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« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2015, 06:54:53 PM »

Second suspect either dead or in custody.
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« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2015, 06:58:39 PM »

Watching CNN. Looks like they just pulled a body out of the SUV, so at least two suspects dead.
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« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2015, 07:13:41 PM »

So this makes 355 mass shootings this year, in case no one has posted the tally yet.
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« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2015, 07:46:32 PM »

So this makes 355 mass shootings this year, in case no one has posted the tally yet.

It's scary knowing how many mass shootings have happened this year in the U.S. alone.
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« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2015, 07:47:15 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2015, 07:50:18 PM by realisticidealist »

One witness described a suspect in fleeing SUV as a "regular white dude". Hopefully we'll find out more soon.

EDIT: Two suspects dead, one unaccounted for

EDIT 2: One deceased suspect may have been female
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« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2015, 08:19:27 PM »

LA Times says it all stemmed from a dispute at the holiday party

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-up-to-20-shot-in-san-bernardino-active-shooter-sought-20151202-story.html

Remember to lock and load at all your holiday events this season
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« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2015, 08:22:58 PM »

So... pretty much confirmed that ISIS is not involved in this one at all. I would say this should serve as a lesson to certain members of this forum and the broader conservative movement, but that would just be a waste of time.
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« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2015, 08:23:41 PM »

One witness described a suspect in fleeing SUV as a "regular white dude". Hopefully we'll find out more soon.

EDIT: Two suspects dead, one unaccounted for

EDIT 2: One deceased suspect may have been female

Everyone on Twitter seems to be saying the police scanner is searching for an Arabic individual (female?), but they have been proven wrong all day, so I guess I'll just leave that here and stick with the witness for now.
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« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2015, 08:27:24 PM »

I would say this should serve as a lesson to certain members of this forum and the broader conservative movement, but that would just be a waste of time.

There were just as many people immediately jumping on the "far-right Christian terrorists" bandwagon on twitter, Reddit, etc.
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« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2015, 08:38:41 PM »

Deceased suspects confirmed as one male and one female.
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« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2015, 08:39:59 PM »

I would say this should serve as a lesson to certain members of this forum and the broader conservative movement, but that would just be a waste of time.

There were just as many people immediately jumping on the "far-right Christian terrorists" bandwagon on twitter, Reddit, etc.

Exactly. No one knows anything for sure.

I will say that the MO here, of several heavily armed suspects attacking and then fleeing into the surrounding area, reminds me a lot more of Paris and Charlie Hebdo than any recent American domestic terror attack. Probably the closest American match is the original plan of Harris and Klebold in Columbine. However, there's exceptions to every rule.
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« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2015, 08:44:52 PM »


I was thinking it had to do with a employee or more who were upset about something at their work. Like various similar situations with a student who shoots up their school, they're angry and chose to target somewhere that the source of their problems. 
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« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2015, 08:45:42 PM »

I'm not yet convinced that this is related to any type of terrorism at all, honestly.
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« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2015, 08:51:52 PM »

I'm not yet convinced that this is related to any type of terrorism at all, honestly.
I would tend to agree that is where things seem to be heading.
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« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2015, 09:10:07 PM »

I'm not yet convinced that this is related to any type of terrorism at all, honestly.
I would tend to agree that is where things seem to be heading.

I would too, except the FBI guy was being evasive saying they'd follow it wherever it went and without saying what made it sound like something was a little off. 
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« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2015, 09:15:48 PM »

Lead suspect American Citizen. Peter King has said that it is a foreign name most likely Arabic.
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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2015, 09:18:13 PM »

Lead suspect American Citizen. Peter King has said that it is a foreign name most likely Arabic.

Even if true, that doesn't inherently mean it was terrorism. However, that would explain the ambiguity we've heard from the FBI.
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« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2015, 09:24:51 PM »

MSNBC reported "Sayeed Farook" is a top suspect.
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« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2015, 09:50:32 PM »

I think they have spelled his name about 5 different ways.
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« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2015, 09:55:52 PM »

Most ridiculous media comment I've seen is a tweet from Bloomberg News, saying that the shooting took place "less than two miles from a Planned Parenthood clinic". Sane people the world over have also pointed out that a Mosque and a couple of Evangelical churches are within two miles of the shooting... so take your pick?
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« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2015, 09:59:25 PM »

Farook appears to be a health department employee. Police are searching his house now.
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« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2015, 09:59:36 PM »

Most ridiculous media comment I've seen is a tweet from Bloomberg News, saying that the shooting took place "less than two miles from a Planned Parenthood clinic". Sane people the world over have also pointed out that a Mosque and a couple of Evangelical churches are within two miles of the shooting... so take your pick?
Yeah that's egregiously stupid.
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« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2015, 10:18:43 PM »

Farook's neighbors report the Farooks had recently moved in, received an unusually large number of packages recently, and were doing lots of work in their garage late at night, but they didn't report it as they didn't want to appear racist/profiling.
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« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2015, 10:23:42 PM »

Farook's neighbors report the Farooks had recently moved in, received an unusually large number of packages recently, and were doing lots of work in their garage late at night, but they didn't report it as they didn't want to appear racist/profiling.

So it looks like the suspects have been preparing for this attack for awhile.
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« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2015, 10:24:55 PM »

Farook's neighbors report the Farooks had recently moved in, received an unusually large number of packages recently, and were doing lots of work in their garage late at night, but they didn't report it as they didn't want to appear racist/profiling.

So it looks like the suspects have been preparing for this attack for awhile.

Given the sheer amount of guns, ammunition, tactical armor, and pipe bombs involved, I think that's safe to say.
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