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« on: September 24, 2015, 11:19:11 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2015, 11:21:03 AM »

Pope Francis (Catholic)
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2015, 12:00:18 PM »
« Edited: September 24, 2015, 02:03:59 PM by The Year Summer Ended In July »

The Dalai Lama said he'd be fine with his successor being a woman so him.

But I'd vote for someone like Rachel Held Evans over both.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2015, 12:02:04 PM »

Dalai Lama.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2015, 01:31:48 PM »

The Dalai Lama said he'd be fine with his predecessor being a woman so him.

Thubten Gyatso might have been a woman?
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2015, 02:03:34 PM »

Heh. Grammatical error corrected.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2015, 02:04:27 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2015, 02:06:11 PM »

Thomas S. Monson. Tongue

Seriously though, while I am a big fan of the Pope, I'm fairly sure the Dalai Lama is slightly better on a few social issues. Plus, the poor guy can't even live in his own nation/region anymore. The Pope has his own nation.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2015, 02:44:45 PM »

I'm sure they're both very nice people, but as religious leaders, neither. I refuse to accept any higher Earthly authority, and I am not Catholic or Buddhist.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2015, 03:12:55 PM »

Of these two?

While I respect much about the Dalai Lama and sympathize with his plight, I have to give it to Pope Francis considering what he's had to fix, and considering what he could use his estate to do as many Popes have in the past.

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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2015, 04:10:53 PM »

Pope Francis (normal)
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2015, 07:52:44 PM »

Both are FFs, but I guess Pope Francis, mostly because he has used his global fame to advocate a wider array of issues (not that I can blame the Dalai Lama for focusing on the issue that obviously matters to him most), and because (as much as it pains me to admit) I probably have more in common with a Catholic ethos than with a Buddist one.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2015, 08:20:51 PM »

Thomas S. Monson. Tongue

Seriously though, while I am a big fan of the Pope, I'm fairly sure the Dalai Lama is slightly better on a few social issues. Plus, the poor guy can't even live in his own nation/region anymore. The Pope has his own nation.

Eh, the difference between the Pope and the Dalai Lama's situation is a rounding error IMO Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2015, 08:31:09 PM »

Thomas S. Monson. Tongue

Seriously though, while I am a big fan of the Pope, I'm fairly sure the Dalai Lama is slightly better on a few social issues. Plus, the poor guy can't even live in his own nation/region anymore. The Pope has his own nation.

Eh, the difference between the Pope and the Dalai Lama's situation is a rounding error IMO Tongue

Yeah, I guess Mussolini was just bad with numbers. Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2015, 10:28:13 PM »

There's actually some really unsavory stuff about the Dalai Lama that doesn't get talked about much, although I'd say I still have a more or less favorable opinion of him overall. What's unsavory about Pope Francis gets much more open discussion. Voted Francis.
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2015, 10:42:33 PM »

There's actually some really unsavory stuff about the Dalai Lama that doesn't get talked about much

What in particular?
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2015, 11:59:18 PM »

They are both awesomely amazing and inspirational.

I'll give the edge to Pope Francis at this moment, though this could be bias due to recent events.
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2015, 12:26:42 AM »

There's actually some really unsavory stuff about the Dalai Lama that doesn't get talked about much, although I'd say I still have a more or less favorable opinion of him overall. What's unsavory about Pope Francis gets much more open discussion. Voted Francis.

If it's about the Lama rule of Tibet, I give the current Dalai Lama a pass on this since he was what, a teenager when the PRC invaded?

If its after that, then please, go on.
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2015, 01:25:40 AM »

I like the Dalai Lama more.

But I suppose the positive effect Pope Francis is going to have on the world (since the Catholic Church has more than one billion members and Francis is trying to pull it slowly but steadily into the 21st century) will be larger than the Dalai Lama's.
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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2015, 02:01:27 AM »

I totally thought this thread's title was "Pope Francis vs. Dalek" from the main page.

Dalai Lama, although I think Francis would be much more effective at day-to-day governing.
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2015, 02:57:26 AM »

Dalai Lama, as a hindu, I also have a connection with buddha and buddhism, while not following the religion.
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2015, 11:56:00 AM »

The Lama
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2015, 01:12:22 PM »

They're both awful. Pope Francis can say all the nice things about the poor that he wants, but that doesn't change the fact that he heads up an organization that has done nothing but steal from the poor and murder those who would try and stop that thievery since it came into existence.
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2015, 01:49:44 PM »

Well the worst I can think about this Lama is the unfortunate CIA funding, but he basically seems to view that as a massive personal mistake.

Pope Francis however has a ... pretty disturbing past in Argentina.
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2015, 03:16:31 PM »

There's actually some really unsavory stuff about the Dalai Lama that doesn't get talked about much

What in particular?

The Dalai Lama is these days mostly fine in his capacity as a political leader, but in his capacity as a religious leader he is significantly more authoritarian than is sometimes realized, and has actively suppressed theological and devotional movements within Tibetan Buddhism that differ too markedly from his own.
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