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« Reply #500 on: November 12, 2015, 03:02:48 pm »

     Aye. In reality, it is not a decision to be undertaken lightly.
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« Reply #501 on: November 12, 2015, 10:16:04 pm »

With a vote of 11 Ayes, 3 Nays, 1 Abstention, and 10 delegates not voting, Truman's amendment has been adopted.
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« Reply #502 on: November 13, 2015, 10:52:19 am »

Just to confirm - after final Constitution has been approved by the delegates, does it go to a public vote on the proposed constitution?
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« Reply #503 on: November 13, 2015, 04:33:00 pm »
« Edited: November 14, 2015, 04:51:08 pm by Senator Truman »

As promised, we will now proceed with a two-stage principle vote on Regional nomenclature. Delegates have 72 hours to suggest names for the proposed Regions; at the expiration of that time, a 48-hour principle vote will be held to select the best proposal.

For the sake of simplicity (and so that I know which name goes with which Region), I ask that you submit your proposals in this format:


Region A (blue)Sad _____________________
Region B (green)Sad _____________________
Region C (red)Sad _____________________




Just to confirm - after final Constitution has been approved by the delegates, does it go to a public vote on the proposed constitution?

Correct. Just like Constitutional Amendments, the new Constitution will need to be ratified by 4 of the 5 Regions.
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« Reply #504 on: November 13, 2015, 05:39:58 pm »

Region A (blue)Sad West
Region B (green)Sad South
Region C (red)Sad Northeast

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« Reply #505 on: November 13, 2015, 06:03:07 pm »


Region A (blue)Sad Fremont_____________________
Region B (green)Sad Rayburn_____________________
Region C (red)Sad Franklin_____________________




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« Reply #506 on: November 14, 2015, 05:25:28 am »

So what are the rules on letting the regions decide? Will that be determined seperately? Because there are clear disagreements in this Convention about that. This ConCon was called to make this nation better that before, and this is something that would make Atlasia worse that before, even if just slightly.

If it needs to be officially proposed, than I hereby offically propose to make it where the regions can decide their own name.
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« Reply #507 on: November 14, 2015, 08:59:31 am »

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Region B (green)Sad South_____________________
Region C (red)Sad Northeast_____________________

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« Reply #508 on: November 14, 2015, 01:39:52 pm »

So what are the rules on letting the regions decide? Will that be determined seperately? Because there are clear disagreements in this Convention about that. This ConCon was called to make this nation better that before, and this is something that would make Atlasia worse that before, even if just slightly.

If it needs to be officially proposed, than I hereby offically propose to make it where the regions can decide their own name.

     Indeed, I am not comfortable with regional names being defined in the Constitution. They have historically been a matter that was decided internally within the regions, and lots of debate and activity has resulted from this choice being devolved to the regions. I believe that they should continue to have that choice.
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« Reply #509 on: November 14, 2015, 01:44:54 pm »

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Region B (green)Sad South_____________________
Region C (red)Sad Northeast_____________________


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« Reply #510 on: November 14, 2015, 11:44:14 pm »

Truman hasn't opened the voting yet, right? Why is everyone suggesting the same things over and over again?

Anyway, I suggest to the Presiding Officer that there be two votes: one for the starting names, and another for whether the regions are allowed to change the names or not.

And while I'm at it, this is a good a time to bring it up as any: I presume the three new regions will have constitutional conventions of their own, right? Are there any details set up for that? If not, that should be defined in some way.
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« Reply #511 on: November 15, 2015, 12:08:31 pm »

Truman hasn't opened the voting yet, right? Why is everyone suggesting the same things over and over again?

Anyway, I suggest to the Presiding Officer that there be two votes: one for the starting names, and another for whether the regions are allowed to change the names or not.

And while I'm at it, this is a good a time to bring it up as any: I presume the three new regions will have constitutional conventions of their own, right? Are there any details set up for that? If not, that should be defined in some way.
He's opened up for name suggestions - I think. However, it would be much easier to just hold the vote on the region names now.
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« Reply #512 on: November 15, 2015, 03:09:45 pm »

Region A (blue): _______McGovern______________
Region B (green): ______Kefauver_______________
Region C (red): ________Kennedy_____________
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« Reply #513 on: November 16, 2015, 02:45:06 am »


Region A (blue)Sad Wolfen
Region B (green)Sad Griffin
Region C (red)Sad Hamilton
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« Reply #514 on: November 16, 2015, 03:40:30 am »


Region A (blue)Sad bgwah
Region B (green)Sad Duke
Region C (red)Sad Scott


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« Reply #515 on: November 16, 2015, 10:46:26 pm »

Since it is obvious that this convention is not going to adopt the sensible names  suggested by Truman and myself, why not simply go with the obvious West, South, North.

I say North because not all of the states in the red area are actually Northeast states.  North is actually more representative of the red region than is Northeast.

In the interest of unity, I ask my fellow delegates to get behind the names of West, South, North, and let us get on with other matters.

West, South, North should not be objectionable or controversial.

I change my vote to West, South, North.   

Region A (blue)SadWest_________________
Region B (green)Sad South_____________________
Region C (red)Sad North_____________________




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« Reply #516 on: November 16, 2015, 11:06:30 pm »


Sorry, those don't have a mnemonic device! Cheesy
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« Reply #517 on: November 17, 2015, 03:34:21 am »

I do agree with North as being superior to Northeast. However, I must insist that the the right of the regions to change their names be preserved.
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« Reply #518 on: November 17, 2015, 08:35:05 am »

I do agree with North as being superior to Northeast. However, I must insist that the the right of the regions to change their names be preserved.

Agreed on both accounts. It's silly to call Wisconsin and Illinois the "Northeast," but it's even sillier to keep these regions from changing their names.
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« Reply #519 on: November 17, 2015, 11:10:03 am »

I do agree with North as being superior to Northeast. However, I must insist that the the right of the regions to change their names be preserved.

Agreed on both accounts. It's silly to call Wisconsin and Illinois the "Northeast," but it's even sillier to keep these regions from changing their names.
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« Reply #520 on: November 17, 2015, 04:02:45 pm »
« Edited: November 17, 2015, 04:04:23 pm by Senator Truman »

A principle vote is now open on the question of Regional nomenclature. Please rank the following proposals according to your preference. Voting will last 48 hours or until all delegates have voted.

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« Reply #521 on: November 17, 2015, 04:05:30 pm »

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« Reply #522 on: November 17, 2015, 06:58:01 pm »
« Edited: November 17, 2015, 11:21:46 pm by Assemblyman JCL and the geologist »

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« Reply #523 on: November 17, 2015, 08:43:25 pm »

[1] West, South, Northeast
[   ] Fremont, Rayburn, Franklin
[   ] McGovern, Kefauver, Kennedy
[   ] Wolfen, Griffin, Hamilton
[   ] Bgwah, Duke, Scott
[2] West, South, North
[3] Let the Regions name themselves
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« Reply #524 on: November 17, 2015, 08:58:21 pm »


[] West, South, Northeast
[2] Fremont, Rayburn, Franklin
[   ] McGovern, Kefauver, Kennedy
[   ] Wolfen, Griffin, Hamilton
[   ] Bgwah, Duke, Scott
[3] West, South, North
[1] Let the Regions name themselves

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