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« on: October 12, 2015, 01:58:50 AM »
« edited: October 12, 2015, 08:18:55 AM by Türkisblau »

This is a sister publication to Nagas Reports




BREAKING: TALLEYRAND DEFEATS PIKACHU IN LANDSLIDE, TPP DEVASTATED, FEDS IN CHAOS



I'm your host Henry W. Türkisblau and this is a special report from Minute Maid Park here in Houston, Texas.

In a stunning rebuke to the political establishment, insurgent candidate Talleyrand has rolled over all in his path. We in Atlasia's Newsroom are here at Minute Maid Park and will switch over to Senator Elect Talleyrand's victory speech as soon as possible. With 40,000 in attendance, the scene is here is raucous and celebratory. This is one of the first times in recent political history that The People are finally getting their voices heard, and they know that the once great TPP is just not capable of that any longer.

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 04:08:29 AM »
« Edited: October 12, 2015, 08:05:36 PM by Türkisblau »

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: SENATOR NC YANKEE ON THE SPECIAL ELECTION



Türkisblau: Senator North Carolina Yankee, thank you for joining us by satellite in Atlasia's Newsroom this fine evening. First, I'd like to question you about the controversy surrounding Classic Conservative's actions over the course of the election. What do you have to say about his leaking of personal messages, supposed illegal PMs sent to make voters edit their votes cast for Talleyrand, and subsequent condemnation by Midwest Governor tmthforu94, of Civic Renewal?

NC Yankee: Thank you for having me, we do not have enough media in this game anymore and I am pleased to see it being giving a bit of a jolt once again. You and Truman deserve a great deal of credit for that.

I missed the interactions on Saturday afternoon because I was occupied with something rather important IRL, working my a## off on too little sleep.

The Federalist Party doesn't approve of illegal or underhanded tactics. Our party has been the victim of underhanded tactics more then once and they harm the game. I haven't seen any evidence to support the accusations being made of trying to get people to change their votes with the intent of invalidating them.

As for the leaking of personal messages, I know not sure what was leaked but generally there is a mixed record when it comes to doing that. When RowanBrandon leaked the PMs about Hamilton, many heralded him as a hero for exposing sock making.

Governor Tmthforu94 is a great Atlasian and I am glad he has returned after these many months. I don't doubt that Classic has made mistakes in his interactions and decisions, but if nothing illegal happened then I would hope that people give him the same chance to learn and grow from his mistakes.

Türkisblau: Senator Yankee, with all due regard, with Classic's high number of public statements along with him being a very well-known Federalist politician due to his high-profile and controversial legislation in the Pacific, his activities have largely been associated with the Federalist Party. You have stated that he may have made questionable decisions, so would you support a full investigation into his actions, and do you think that the Federalist Party should distance itself from Classic Conservative? According to tmthforu94, he did publicly post personal messages.

NC Yankee: I think justice should be served. At the same time, one of the reasons why there are two center-right parties instead of one right now is because we weren't there for each other in 2014 when really mattered and instead many preferred to take to stabbing each other in the back whilst I was without internet access and once I came back the runaway train was unstoppable. Even worse was standing by and letting accusations and attacks go unchallenged whilst a Federalist administration withered on the vine. Some of these critiques like the one about posting invalids (an action numerous trackers have done) is really a pathetic attempt to pile on using whatever is at hand to do so. I am not going to stand by and let sheer bs stand. Since he joined Classic has mostly gotten a rotten deal, his views may be controversial and he has made a lot of mistakes as a newbie, but he has been active and shown a desire to improve and reform the game.

Türkisblau: However, on the subject of Classic Conservative let me get this straight - you are backing Classic Conservative, despite prominent voices of criticism even on the right? Do you trust Classic's judgment over tmthforu94 and Simfan's? I hate to be terse, but it feels like a deflection for you to simply state that justice should be served and then degenerate into a rambling history lesson.

I do believe that one has a responsible to criticize a party member when they give your party a bad image - for Classic to hijack the Federalist Party would be a blow towards what you have worked so hard to build.

NC Yankee: It is not a deflection. If laws were broken, the party supports the law being upheld. I don't encourage or condone Classic's mistakes nor do I support them continuing. I do support him learning from his mistakes, growing and maturing from the mistakes the same way those who have criticized him were likewise given a shot at redemption. It would be a double standard to not give him the same chances others were.

Türkisblau: To also piggyback off the subject of Classic Conservative being accused of using questionable tactics to boost Pikachu's chances, what do you have to say about the fact that most of your party broke with you in voting for Pikachu? What motivations were behind their large turnout against the Federalist candidate, instead voting for the TPP candidate?

NC Yankee: The simple reason is that many of them did not regard Talleyrand has a Federalist. He is a nice guy but he has spent the better part of two years opposing, criticizing and condemning Federalists and the Federalist Party, as well as opposing it on most everything that has come up. That is why he faced expulsion and his initial responses only further alienated many in the Party from him as the proceedings progressed. At the same time there have been Federalists who have defended him and encouraged members to give him a chance to prove himself to the Party. His later answers also served him well in the expulsion proceeedings. I generally don't hold grudges, or at the very least, try to not let them dictate my actions. For these reasons, as well as the fact that he ran a better campaign, I decided to vote for Talleyrand. I like Pikachu a lot and I hope that in the future he returns and runs for office again.

Türkisblau: Let me say thank you for choosing the side of experience and action, Yankee. It is certainly a breath of fresh air coming from you.

NC Yankee: Not really, but I can see why you would think it so odd for me to be so refreshing. Tongue

Türkisblau: I believe that raps up our interview - thank you for coming on and it was a pleasure speaking to you this morning.

NC Yankee: Likewise, indeed. I enjoyed the opportunity.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 07:36:00 AM »


NC Yankee: I think justice should be served. At the same time, one of the reasons why there are two center-right parties instead of one right now is because we weren't there for each other in 2014 when really mattered and instead many preferred to take to stabbing each other in the back whilst I was without internet access and once I came back the runaway train was unstoppable.

hmmm? the two centre-right parties (cr, tpp) were never joined together. is your memory slipping, senator yankee?

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 05:09:40 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2015, 03:37:33 AM by Türkisblau »

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 05:31:47 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2015, 07:53:55 PM by Türkisblau »

It seems Turkisblau's brief foray into tabloid journalism has been so distressing that his psyche has cracked completely, and he is now interviewing his imaginary friends. Even more troublingly, he now apparently thinks he is a horse!

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I extend my condolences to Mr. Turkisblau, and wish him a speedy recovery.




More nonsense coming from the political establishment! Nelson Hanford is indeed a real person - I received his contact details from Governor Simfan.

Perhaps you should go back to the hole where you came from and increase the quality of your journalism before you call this Fair and Balanced™ program a "tabloid"  and stay out of the page for official publications! I didn't go to the Mideast Record-Courier to express my feelings towards your incompetence!
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 07:51:22 PM »

This is a very trustworthy and fair and balanced new source. Roll Eyes Also this is my new comedy source subscribed.

If you want comedy, all you have to do is look in the mirror, criminal! I want this man escorted out of the studio ASAP.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2015, 02:10:53 AM »

Ridiculous sensationalism. Why would I be shocked about the confirmation of results I came to embrace as the desired one publically at ten last night? What I am shocked about is the level of contempt that has been demonstrated today, following such levels of respect and integrity demonstrated last night on your behalf that foolishly led me to believe that I could trust you with an interview. Tongue

What was posted was only an insight as to what has been trending and breaking on social media as of late - why would you jump to it being meant as an attack? I mean no ill will, Yanks.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2015, 02:53:35 AM »
« Edited: October 14, 2015, 03:06:06 AM by Türkisblau »

SPECIAL REPORT

THE TYRANNY AT THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION



The Constitutional Convention, which has been championed as a the tool for Atlasian revival, has had some speed bumps in starting up. In fact, it took a whole 3 days for a new ballot for Presiding Officer to begin, delaying the beginning of the Convention and dimming hopes for the whole process to actually be productive. However, the delegates have begun their work, and it's discussion has been whipping up at a furious pace.

The sorry fact about the establishment's new found productivity is the fact that progress is going the opposite direction from the public's wishes.

First, let's speak briefly on the way the Constitutional Convention's sorry delegate selection.

A 48-hours STV vote is now open.

CONSERVATIVE DELEGATES (2 to be elected)

[ ] Tmthforu94 of Kansas (Civic Renewal)
[ ] ClarkKent of Connecticut (Federalist Party)

PROGRESSIVE DELEGATES (2 to be elected)

[ ] Bore of Rhode Island (Labor Party)
[ ] Evergreen of Maine (Northeast National Party)

CENTRIST DELEGATES (1 to be elected)

[ ] Ilikeverin of Minnesota (Abolitionist Party)
[ ] BMotley of Colorado (Democratic-Republican Party)
[ ] SomebodyWhoExists of Puerto Rico (Independent)
[ ] Cincinnatus of New York (The People's Party)
[ ] Pikachu of New Jersey (The People's Party)
[ ] EarlAW of Ontario (Washburnist Socialist Revolutionary Party)

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I would like someone, anyone to explain to me how such luminaries like ClarkKent and BMotley were selected to serve, while folks that have been working for ages on reform such as Ilikeverin and Cincinnatus were shut out of the process entirely? This is all beside the point seeing as it's ancient history, but all I can say is thank God that Talleyrand is in the Senate right now and cleaning the trash out!

This brings us to Confederate Lover Classic Conservative's fascistic amendment to the Constitution proposed in order to keep the Northeast in line. I bet that if his right-wing cronies were pushing for independence, that he'd have the opposite view!

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This is an Admendment.

In fact, the absolutely immature delegate who should have been locked out of the room had this to say to Northeast political leaders. I am not making this up, readers!

i object in the strongest possible way

the right to self-determination is recognised worldwide as a fundamental human right, and i can't support a constitution that utterly destroys it like this.
Agreed - it would be undemocratic to deny self-determination.
I see the KKK marching in playing Dixie and waving the Confederate flag here they are:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k-s51B66Sl4

As tmthforu94 recognizes, regional rights should obviously come first, however for some odd reason our usual champions for regional rights seem to have reversed their positions entirely. Could it be because the see the Northeast National Party and the accompanying movement a serious threat?

It surprises how individuals who have claimed to advocate for regional rights for years are now voting AGAINST regional rights on one of the most important votes related to it we have seen.

Even more surprising: This absolutely horrible proposed piece to what is supposed to be a "revitalizing" Constitution...

PASSED

AYE: 10
NAY: 9
ABSTAIN: 2

The amendment has been adopted.

In fact, it passed with a count of 10 delegates voting, but I thought that there were 25 delegates?

Yes, this Constitutional Convention is so poorly run, that the first and perhaps most important vote it will take passes and becomes a part of the proposed Constitution with only 10 delegates out of 25 supporting the provision, and on this first very important vote there were 4 delegates who didn't even bother to show up!

Re-voting and additional amendments are being proposed to counter this travesty of democracy by those who support a free society where self-determination exists, and regional rights are supported. We can only hope that they are successful, and that this Constitutional Convention can get it's act together soon.

Our nation depends on it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2015, 03:10:31 PM »

AFTERNOON REPORT WITH TMTHFORU94



Welcome to our afternoon report for Thursday, October 15th, here are today's news headlines:


"MAKE ATLASIA GREAT AGAIN" PARTY FORMED, CANDIDATES FOUND FOR MIDWEST AND PACIFIC SENATE SEATS, TALLEYRAND TAKES ACTION, VOTING ON SECESSION STILL IN PROGRESS AT CONCON


This afternoon we are joined by tmthforu94 in our studio.

Türkisblau:  Thank you for coming on the program. As a former president, current Constitutional Convention delegate, and a revitalizing force of change as Governor of the Midwest, most would agree that you have a great deal of influence in the national conversation as of late. First, I would like you to speak on the subject of Classic Conservative, whose record NC Yankee papered over entirely on this program only days ago. You are a strong voice opposing him and his activities in the ConCon, the Pacific, and during the election.

I'll cut to the point - do you believe that he should resign from all in-game posts? Secondly, why do you believe that the rest on the Atlasian right, besides Governor Simfan, have ignored what are clearly questionable actions coming from him?

tmthforu94: I want to make Atlasia great again. Obviously I know that line is borrowed from Donald Trump's campaign, but it is the truth. Atlasia has seen a rapid decline in the past year and I am committed to fixing it. Right now I am doing so by working to revitalize the Midwest and make sure our next constitution is sound.

As for Classic Conservative, I wouldn't go as far as to say he should resign, because there isn't any concrete evidence that he committed a crime. What we are seeing from him, though, and what I am disappointed that other conservatives are ignoring, is the divisive nature that he is portraying. His policy positions support oppressing individuals and he frequently instigates fights with members of the Atlasian left, even those in his own party. Ultimately he is hurting the Atlasian right, and I hope others see that before it is too late. I firmly believe that Pikachu would now be a senator if it wasn't for Classic Conservative's antics.

I know he is young, and sure, that should be factored in. But we have had many young individuals have a successful political career in Atlasia, so age shouldn't be an excuse for his behavior.

Türkisblau: Speaking of Making Atlasia Great Again, I understand that recently you've been working on that in a small scale - can you explain your recent efforts in the Midwest, as well as speak on the possible Midwest and Pacific merger?

tmthforu94: I wouldn't say it is small scale, my friend. Big things are happening in the Midwest. We have a full legislature again and already have legislation introduced to fix a few errors in the constitution as well as help the many patriot farmers in the region.

I'm proud to be a Midwesterner - the Midwest has a lot of history and tradition. Due to what is happening in Nyman now at the Constitutional Convention, I will not entertain the idea of a merge with the Pacific until after the ConCon is completed. I don't want us to waste time and energy on something that may be for naught if there is a consolidation of regions, which looks likely. I would rather spend that time fighting for the workers of our region who are battling with increased inflation and rising unemployment.

Türkisblau:  Good to hear about your work in the Midwest, as someone who has attempted to revive a region before, I understand the difficulties behind what goes into that.

Now, let's talk about the Constitutional Convention. As a voice for regional rights, I take it that you find the recent passage of a provision forbidding secession troubling. Can you speak on that subject? Are you happy with the direction that the Convention is going?

tmthforu94: I support regional rights, always have and always will. I am disappointed that some members of the convention are weak when push comes to shove on the issue. If a region wants to secede, there should be a process in place. I'm not saying I encourage secession, but it makes since to have something in place in case there is ever an attempt.

I think the Constitutional Convention has been a little confusing with so many threads, as the actions taken in one thread will have effects on other threads. I have voiced my concerns to the Presiding Officer, as have MANY others, but nothing has been done yet.

Türkisblau:  Yes, these developments at the Constitutional Convention are certainly troubling. The people of Atlasia need to know more about the current tyrannical direction it is going in.

Finally, I would like to ask about the upcoming presidential race. Have you made an endorsement of any specific candidate yet?

tmthforu94: Originally I was leaning towards Griffin, but Cris has ran a strong campaign and both sides have made excellent selections for Vice President, so I still have not made up my mind.

Ultimately, rather than looking at specific political views, I will be looking at the plan each candidate has when it comes to game reform and regional rights. I will decide which candidate is better for the good people of the Midwest and decide from there. I think both would make terrific presidents, it just comes down to which one is better for Atlasia now.

Türkisblau:  Thank you for your words, Governor. It was a pleasure speaking to you!
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2015, 05:41:39 PM »

The best interests of this nation are not well served nor is the Constitutional Convention taken in by the inflammatory language employed by Mr. Turkisblau, when he employs such ridiculous rhetoric as:

Türkisblau:  Yes, these developments at the Constitutional Convention are certainly troubling. The people of Atlasia need to know more about the current tyrannical direction it is going in.

Tyrannical direction?

This is absurd.  It is time that you ceased your pontificating and that you stepped down from your soap box.


Winfield? Asking me to get off a soapbox?

I assure you that this reporting is 100% Fair and Balanced™.
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2015, 09:16:44 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2015, 07:20:43 AM by Türkisblau »



EXCLUSIVE LEAK: AG ON A CRIS PRESIDENCY

This correspondence has just been leaked to Atlasia's Newsroom.

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Although this is obviously be biased - it does bring up an important question. Has Senator Cris shown a sufficient ability to lead and get the job done on Nyman? In the Senate he has allowed that chamber to devolve to the point where two Senators, Cassius and NewCanadaland are now being removed from their seats due to inactivity.

As Presiding Officer of the Constitutional Convention, there has been significant criticism, even among admirers of his presidential campaign. Tmthforu94 stated the following just today on this program:

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We complain about inaction on President bore's part. The question now is: Has Cris demonstrated to us that he is able to reverse that course?

Update as of 10:25 EST Adam Griffin has provided the following quote to Atlasia's Newsroom:

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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2015, 04:30:13 PM »

SPECIAL REPORT

An Insider's Look: Voices from Inside the Constitutional Convention

Note: this report is much delayed, some comments may be outdated and/or already addressed.

"Essentially, I'd like to express my complete annoyance at the behavior of the so called "secessionists", sending amendment after amendment and causing girdlock just because they didn't get what they wanted in the first vote. If anything, acting like that does not help the Constitutional Convention at all, especially when it's clear seccession does not work nor does it have a concrete purpose in Atlasia."
-a devoted Unionist

"We need 4 regions, not 3."
-Anonymous

"I feel that the convention was at a rocky start, but we are still working through it, and I still have hope it will be a success. I am a little chagrined at the failing of my bill on regions, as I feel it was a sensible compromise. Especially for those who were against my amendment, who then had no alternative of their own. But you win some, you lose some. I will be proposing new amendments soon, that I feel will help get this convention going. "
-NeverAgain

"I should have provided more context. There is definitely a need to crush the concept of spamming amendments just because the idea is unpopular within the convention; this is on the verge of being abused right now and somebody has to put a stop to it. I'm not going to submit 5 different renditions of an amendment that I'd like to see in there just because they keep failing.

We also need a way to violently and forcibly remove from the premises anyone who is disrupting the process in an illegitimate fashion. For once, I might be amenable to the court holding people in contempt who are just there to cause a ruckus, but that's probably not legal (...or is it!?).

There are too many threads open at the moment; it is difficult to follow anything. I think engagement is lower because of that. We need to reign that in and make sure that no more than 2 or 3 subjects are on the table at any given time. The other threads could be locked until a future date/once all of this is resolved.

Some executive action needs to take place from the leader; I've always been of the persuasion that if law/by-laws/etc doesn't explicitly say that you can't do something, then you can do it."
-President-elect Adam Griffin

"There are too many things going on at once - threads are starting to run together a bit and it's hard to figure out what exactly is going on. People will start losing interest as it becomes more convoluted. We need to start making big decisions - this whole thing should be done by the end of October, and I don't think we are ANYWHERE close."
-Anonymous

"Right now it feels like there is no progress being made. We're voting on the same amendment over and over and whenever is presiding over the convention isn't using their power to block amendments dealing with the same issue. It's very inefficient and frustrating. "
-Anonymous

"Currently under the most discussion is the right to secede from Atlasia, right now we have those in favor of allowing it, and then those dead set against it. It's somewhat split in slight favor of those against the right to secede. I am one of those dissenters in favor of the right to secede, I believe it is important to understand that it is the right of citizens and groups to leave Atlasia, as that is what this country was founded on. While I would be perfectly fine with making it difficult to secede, I believe it is important that we maintain this right. That is the most divisive issue going on right now. Other issues like consolidation are much more easily figured out, and can often be solved fairly simply. But as this is determining a right, it is a very tough issue to put through. So that is where we are at right now in the convention."
-BMotley

"Failure to allow succession for regions will stop and, eventually, bring down the Convention. Failure to allow the democratic right of people to have self determination would show that the right wingers are scared of succession occurring.

The Northeast is set to vote on independence from Atlasia - failure to recognise the democratic result will bring the country down. The Atlasian Government will not be able to operate in the Northeast - should a majority of people want independence. It could lead to a unilateral declaration of independence and that would be to the hindrance of both Atlasia and the Northeast.

The actions of the right wingers in the Convention is moving people towards the idea of independence; the Northeast will punish the them for their actions."
-Anonymous

"I think that the Convention could be worse, but could be better. One thing I'm glad about is that I didn't want to be presiding officer--remember, everyone and their regional speaker was nominating me, and I kind of stepped aside for Cris or Truman. Now, I don't think Cris has done a bad job (dammit, Jim, he's a presiding officer, not a miracle worker!) but lots of people are pointing their criticism towards him. Glad I dodged that bullet!

Now, another thing is that the votes seem too...political. The vote on whether or not to confirm the unalienable right to self-determination, for example, seems to be mirroring the Northeastern Independence Movement too much.

The future of Atlasia is at stake. I understand that we don't want it to take too long, but the idea that we need to rush through everything is an alarming one."
-Leinad


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