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Lincoln Republican
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« on: October 09, 2015, 10:35:37 am »
« edited: October 09, 2015, 10:41:06 am by Lincoln Republican »

In my view, a bicameral legislature is not practical for Atlasia at this time.

I do not believe we should be adding another layer of government to consider and debate legislation, unless increased activity warrants such a move.

If we do go to three regions, then we should have a Senate of nine, in order to have three Senators per region.  

I realize there may be some who would prefer two Senators per region, for a Senate of six.

Both of these options should be considered.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2015, 05:52:46 pm »

As I have stated previously, bicameralism is a complete non starter for me.

I do not believe it is practical, and it would simply bog down the legislative process needlessly.

Besides, we could not support it with the required personnel at this time.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2015, 01:02:51 pm »

Wait, why would we want a bicameral system?  We're already sustaining the unsustainable regions under this system; I don't know why we need another level of government.

Obviously, we don't.
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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2015, 07:59:45 pm »

Unicameralism
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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2015, 04:54:02 pm »

Aye
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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2015, 05:06:00 pm »

We must never, NEVER, take away from the people their right to decide who is elected to represent them in ANY office.

Legislatures elect  Senators?

Have some around here lost their minds?

And I am in no way convinced that we need yet another legislative body to complicate things further.   
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2015, 08:11:07 pm »

I go on record as being vehemently opposed to members of Regional Legislatures electing representatives of the people.

Only the people should be electing those who will represent them in government.

ALL eligible voters in Atlasia should be allowed to participate in the election of those who govern us, not just members of Regional Legislatures.

The Seventeenth Amendment dates from 1913 by the way.  This is 2015.   
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2015, 11:52:59 am »

The democratic right of the people to choose who governs them at any level must never be discarded.

The clock of democracy can never be turned back to the old days when Senators were chosen by party cliques sitting in a legislature.

What is wrong with letting the people, all eligible voters in Atlasia, or all eligible voters in a region, decide who is to govern them?

The people's right to choose who is to govern  is the most fundamental right of free people everywhere, the right to vote.

Taking the vote away from the people is a horrible idea.  I cannot imagine anyone who genuinely loves democracy ever supporting such an archaic practice as having representatives of the people elected by a legislature clique.  
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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2015, 10:53:16 pm »

Option A
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2015, 10:24:40 pm »

1.   9
2.   7
3.  11
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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2015, 10:40:38 pm »

No

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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015, 10:59:20 pm »

I agree, clearly we do not want to be using parliamentary titles, but we should not be using Latin terms either.

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2015, 12:25:25 pm »

We could consider the title Executive Senator.

It is different from anything used in the real life United States Senate and would be distinctively Atlasian.   
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2015, 05:50:29 pm »

Aye
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2016, 10:57:57 pm »

Aye
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