal with Cruz.  Unthinkable 6 months ago, but the only way out now.
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2015, 02:58:17 PM »

In some cases, yes.  In 1992, if there were a deadlock and Clinton had appeared weak, the Democrats would possibly have tried to "airlift" a candidate into the convention.  Someone like Lloyd Bentsen or Sam Nunn, maybe.  Maybe Dick Gephardt.  It was a weak, weak field, until Clinton asserted himself a bit.
I would vote for the Thune ticket happily.
Speaking of 1992, I recall 2 names thrown around on the down-low in the very early stages, before Clinton really took off: Walter Mondale and George McGovern.  Not kidding!
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2015, 02:59:27 PM »

Why do people keep posting combinations of people who aren't even running?

Do people honestly think after wasting everyone's time and money for years the party can just pick a couple of people who aren't even on the radar and expect the party faithful to show up at the polls in November?  Completely ignoring the will of the voters is not the best way to start a presidential campaign.

In some cases, yes.  In 1992, if there were a deadlock and Clinton had appeared weak, the Democrats would possibly have tried to "airlift" a candidate into the convention.  Someone like Lloyd Bentsen or Sam Nunn, maybe.  Maybe Dick Gephardt.  It was a weak, weak field, until Clinton asserted himself a bit.

This field of GOP candidates is a strong field, in the sense that many are well-known and well-funded.  The idea that a John Davis-type could emerge after repeated balloting is kind of silly; too much money is invested by too many important folks in the candidates running.  Frankly, the only way this can end well for the Establishment is to make a deal with Cruz.  Unthinkable 6 months ago, but the only way out now.

I'm too young to remember the 1992 contest so I can't possibly comment on that but you kind of laid out my point.  So much time, money, and air time has been invested I just don't see how you can say none of that counts and choose someone who hasn't gone to a single debate, given a single speech, done a single presser etc. and say, there's your candidate.

The other thing is we have all learned primaries are great at toughening candidates and weeding out duds.  Imagine if Rick Perry never ran for president and they air lifted him to save the day.
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2015, 05:11:21 PM »

Haslam at least has charisma. If anything, a Haslam/Rubio ticket is the establishment's dream ticket. Haslam is by far the best outsider moderate they could nominate.
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2015, 06:40:59 PM »

Think about it. Two dangerously handsome Republicans, one a senator from the Plains and one a govern or from the South running together after being selected in July's convention after a brokered convention. Could this be the ticket that saves the GOP once and for all?

From states that Democrats have no chance of winning. VP candidates for ideological consistency, but that is all that I can see.
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2015, 11:10:12 PM »




DANGEROUSLY HANDSOME
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2015, 11:24:19 PM »

I could see this being the justification for a compromise ticket; as in, "you nutty fycking fools better get your crap together, or else we're going to void the convention/primary and this will be your ticket"

I would love the establishment to step in like this. Sadly, it could be counterproductive. That said, for many reasons, the Republican establishment is a good force in this country.
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2015, 07:11:02 AM »

Not to mention this wouldn't be a compromise at all they are both establishment pragmatic types.

Thune is very Conservative on social issues and on immigration, I would point out.
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2015, 07:47:40 AM »

Lol. My suspicion that bronz is trolling us seems more likely.
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2015, 11:11:26 AM »

No it is not, Alex. Haslam or Thune can deliver votes for the GOP. Haslam is a pro life Southern gent. Probably what the GOP needs.
As a southerner I can affirm dislike for Haslam because he's too moderate. We need a conservative nominee and republicans are tired of not getting one.
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2015, 11:29:06 AM »

This would be a plain establishment ticket.

There would be some interesting questions about a brokered convention.

Would all sides be so wounded that someone who hasn't run would be the more appealing candidate?
Would a newcomer be a more acceptable second choice to the delegates of a candidate than someone they had been running against for an year?
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2015, 12:07:12 PM »

This would be a plain establishment ticket.

There would be some interesting questions about a brokered convention.

Would all sides be so wounded that someone who hasn't run would be the more appealing candidate?
Would a newcomer be a more acceptable second choice to the delegates of a candidate than someone they had been running against for an year?

I think Rand Paul is very possible as a compromise ticket. He'd have to pick a moderate establishment person the base wouldn't mind too much. Would Rand Paul/Condoleezza Rice be an acceptable deal to most sides, do you think?
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2015, 12:39:56 PM »

This would be a plain establishment ticket.

There would be some interesting questions about a brokered convention.

Would all sides be so wounded that someone who hasn't run would be the more appealing candidate?
Would a newcomer be a more acceptable second choice to the delegates of a candidate than someone they had been running against for an year?

I think Rand Paul is very possible as a compromise ticket. He'd have to pick a moderate establishment person the base wouldn't mind too much. Would Rand Paul/Condoleezza Rice be an acceptable deal to most sides, do you think?

No wtf, someone who is polling three percent with libertarian leanings in a national secutity themed election year paired with a pro-choice Dubya apparatchik who outwardly dislikes electoral politics would be a disaster that would fail to satisfy every faction, and go down in flames in the general.
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