Trump calls for ban on Muslim entry to US

[Red Willow]

Should we not take control of our borders?  Especially in this case, where radicalized Muslims want to do us harm?
Liberals always seem to be more worried about not descriminating, and not hurting feelings of various groups, than taking necessary action!

To liberals, the "necessary action" is to allow anyone in that wants to be here. They view borders as just "lines on a map" and want our country to big one giant homeless shelter.

[Zache]

Should we not take control of our borders?  Especially in this case, where radicalized Muslims want to do us harm?
Liberals always seem to be more worried about not descriminating, and not hurting feelings of various groups, than taking necessary action!

How about the Muslim population already within our borders? My Muslim buddies, American born and raised, left on a cruise to Mexico a couple of days ago. Should they be left stranded, homeless, and effectively stateless in Mexico as Trump desires?

[Gass3268]

Should we not take control of our borders?  Especially in this case, where radicalized Muslims want to do us harm?
Liberals always seem to be more worried about not descriminating, and not hurting feelings of various groups, than taking necessary action!

To liberals, the "necessary action" is to allow anyone in that wants to be here. They view borders as just "lines on a map" and want our country to big one giant homeless shelter.

So do free-trade big business conservatives who want cheap labor.

[RI]

Should we not take control of our borders?  Especially in this case, where radicalized Muslims want to do us harm?
Liberals always seem to be more worried about not descriminating, and not hurting feelings of various groups, than taking necessary action!

How about the Muslim population already within our borders? My Muslim buddies, American born and raised, left on a cruise to Mexico a couple of days ago. Should they be left stranded, homeless, and effectively stateless in Mexico as Trump desires?

Trump already back-pedaled on the Muslim-American citizens abroad stuff.

[Sbane]

So when will Trump call for internment camps for Muslims? Just a matter of time it seems. Maybe they can reuse Manzanar. Tule lake might provide some nice views for the Muslims.

[Trump v. Wong Kim Ark]

Two local SurveyUSA polls show that Republicans support Trump's call for a ban on Muslim immigration by a wide margin:

Sam Diego, CA
Overall: 52/48

Republicans: 71/29
Independents: 47/53
Democrats: 37/63

Conservatives: 79/21
Moderates: 39/61
Liberals: 37/63

Fresno, CA
Overall: 59/41

Republicans: 69/31
Independents: 57/43
Democrats: 48/51

Conservatives: 84/16
Moderates: 56/43
Liberals: 42/58

This is why these comments won't hurt Trump in the least in the primary.

I've spent a decent amount of time in Fresno. The results don't surprise me that much.

[Boston Bread]

Trump already back-pedaled on the Muslim-American citizens abroad stuff.

Not that it matters. They won't remain citizens for long.

[weixiaobao]

hmm, look like his polls will go up again.  Some of Trump's core supporters probably would still be okay if his statement went even further.  Which is more proof that the 2 parties in the USA kinda move farther and farther into the polar extremes.

[publicunofficial]

Kyle Kondik recently made a good point about how Trump is legitimizing views that Republican voters have probably held for years, but were socially unacceptable until Trump began leading in polls.

Trump could say "Let's kill every Muslim" and Republicans everywhere would sigh in relief about no longer having to pretend to be a decent human being. No more of this "I'm not a racist, but ..." crap.

[publicunofficial]

We've banned certain immigrant groups from entering the country before.  It's constitutional and sensible.  

Are all of these examples outside 1999 "sensible?"

I'm talking about immigrants, not refugees.

So you're in favor of Muslim refugees but not immigrants?

[IceSpear]

Kyle Kondik recently made a good point about how Trump is legitimizing views that Republican voters have probably held for years, but were socially unacceptable until Trump began leading in polls.

Trump could say "Let's kill every Muslim" and Republicans everywhere would sigh in relief about no longer having to pretend to be a decent human being. No more of this "I'm not a racist, but ..." crap.

"Well, that might go a bit too far, but drastic times call for drastic measures. Plus, it annoys the Demoncraps, so it must be good!"

[Migrant Crime]

We've banned certain immigrant groups from entering the country before.  It's constitutional and sensible.  

Are all of these examples outside 1999 "sensible?"

I'm talking about immigrants, not refugees.

So you're in favor of Muslim refugees but not immigrants?

Hypothetically, yes. Refugees are escaping a horrible situation where their lives may be in danger. Immigrants come for a number of reasons

[publicunofficial]

We've banned certain immigrant groups from entering the country before.  It's constitutional and sensible.  

Are all of these examples outside 1999 "sensible?"

I'm talking about immigrants, not refugees.

So you're in favor of Muslim refugees but not immigrants?

Hypothetically, yes. Refugees are escaping a horrible situation where their lives may be in danger. Immigrants come for a number of reasons

So you're against Muslim immigration, because Muslim immigrants could just be coming over to commit terrorist acts, but you trust refugees?

You can't have it both ways. Either you don't want Muslims to come here, or they should be allowed. You can argue about how much scrutiny they should receive, but your position makes absolutely no sense.

[Migrant Crime]

We've banned certain immigrant groups from entering the country before.  It's constitutional and sensible.  

Are all of these examples outside 1999 "sensible?"

I'm talking about immigrants, not refugees.

So you're in favor of Muslim refugees but not immigrants?

Hypothetically, yes. Refugees are escaping a horrible situation where their lives may be in danger. Immigrants come for a number of reasons

So you're against Muslim immigration, because Muslim immigrants could just be coming over to commit terrorist acts, but you trust refugees?

You can't have it both ways. Either you don't want Muslims to come here, or they should be allowed. You can argue about how much scrutiny they should receive, but your position makes absolutely no sense.

It makes perfect sense. Youre just not very bright. Immigrants and refugees are not the same thing

[publicunofficial]

We've banned certain immigrant groups from entering the country before.  It's constitutional and sensible.  

Are all of these examples outside 1999 "sensible?"

I'm talking about immigrants, not refugees.

So you're in favor of Muslim refugees but not immigrants?

Hypothetically, yes. Refugees are escaping a horrible situation where their lives may be in danger. Immigrants come for a number of reasons

So you're against Muslim immigration, because Muslim immigrants could just be coming over to commit terrorist acts, but you trust refugees?

You can't have it both ways. Either you don't want Muslims to come here, or they should be allowed. You can argue about how much scrutiny they should receive, but your position makes absolutely no sense.

It makes perfect sense. Youre just not very bright. Immigrants and refugees are not the same thing

Every argument with you is like talking to a brick wall.

[Migrant Crime]

We've banned certain immigrant groups from entering the country before.  It's constitutional and sensible.  

Are all of these examples outside 1999 "sensible?"

I'm talking about immigrants, not refugees.

So you're in favor of Muslim refugees but not immigrants?

Hypothetically, yes. Refugees are escaping a horrible situation where their lives may be in danger. Immigrants come for a number of reasons

So you're against Muslim immigration, because Muslim immigrants could just be coming over to commit terrorist acts, but you trust refugees?

You can't have it both ways. Either you don't want Muslims to come here, or they should be allowed. You can argue about how much scrutiny they should receive, but your position makes absolutely no sense.

It makes perfect sense. Youre just not very bright. Immigrants and refugees are not the same thing

Every argument with you is like talking to a brick wall.

Well, you don't have to argue with every post I make