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Rockefeller GOP
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« on: December 03, 2015, 01:04:58 PM »

And, of course, Kennedy probably would have won states like Mississippi, Florida, and Virginia if African Americans weren't being systematically disenfranchised. 

I could be wrong about this (and please correct me if I am), but weren't Southern blacks still opposed to the Democratic Party until 1964?

I don't think they were "unopposed" after either, but they saw the national Democratic Party as a (barely) better vehicle for their interests than the national Republican Party.  In most of the Deep South, Blacks had a choice between a racist party that fought for poor people or a racist party that fought for rich people.
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 04:13:05 PM »

There was voter fraud going on in both camps in Illinois in 1960.  It is impossible to know who would have won the state in a "fair" election.

And, of course, Kennedy probably would have won states like Mississippi, Florida, and Virginia if African Americans weren't being systematically disenfranchised. 

So, in my opinion, to say that Nixon was the legitimate winner in 1960 is wrong.

You think Southern Democrats kept Blacks from voting for their party's nominee so that Eisenhower's VP could become President?
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Rockefeller GOP
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2015, 05:20:48 PM »

There was voter fraud going on in both camps in Illinois in 1960.  It is impossible to know who would have won the state in a "fair" election.

And, of course, Kennedy probably would have won states like Mississippi, Florida, and Virginia if African Americans weren't being systematically disenfranchised. 

So, in my opinion, to say that Nixon was the legitimate winner in 1960 is wrong.

You think Southern Democrats kept Blacks from voting for their party's nominee so that Eisenhower's VP could become President?

Did either of us say that?

You certainly implied Southern Blacks would have been a sure vote for Kennedy in those states.  And the ones systematically disenfranchising them were Democrats who would have clearly preferred Kennedy to Nixon in 1960.
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Rockefeller GOP
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2015, 03:47:24 PM »

And, of course, Kennedy probably would have won states like Mississippi, Florida, and Virginia if African Americans weren't being systematically disenfranchised. 

I could be wrong about this (and please correct me if I am), but weren't Southern blacks still opposed to the Democratic Party until 1964?

I don't think they were "unopposed" after either, but they saw the national Democratic Party as a (barely) better vehicle for their interests than the national Republican Party.  In most of the Deep South, Blacks had a choice between a racist party that fought for poor people or a racist party that fought for rich people.

Winthrop Rockefeller.

Is not your typical Southern Republican of the '50s and '60s.
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