Powers of federal govt (Senate) and of regional govts. (Debating)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

67% nationwide and 80% of the Senate would be fine with me (with 100% leading to an immediate ratification vote, otherwise it would occur with the elections as Tmth suggested).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I prefer we don't include everything under the sun, this time around. A lot more should be left to the regions than was before.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I completely agree. Less detail and high threshold is a better approach.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I would support that amendment.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I completely agree. Less detail and high threshold is a better approach.

This. The Constitution should provide a framework, not a blueprint.

I think devolution is also the answer to discourage separatism and ensure that local candidates have real issues to decide and vote on. I still favor a federal system though, there is nothing incompatible with the two or necessitates that devolution requires a confederation system.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We have gotten consolidation, we appear to have gotten bicamerialism. Unless we get devolution, this will fail at the regional level when it comes to activity and participation.

What people need to consider with regards to the recently failed JCL amendment, is that some of the most contentious regional issues that attracted most of the attention and interest dealt with social policy. We tend to forget that this is a game and there is desire to kill it wherever it grows with regards to any remotely socially conservative agenda. This happened in 2013 when Gass pushed for amendment to the Constitution that basically outlawed most all restrictions on abortion, in response to the Mideast Abortion statute that passed that year. There were two competative regional elections and a high turnout referendum that ultimately tossed out the said legislation by two votes, and this in a region that at the time was 50% Federalist, and had been dominated by Conservatives for five years.

There is this desire to coddle the regions, to take away any and all responsibility, and I use that word intentionally as opposed to rights or powers. If regions have no responsibilities, their officeholders and the votes cast in elections for such, are pointless endeavors. By leaving important matters in their hands, is how you force competition. If a region passes a statute you don't like, the answer in the best interest of the game is, run for Governor or legislature. Th answer most certainly is not to remove that issue from field by the having the feds make decisions for them, so they don't have too.

Devolution is a must or consolidation is a busted flush.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I support JCL's proposal as well.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

     My concern with Truman's proposal is the redundancy involved. Setting a minimum wage is covered by the commerce clause IIRC; not including it as an explicit power of the federal government isn't going to stop us from having one.

And the Fed as well would be covered under the financial regulation clause if not the currency one.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Does anybody (who is not opposed to the concept as a matter of principle) think that we need to add something to this that clarifies the ability for the government to regulate regional legislative seat allocation based on its population? Currently, it's in the document, but...

Probaby so I would imagine.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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