2010 PA Census Redistricting Thread

[Jake]

What is the style of the Northeast? Is it urban, new suburban, old suburban?  I ask because we've been discussing it for months and I just realized that I know very little about the actual area.

[Keystone Phil]

What is the style of the Northeast? Is it urban, new suburban, old suburban?  I ask because we've been discussing it for months and I just realized that I know very little about the actual area.

The Northeast is kind of like a suburban area in some areas yet has a very urban feel to it in certain neighborhoods. Most of the houses are rowhomes or twins though there are some single houses.

[danwxman]

What is the style of the Northeast? Is it urban, new suburban, old suburban?  I ask because we've been discussing it for months and I just realized that I know very little about the actual area.

The Northeast is kind of like a suburban area in some areas yet has a very urban feel to it in certain neighborhoods. Most of the houses are rowhomes or twins though there are some single houses.

When was a lot of the housing built? It seems like a suburban area that is now "urbanizing"...would that be a good way to describe it? I can't believe I've never been to Northeast Philly...I need to visit this summer.

[bullmoose88]

From what I've seen its definitely much more urban...even when compared to the really really old bucks suburbs...even Bristol....but its not a bad area...just very dense...population wise...

but yeah you'll find a couple small early 90s (or late 80s) single homes developments around there....and perhaps one really rich neighborhood in Torresdale where the houses are huge ($2 million or more)...though if they were in my county they'd be at least 3x the price).

[J. J.]

What is the style of the Northeast? Is it urban, new suburban, old suburban?  I ask because we've been discussing it for months and I just realized that I know very little about the actual area.

The Northeast is kind of like a suburban area in some areas yet has a very urban feel to it in certain neighborhoods. Most of the houses are rowhomes or twins though there are some single houses.

When was a lot of the housing built? It seems like a suburban area that is now "urbanizing"...would that be a good way to describe it? I can't believe I've never been to Northeast Philly...I need to visit this summer.

Sections are staight out of Leave it Beaver and Father Knows Best.  Some of the area is almost rural; there are a lot of woods.

[Keystone Phil]

What is the style of the Northeast? Is it urban, new suburban, old suburban?  I ask because we've been discussing it for months and I just realized that I know very little about the actual area.

The Northeast is kind of like a suburban area in some areas yet has a very urban feel to it in certain neighborhoods. Most of the houses are rowhomes or twins though there are some single houses.

When was a lot of the housing built? It seems like a suburban area that is now "urbanizing"...would that be a good way to describe it? I can't believe I've never been to Northeast Philly...I need to visit this summer.

Sections are staight out of Leave it Beaver and Father Knows Best.  Some of the area is almost rural; there are a lot of woods.

Exactly. However, the area is made up mostly of row homes.

By the way, bullmoose, I live in Torresdale (in a row built in the mid 70s). Which rich neigborhood are you talking about? Crestmont Farm or the Eden Hall area is what I'm guessing. Some very, very nice homes in there. City Councilman Brian o'Neill lives in Crestmont while former Congressman Bob Borski lives near Eden Hall. Both are pretty much right down the street from me.

[King]

But if PA-13 is in Pittsburgh, what will happen to the fate of the PA-13 thread with 1,000,000 replies by then?

[Keystone Phil]

But if PA-13 is in Pittsburgh, what will happen to the fate of the PA-13 thread with 1,000,000 replies by then?

We will always know what PA 13 was being discussed. 

[bullmoose88]

What is the style of the Northeast? Is it urban, new suburban, old suburban?  I ask because we've been discussing it for months and I just realized that I know very little about the actual area.

The Northeast is kind of like a suburban area in some areas yet has a very urban feel to it in certain neighborhoods. Most of the houses are rowhomes or twins though there are some single houses.

When was a lot of the housing built? It seems like a suburban area that is now "urbanizing"...would that be a good way to describe it? I can't believe I've never been to Northeast Philly...I need to visit this summer.

Sections are staight out of Leave it Beaver and Father Knows Best.  Some of the area is almost rural; there are a lot of woods.

Exactly. However, the area is made up mostly of row homes.

By the way, bullmoose, I live in Torresdale (in a row built in the mid 70s). Which rich neigborhood are you talking about? Crestmont Farm or the Eden Hall area is what I'm guessing. Some very, very nice homes in there. City Councilman Brian o'Neill lives in Crestmont while former Congressman Bob Borski lives near Eden Hall. Both are pretty much right down the street from me.

I think its Crestmont Farm...a couple kids from my HS live there.

[bullmoose88]

err...grammar check...is it live or lived...I assume they still live there, but god, high school was 3 years ago...my how the time flies.

[muon2]

OK, so I'm not a PA poster. But let me play the following game. In 2010, PA is in gridlock and by some fluke adopt an IA/AR style districting system. County breaks only occur as needed.

I took the 2004 Census estimates of the PA counties and compared that to the 2000 Census counts. By applying the estimated growth rate per county, I can go for a redistricting along the lines described above.

The ideal district in PA 2010 has almost exactly 700K, if divided into 18 districts. From the estimates it's close to this:

PA 1, 2. This is Philly. Estimates are that Philla County will have 1408 K residents. Very close to 2 CDs.

PA 3, 4, 5. Montgomery, Bucks, Lehigh, and Northampton. Lehigh and Northampton need 50 K from Bucks. 100 K moves out of Motgomery to combine with the rest of Bucks.

PA 6. NE PA including Scanton and Williamsport. Bradford, Columbia, Lackawanna, Lycoming, Pike, Sullivan, Susquehanna, Tioga, Wayne, Wyoming.

PA 7. Wilke-Barre area. Carbon, Luzerne, Monroe, Schuykill.

PA 8, 9, 10. West Philly Metro. Berks, Chester, Delaware, Lancaster, Lebanon. Delaware needs 150 K from Chester. Lancaster and Lebanon need 170 K from Berks.

PA 11. Harrisburg region. Cumberland, Dauphin, Juniata, Montour, Northumberland, Perry, Snyder.

PA 12. S PA - York region. Adams, Franklin, Fulton, York.

PA 13. West Central - East Pittsburgh. Armstrong, Clarion, Clearfield, Indiana, Jefferson, Westmoreland.

PA 14, 15. Pittsburgh region. Allegheny and Butler.

PA 16. SW PA. Beaver, Bedford, Fayette, Greene, Somerset, Washington.

PA 17. N Central PA. Blair, Cambria, Cameron, Centre, Clinton, Elk, Huntingdon, McKean, Mifflin, Potter, Union.

PA 18. Erie - NE PA. Crawford, Erie, Forest, Lawrence, Mercer, Venango, Warren.

[Keystone Phil]

I think its Crestmont Farm...a couple kids from my HS live there.

Very nice area (I live right near there). Like I mentioned earlier, Philadelphia City Councilman Brian O'Neill (R) lives in there as well as a number of judges and lawyers.

[bullmoose88]

So you're near Bristol Pike (route 13), Holy Family College etc?

[Keystone Phil]

So you're near Bristol Pike (route 13), Holy Family College etc?

I don't want to get into specifics but let's just say I am very close to Holy Family and was just there to go with my parents to vote. (For anyone who wants to waste their time, you can kind of figure out where I live since I just gave out my polling place.)

[J. J.]

So you're near Bristol Pike (route 13), Holy Family College etc?

I don't want to get into specifics but let's just say I am very close to Holy Family and was just there to go with my parents to vote. (For anyone who wants to waste their time, you can kind of figure out where I live since I just gave out my polling place.)

I won't, but I'm the only person of my name listed in Phila phone book; that's why I don't give it out.  :-)

[bullmoose88]

Ah...been a while since I've been there....Theres an all girls high school right there too...my bus used to drive down there to pick up some of their students for our district...

A lot of row homes, but some singles (other than the rich areas previously described)...thats a nice area of the city...there are few other areas which I'd say are better, but not many...not many at all.

[Keystone Phil]

Ah...been a while since I've been there....Theres an all girls high school right there too...my bus used to drive down there to pick up some of their students for our district...

A lot of row homes, but some singles (other than the rich areas previously described)...thats a nice area of the city...there are few other areas which I'd say are better, but not many...not many at all.

Nazareth Academy is the girls' high school you are speaking of and I am one of the residents in those row homes. Torresdale is a very nice area. I don't know how it will be when I begin a family but if it stays the same, I would like to live here.

[bullmoose88]

Bingo.

Been a real long time.

I hope so too.

The longer the city stays (or some areas) nicer...the longer the burbs will as well...we need less sprawl.

[TeePee4Prez]

Ah...been a while since I've been there....Theres an all girls high school right there too...my bus used to drive down there to pick up some of their students for our district...

A lot of row homes, but some singles (other than the rich areas previously described)...thats a nice area of the city...there are few other areas which I'd say are better, but not many...not many at all.

Nazareth Academy is the girls' high school you are speaking of and I am one of the residents in those row homes. Torresdale is a very nice area. I don't know how it will be when I begin a family but if it stays the same, I would like to live here.

I will give you that Phil.  Torresdale/Eden Hall is a nice area.  Not sure where I'll be living but my guess is Montgomery or Bucks Counties.