Kasich says Ohio won’t take refugees, mayor says city will if asked ]

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

[Admiral Kizaru]

Yes one of the Paris attackers had a fake Syrian passport, but it is quite possible that person was yet another European national traveling back from Syria. Someone like that could never get a US refugee visa. Also the refugee process takes a year of vetting. If ISIS wanted to infiltrate the US it would it would be much faster, cheaper and easier to inspire/radicalize US citizens/residents and/or bring in European citizens/residents who have been trained in Syria/Iraq (who could get into the country on student or tourist visas).

But of course the right position for any GOPer running for president now will have to be to tap into the fear and be as bellicose and jingoistic as possible. That means calls for being the most anti-refugee as possible like how Chris Christie today said he would turn away a 3-year old orphan.

Top post.

Sums up my feelings on the disgusting spectacle we've witnessed today.

[EliteLX]

Kasich isn't, never has been, and never will be a "moderate" by any stretch of the imagination.  Then again neither are 90% of the sh**tty moderate hero blue avatars on this forum.  

Refugee topic aside:

Just because they aren't a socialist doesn't mean they have to change their political views to be moderate on their political views. There are many centrists here who lean both left and right on many issues, and I'm one of them. Moderate doesn't translate to political interests that d32123 shares. So many people lately riding out the "crappy moderates" train on Atlas as if they're there to win over the left's views or the right's. Sorry.

[bobloblaw]

Future generations will look at these governors the same way we look at 1930's America for refusing to take in Jews fleeing Europe.

ahhh.....no. Jews werent planning to impose Torah law on the places they wanted to flee to. And there is no final solution to the Islamic question. Nice try though

[bobloblaw]

If the state doesn't want to accept the thousands of people, too damn bad.

Yes, it is too damn bad for the states. Not only is it unconstitutional for them to simply refuse, but also missing out on 1.) saving people, and 2.) saving people who can contribute to America's society and economy, the same way immigrants and refugees have for decades.

Middle east refugees contribute noting but violence and poverty. If they are christian ok, if they are muslim, no.

[Asian Nazi]

Kasich isn't, never has been, and never will be a "moderate" by any stretch of the imagination.  Then again neither are 90% of the sh**tty moderate hero blue avatars on this forum.  

Refugee topic aside:

Just because they aren't a socialist doesn't mean they have to change their political views to be moderate on their political views. There are many centrists here who lean both left and right on many issues, and I'm one of them. Moderate doesn't translate to political interests that d32123 shares. So many people lately riding out the "crappy moderates" train on Atlas as if they're there to win over the left's views or the right's. Sorry.

I literally don't even understand what this means.

[bobloblaw]

... No, let's let in refugees three days after one of them is involved in killing over a hundred refugees. If the government thoroughly vets them, maybe Kasich will change his mind. It's idiotic to just say "Yeah, I'm not checking your vetting process. Let's agree to let them in no matter what."

Can you imagine what would happen if he let them in with "as much warning as Bush" and several of them were involved in an attack on Columbus or Cleveland?

Innumerate idiots who don't understand how probability works, but easily fall prey to senseless fear-mongering, would get even more upset than they are already?

Senseless fear mongering

[bobloblaw]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

[bobloblaw]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

[bobloblaw]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

so its you and the King of Jordan v 1.3 billion muslims.

[Asian Nazi]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

And yet you vote for a party of bobloblaws

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

so its you and the King of Jordan v 1.3 billion muslims.

And I could say it's 2.0 billion Christians versus the Crusader

[bobloblaw]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

so its you and the King of Jordan v 1.3 billion muslims.

And I could say it's 2.0 billion Christians versus the Crusader

ooooo...ahhhhhh...the crusades 1000 years ago, which were in fact a reaction to islamic aggression.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

so its you and the King of Jordan v 1.3 billion muslims.

And I could say it's 2.0 billion Christians versus the Crusader

ooooo...ahhhhhh...the crusades 1000 years ago, which were in fact a reaction to islamic aggression.

Yet the Crusaders killed Jewish, Orthodox Christian and Muslim civilians don't test me bobloblaw. I brought up the Crusaders in your fallacy of lumping every Muslim as a terrorist or extremist, should I or other non-Christians lump all of Christendom into being full of hatred for its anti-gay, anti-abortion bigotry committed by far-right Christian zealots?

[bobloblaw]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

so its you and the King of Jordan v 1.3 billion muslims.

And I could say it's 2.0 billion Christians versus the Crusader

ooooo...ahhhhhh...the crusades 1000 years ago, which were in fact a reaction to islamic aggression.

Yet the Crusaders killed Jewish, Orthodox Christian and Muslim civilians don't test me bobloblaw.

Which is why the Orthodox didnt request Catholic help to defend Constantanople in 1453. Too bad. Imagine Turkey as a christian country today instead of Islamic dictatorship. But none the less the crusades were a reaction to islamic aggression.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

so its you and the King of Jordan v 1.3 billion muslims.

And I could say it's 2.0 billion Christians versus the Crusader

ooooo...ahhhhhh...the crusades 1000 years ago, which were in fact a reaction to islamic aggression.

Yet the Crusaders killed Jewish, Orthodox Christian and Muslim civilians don't test me bobloblaw.

Which is why the Orthodox didnt request Catholic help to defend Constantanople in 1453. Too bad. Imagine Turkey as a christian country today instead of Islamic dictatorship. But none the less the crusades were a reaction to islamic aggression.

Blame Erdogan for the mess in Turkey, let's just through Islamic in front of negative connotations, that will sure help.

[Gass3268]

Luckily these governors have no authority on refugee policy. Federal law and Supreme Court precedent states that only the President has that authority and Obama shows no sign in cowering to the racists and bigots. Once the refugees are approved (through a 12-14 month screening process involving Homeland Security, FBI, and multiple other background checks) they can live wherever they want in the United States.

[bobloblaw]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

so its you and the King of Jordan v 1.3 billion muslims.

And I could say it's 2.0 billion Christians versus the Crusader

ooooo...ahhhhhh...the crusades 1000 years ago, which were in fact a reaction to islamic aggression.

Yet the Crusaders killed Jewish, Orthodox Christian and Muslim civilians don't test me bobloblaw.

Which is why the Orthodox didnt request Catholic help to defend Constantanople in 1453. Too bad. Imagine Turkey as a christian country today instead of Islamic dictatorship. But none the less the crusades were a reaction to islamic aggression.

Blame Erdogan for the mess in Turkey, let's just through Islamic in front of negative connotations, that will sure help.

Turkey shows even the most liberal islamic state is ripe for extremist take over.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

so its you and the King of Jordan v 1.3 billion muslims.

And I could say it's 2.0 billion Christians versus the Crusader

ooooo...ahhhhhh...the crusades 1000 years ago, which were in fact a reaction to islamic aggression.

Yet the Crusaders killed Jewish, Orthodox Christian and Muslim civilians don't test me bobloblaw.

Which is why the Orthodox didnt request Catholic help to defend Constantanople in 1453. Too bad. Imagine Turkey as a christian country today instead of Islamic dictatorship. But none the less the crusades were a reaction to islamic aggression.

Blame Erdogan for the mess in Turkey, let's just through Islamic in front of negative connotations, that will sure help.

Turkey shows even the most liberal islamic state is ripe for extremist take over.

Turkey isn't liberal, Tunisia is much more liberal and they have a successful democracy going on. Turkey is conservative

[Classic Conservative]

My friends stop arguing over whether all Muslims are terrorists or not. I can tell you for a fact that the vast majority of them are good people who want a better world. One lady I know is Islamic and over the summer she worked for different humanitarian missions. There's good people and bad people in all religions, including Christianity for example the Westboro Baptist Church. All I can tell is most people are good but then there's the crazies and we have to learn the difference between good and evil.

[Kingpoleon]

Luckily these governors have no authority on refugee policy. Federal law and Supreme Court precedent states that only the President has that authority and Obama shows no sign in cowering to the racists and bigots. Once the refugees are approved (through a 12-14 month screening process involving Homeland Security, FBI, and multiple other background checks) they can live wherever they want in the United States.

http://www.ibtimes.com/isis-exploiting-refugee-crisis-europes-islamic-state-threat-requires-boosted-security-2087164

Kasich also denied he could block this.

[bobloblaw]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

but but, my religion is multiculturalism and diversity. You racist.

I am a half European half Arab religiously liberal Muslim so I literally am the definition of multicultural and diversity.

so its you and the King of Jordan v 1.3 billion muslims.

And I could say it's 2.0 billion Christians versus the Crusader

ooooo...ahhhhhh...the crusades 1000 years ago, which were in fact a reaction to islamic aggression.

Yet the Crusaders killed Jewish, Orthodox Christian and Muslim civilians don't test me bobloblaw.

Which is why the Orthodox didnt request Catholic help to defend Constantanople in 1453. Too bad. Imagine Turkey as a christian country today instead of Islamic dictatorship. But none the less the crusades were a reaction to islamic aggression.

Blame Erdogan for the mess in Turkey, let's just through Islamic in front of negative connotations, that will sure help.

Turkey shows even the most liberal islamic state is ripe for extremist take over.

Turkey isn't liberal, Tunisia is much more liberal and they have a successful democracy going on. Turkey is conservative

Turkey certainly was liberal under Turgut Ozal. It was strongly secular until the early 2000s. Now it is Iran in slow motion.

[Xing]

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

So should we let every single one of them in? How will you make sure none of them are ISIS sleeper cells?

My point is that treating them differently because they're Syrian is wrong. Should we refuse to let in all refugees from all countries?

Wonderful. Still lots of people who think that Middle Eastern/Muslim = terrorist. It's seriously messed up to blame all Syrian refugees for something that a minority group did.

terrorist = middle east muslim and occasionally pakistani or indonesian

Not the case. The definition of terrorism does not include anything about Muslims or folks from the Middle East. People are terrorists because of their actions, not their ethnicity/religion.

[Famous Mortimer]

Guys, the problems isn't refugees. To be a socialist the problem are inner city areas in Europe that act as breeding grounds for extremism. Tackle the fact that french/british/US citizens are happy to take up arms and kill.

Are you serious? Muslims and non-Muslims get the same benefits in France and the non-Muslims manage to avoid launching massive terrorists attacks.

Furthermore, even if French Muslims could be bribed with more welfare into not supporting murder and theocracy, the fact that they would require a bribe suggests a moral deficit on their part, not on the part of the government.