If Trump becomes the nominee do you see any of the others campaigning for him?
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« on: December 05, 2015, 06:06:52 PM »

Yeah... I don't see any of this happening at best they will probably lukewarm endorse him then just avoid him at all cost. It will be our party's most awkward general election in our party's history.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2015, 06:37:29 PM »

Carson maybe. Most will just endorse him, maybe make a speech at the convention, and then go home and wait for election day.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2015, 07:59:22 PM »

I can see the GOP getting behind Trump for the general election on the theory that if he needs a beatdown on an issue, the GOP Congress will be able to provide it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2015, 08:07:39 PM »

I think Cruz would.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 08:17:44 PM »

Carson maybe. Most will just endorse him, maybe make a speech at the convention, and then go home and wait for election day.

Some of them probably won't endorse him (despite the pledges they're making now).  And in fact, it wouldn't shock me if there was a 3rd party run by someone in the "responsible mainstream" of the party.  Maybe even from someone who's running now, though I'm not sure who.

Incidentally, the biggest donor to Bush's Super PAC just said that if Trump is the nominee, he'll back Hillary Clinton over Trump:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/elections-2016/article48067815.html
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2015, 08:44:58 PM »

No, it won't happen.  I believe the party will never nominate Donald Trump for president.  But just to play along with the idea, if Trump were to have won the popular vote in most of the primaries and caucuses, and no other candidate was within, say, 600 delegates of a majority, I have no doubt that the party would effectively nullify the primary results, and bar the Trump delegates from the convention floor.  It would be chaos.  It could make Chicago 1968 look like a walk in the park.  And Trump would sue every Republican in sight.  I think the official GOP nominee would end up being Mitt Romney or someone like that, someone the establishment trusted to lead the free world.  Trump would sue to be listed as the GOP candidate on the ballots in all 50 states.  Maybe Romney would be listed as the National Conservative party candidate, or something like that.  Yeah, it would be a mess.
But no, they would never campaign for Trump.  They see him as an interloper, not to be trusted.
Goldwater in 1964 was totally different than this.  Goldwater was a U.S. senator, just a bit more right wing than most of the party.  They knew it would be hard to beat Johnson so soon after the Kennedy assassination so the party figured, hey, this guy wants the nomination let's give it to him and if he loses, so what.  We'll save our stronger candidates for 1968.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2015, 08:48:46 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Falconer,_Baron_Falconer_of_Thoroton
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2015, 11:25:40 PM »

No, it won't happen.  I believe the party will never nominate Donald Trump for president.  But just to play along with the idea, if Trump were to have won the popular vote in most of the primaries and caucuses, and no other candidate was within, say, 600 delegates of a majority, I have no doubt that the party would effectively nullify the primary results, and bar the Trump delegates from the convention floor.  It would be chaos.  It could make Chicago 1968 look like a walk in the park.  And Trump would sue every Republican in sight.  I think the official GOP nominee would end up being Mitt Romney or someone like that, someone the establishment trusted to lead the free world.  Trump would sue to be listed as the GOP candidate on the ballots in all 50 states.  Maybe Romney would be listed as the National Conservative party candidate, or something like that.  Yeah, it would be a mess.
But no, they would never campaign for Trump.  They see him as an interloper, not to be trusted.
Goldwater in 1964 was totally different than this.  Goldwater was a U.S. senator, just a bit more right wing than most of the party.  They knew it would be hard to beat Johnson so soon after the Kennedy assassination so the party figured, hey, this guy wants the nomination let's give it to him and if he loses, so what.  We'll save our stronger candidates for 1968.

Denying Trump the nomination when he rightfully deserves it would do nothing but harm for the republican party. It would be viewed as a direct contradiction to democracy and everyone not in the inner circle of the establishment would be against the move. Plus they'd spend millions of dollars defending themselves against an inevitable lawsuit from Trump. Even if they kept Trump off the ballot in most states, their nominee would be DOA due to the illegitimate way in which he/she was nominated. Even if the nominee says they didn't agree with the selection process, Hillary can easily retaliate by pointing out that they still accepted this "illegitimate nomination". Hillary would win by such a landslide that the house would be in real danger of flipping. And if Trump ended up on the ballot in most states, even if the GOP's "illegitimate nominee" was still listed he/she would get no more than 5% or so nationally because they would have no way to justify their nomination and Trump would get to run as the "true antithesis to a member of either party's establishment". I imagine Trump would get some conservadems to vote for him in this situation and win the election.

If Trump earns enough pledged delegates to get the nomination, the best move for the GOP is just to admit he won and hope for the best.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2015, 11:30:44 PM »

I can envision Cruz, Carson (even after the belt incident), and Huckabee actively campaigning for/with Trump. Some like Kasich will refuse to endorse him while others like Bush and Christie will issue unconvincing declarations of support.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2015, 03:45:20 PM »

Yeah... I don't see any of this happening at best they will probably lukewarm endorse him then just avoid him at all cost. It will be our party's most awkward general election in our party's history.
1964 though

Trump will do better then Goldwater obviously but better doesnt mean he won't get crushed once he is held accountable for his statements in a general election environment.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2015, 10:10:59 AM »

Trump would most likely not get nominated. On the 0.00001% chance that he wins the primaries, I could definitely see the Libertarian and Constitution Party splitting the conservative vote, causing Clinton and/or Sanders to win.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2015, 10:45:25 AM »

Trump would most likely not get nominated. On the 0.00001% chance that he wins the primaries, I could definitely see the Libertarian and Constitution Party splitting the conservative vote, causing Clinton and/or Sanders to win.

According to prediction markets; his chances are currently at 26% (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/presidential-candidates-dashboard.html). Up from 22% last week.
Thats prediction markets not actual individuals. People are just putting their money into markets and betting its not what the farmer in Iowa thinks its the political junkie or the rich guy in NYC. While I think Trump has about a 50% chance of becoming my party's nominee I wouldnt trust the prediction markets.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2015, 11:55:12 AM »

Yes, Cruz, Fiorina, Carson, Huckabee, and Santorum will endorse him and campaign for him.

Bush, Christie, Rubio, and Graham will give him lukewarm endorsements but not campaign for him.

Kasich, Paul, and Pataki won't endorse him.
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