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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2015, 11:19:15 AM »

He is an idiot. A lot of people on the no fly list arent suppose to be there.
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2015, 11:20:20 AM »

Really goes to show you that any idiot can win a governor's race. This guy may be one of the worst politicians I've ever seen.

Lief is no better than Romney when it comes to sticking to your positions. Enthusiastically supported Obama in '12 (who is pro-gun control), now believes we should let TERRORISTS buy guns.

I'm not making any commentary on what we should or should not do wrt to this issue. This sub-forum is about the 2016 election, not for debating policy (you can check my posts in the, I believe, U.S. General Discussion forum where I made a post espousing my views on this issue). I'm just pointing out that Kasich is a hilariously incompetent politician.

Saying we should keep guns away from terrorists /=/ Incompetency

only a libtard idiot thinks we can keep guns away from terrorists.
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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2015, 12:04:25 PM »

Let's start by disarming the bodyguards of this Lehman Brothers vulture capitalist.

DAR, rich people are bad and scary!!!!!!


This is the kind of white trash sh^t Trump is attracting to the party.  It's sad.
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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2015, 12:05:38 PM »

Let's start by disarming the bodyguards of this Lehman Brothers vulture capitalist.

DAR, rich people are bad and scary!!!!!!


This is the kind of white trash sh^t Trump is attracting to the party.  It's sad.

The Republican party has spent decades coveting the "white trash" segment of the American population. They simply want what they've been promised and denied time and time again.
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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2015, 02:22:42 PM »


 There have been a lot of issues with false positives (the wikipedia article on this is a mile long) but the consequences of a false positive are that you have to wait a week to purchase your gun as you identify yourself to your local chapter of the ATF (presumably) ....

A week? This would be a significant overhaul of the current policies. The TSA No-Fly List is separate from the FBI Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB), but is required to have all the names (not identities) from the FBI list. Under law, you can only challenge the TSA's decision to place you on the No-Fly list; The FBI list is secret, non-final, and not reviewable under the Administrative Procedures Act. But a challenge against the TSA is only successful if TSA made a mistake when making the No-Fly List, which means TSA added your name without any reason. If they point to a name on the FBI list though (which they won't even openly do during a complaint for security reasons), TSA's decision to restrict your travel is nonarbitrary and thus legally valid.

So if your name is on the FBI list, you can't challenge it; and if your name is on the TSA list, you really need to challenge the FBI list (which you can't). It's a disgusting, unworkable Catch-22. The only real successful way others have had to delist themselves (other than being a member of Congress) is to spend several years in Federal Courts suing for the extraordinary writ of mandamus. That is not fair, and it is not due process. "Liberals" used to hate this secret list. 72 DHS employees are on it. We're talking thousands upon thousands of names, not just "terrorists". But now, its apparently great that we have it because muh guns are bad mkay.
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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2015, 04:42:22 PM »

What is Trump's stance on this issue? One would think that if a candidate wants to ban muslims from entering the country, he wouldn't have a problem with banning the muslims already in the country from owning firearms.
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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2015, 04:46:44 PM »

What is Trump's stance on this issue? One would think that if a candidate wants to ban muslims from entering the country, he wouldn't have a problem with banning the muslims already in the country from owning firearms.

One would think, but... Trump.
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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2015, 04:51:09 PM »

Let's start by disarming the bodyguards of this Lehman Brothers vulture capitalist.

DAR, rich people are bad and scary!!!!!!


This is the kind of white trash sh^t Trump is attracting to the party.  It's sad.

Your steadfast allegiance to your corporate masters is almost as stunning as your disdain for the American people. Perhaps one day you'll be rewarded for it.
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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2015, 05:17:54 PM »

Let's start by disarming the bodyguards of this Lehman Brothers vulture capitalist.

DAR, rich people are bad and scary!!!!!!


This is the kind of white trash sh^t Trump is attracting to the party.  It's sad.

Your steadfast allegiance to your corporate masters is almost as stunning as your disdain for the American people. Perhaps one day you'll be rewarded for it.

A lot of middle ground between steadfast allegiance and demonizing them in the style of Bernie Sanders.
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