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Yes, it will still be a contested state
 
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No, it will be written off as a blue state
 
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Sumner 1868
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« on: December 05, 2015, 06:59:58 PM »

Will it still be considered a swing state despite not giving a Republican its electoral votes in thirty-six years?
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2015, 07:02:37 PM »

depends on the margin of victory.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2015, 07:14:22 PM »

The fact that it hasn't gone Republican since a 49-state sweep 31 years ago apparently hasn't been enough, so it will probably still be so for a while, at least in the media. However, if after 2020 it hasn't gone Republican especially if the Republican wins one of those elections, it definitely shouldn't be.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2015, 07:29:47 PM »

The fact that it hasn't gone Republican since a 49-state sweep 31 years ago apparently hasn't been enough, so it will probably still be so for a while, at least in the media. However, if after 2020 it hasn't gone Republican especially if the Republican wins one of those elections, it definitely shouldn't be.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 07:48:27 PM »
« Edited: December 05, 2015, 08:34:51 PM by TarHeelDem »

It shouldn't be considered a swing state right now. Hopefully Clinton's wins in 2016 and 2020 will clear up the confusion.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2015, 08:18:25 PM »

People have short-term memories; when Scott Walker won his recall vote, Wisconsin's electoral votes were supposedly the Republicans' for the taking.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2015, 09:15:03 PM »

People have short-term memories; when Scott Walker won his recall vote, Wisconsin's electoral votes were supposedly the Republicans' for the taking.

If I recall correctly, Obama led even the Walker recall exit poll.

I think the fact that Bush came so close in 2004 is why so many aren't willing to say Wisconsin is a blue state. But Kerry winning at all emphasizes the lean is enough for Democrats to carry the state indefinitely.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2015, 10:13:32 PM »

Wisconsin is trending the Republicans way, so I don't see why it wouldn't be considered a swing state, even if Democrats win it narrowly.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2015, 10:28:30 PM »

Wisconsin is trending the Republicans way, so I don't see why it wouldn't be considered a swing state, even if Democrats win it narrowly.

It was, but I think Scott Walker's budget mess ruined that for potentially 10+ years sadly.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2015, 10:33:03 PM »

It all depends on the margin of victory relative to the popular vote margin. If Hillary wins WI by 3 and the PV by 1, I see no reason to not call it a swing state. I mean, the media also thinks that NH is a swing state, so...
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2015, 02:56:11 PM »

It will still be a swing state. Walker could win re-election in 2018, and Tammy Baldwin could lose in 2018. Wisconsin may lean Democratic in the presidential race, but statewide, it will be contested as a battleground state.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2015, 03:27:52 PM »

Wisconsin is trending the Republicans way, so I don't see why it wouldn't be considered a swing state, even if Democrats win it narrowly.

It was, but I think Scott Walker's budget mess ruined that for potentially 10+ years sadly.

10+ years is a ridiculous timeline for that. It will harm the Republicans but only as long as it takes for something else to make it into the headline and Walker not to be on the ballot. By the time 2025 rolls around people will have long forgotten about Scott Walker. It will only be a major issue in 2016 and 2018, after that something else will own the narrative.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2015, 01:00:28 AM »

Will it still be considered a swing state despite not giving a Republican its electoral votes in thirty-six years?
It hasn't voted GOP since Bush senior and they still consider it contested especially with voting trends among whites.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2015, 02:32:05 AM »

They wont win against Tammy Baldwin or the WI gov election either in 2018. It Iis considered a blue state now.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2015, 03:01:46 AM »

It's leaning Dem... not save but leaning; just as AZ leans GOP.
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2015, 07:42:21 AM »

Will it still be considered a swing state despite not giving a Republican its electoral votes in thirty-six years?
It hasn't voted GOP since Bush senior and they still consider it contested especially with voting trends among whites.

Dukakis actually won Wisconsin in 1988 :-)
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2015, 08:09:52 AM »

I still dont think the GOP will bother with WI this time. So they don't need two more losses to write it off.  All assuming Walker isn't on the ticket.
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2015, 12:18:02 PM »

Sure it will. One close election obviously means it's a swing state forever, just like Oregon.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2015, 12:21:37 PM »

Will it still be considered a swing state despite not giving a Republican its electoral votes in thirty-six years?

People on here will consider it so.  Apparently any state a Republican has lost by less than fifteen points in an election since 2000 is a tossup because muh PVI.
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2015, 04:02:06 PM »

Once again: What makes NH more competitive than WI?
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