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« on: October 08, 2015, 11:40:46 am »

Three, I think, would be the absolute most we can sustain.

And for the record, I am fully against the last "secession" proposal. To enact something like that would be to invite the dissolution of Atlasia within five minutes, not to mention seccession itself is beyond pointless in the context of this game.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2015, 07:57:32 pm »

The CARCA map is fine with me.

Look, population changes are going to happen anyway and half the population is going to be purged from the rolls if they fail to vote in October (I know, I'm exaggerating, but I want to drive the point that current population numbers offer no guarantee moving forward), so we really should stop thinking of the old regions as they were, otherwise the whole consolidation process might end up in the ludicrous mentality of "But I want my region to the one to survive, screw the rest!".
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2015, 03:26:27 pm »

Aye.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 01:46:05 pm »

We can spend weeks arguing about this "right to secede" and whether it should exist based on real life precedents, but I have to ask, what is the point of seccession itself?

It certainly doesn't add a productive dynamic to the game, unless we call the increasingly ludicrous "lol, I'm rebelling against Nyman and creating my own country" stunts a useful part of the game. It doesn't make sense either in hypothetical terms to dismember the country and blow up the union, not to mention this "right to secede" is far from a usual norm across the world these days.

Why, then, are secession mechanisms (which seem awfully easy to overcome) something we need?
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 02:28:39 pm »

I think it's the 100th or so that I hear independence from a region to be something that would "revitalise" the game, and I fail to see convincing evidence supporting that. If anything, it's the "muh secession" mentality that seems a bit out of touch considering there is little point for the union to be broken in a whim.

And so I ask again, why do we need seccession? What do we gain from it?
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2015, 06:24:27 am »

I object, for the love of the gods, just how many amendments on seccession are we going to vote on?
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2015, 12:52:43 pm »

Hear hear on Truman's well put arguments against seccession.

And Nay on the amendment.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2015, 04:29:43 pm »

Nay.
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2015, 05:05:16 pm »

Nay.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2015, 02:55:04 pm »

For the last time, No!
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2015, 11:45:14 am »

I move to establish a 3 region map using the map that was most preferred by a popular vote a few months ago. It makes the most sense and is aesthetically pleasing to my eye and it should be to yours too.

Seconded. The map had broad support, and the least thing we need in weeks of debate on "no, that state should be on my region!"
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2015, 10:52:36 am »

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2015, 06:02:11 pm »

Aye.
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