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« Reply #225 on: December 13, 2015, 03:20:39 PM »

Centre-Val de Loire (86% counted):

34.5% Philippe VIGIER (Right)
34.2% François BONNEAU (Left)
31.3% Philippe LOISEAU (FN)
This one should switch, as Tours is still out.
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« Reply #226 on: December 13, 2015, 03:22:31 PM »

Centre-Val de Loire (86% counted):

34.5% Philippe VIGIER (Right)
34.2% François BONNEAU (Left)
31.3% Philippe LOISEAU (FN)
This one should switch, as Tours is still out.

The right lead is down to 365 votes (0.04%)
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« Reply #227 on: December 13, 2015, 03:30:59 PM »

Contrary to other regions where the FN loses as more votes are counted, the young/hot LePen seems to climb higher as more votes are counted - now close to breaking 49%.
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« Reply #228 on: December 13, 2015, 03:34:12 PM »

Things went from bleak in the first round to hilarious in the second Tongue
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« Reply #229 on: December 13, 2015, 03:37:39 PM »
« Edited: December 13, 2015, 03:39:51 PM by Andrea »

95% counted Bourgogne Franche Comté
PS 34.3 FN 32.93 Rep 32.76

98% counted Normandie
Rep 36.49 PS 35.91 FN 27.6

91% counted Centre Val de Loire
PS 34.66 Rep 34.5 FN 30.84
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« Reply #230 on: December 13, 2015, 03:41:27 PM »

The national vote meanwhile is moving closer to:

40% Right (+13%)
30% Left (incl. other left lists) (+5%)
30% FN (+2%)

... with 75% of the votes counted.
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« Reply #231 on: December 13, 2015, 03:43:31 PM »

Morin has won Normandie 36.43 to 36,08%
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« Reply #232 on: December 13, 2015, 03:44:48 PM »

Pretty interesting that the Socialists will win about half of the regions, while the combined French Right (Republicans+FN) got 70% of the national vote ...
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« Reply #233 on: December 13, 2015, 04:04:53 PM »

Bourgogne & co final

PS 34.68
Rep 32.89
FN 32.44


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« Reply #234 on: December 13, 2015, 05:40:22 PM »

  Is the FN failure to win that surprising?  They invariably due poorly in run-off elections.  I can remember reading about how the FN was about to win maybe a dozen seats in the 1994 National Assembly elections and laughing about how ridiculous that assertion was.  The FN needs proportional representation like a fish needs water.
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« Reply #235 on: December 13, 2015, 05:47:53 PM »

  Is the FN failure to win that surprising?  They invariably due poorly in run-off elections.  I can remember reading about how the FN was about to win maybe a dozen seats in the 1994 National Assembly elections and laughing about how ridiculous that assertion was.  The FN needs proportional representation like a fish needs water.
It's not that surprising, no. Except to novices in the matter of politics and elections.

They were however 26,000 votes, on 1.2 million, close to winning Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, as three-tier runoffs are a better deal for them. Plus, regional elections are actually proportional, just with a 25% of seats bonus for the FPTP winner of the runoff.

Still, Panzergirl Marine losing nearly 58-42 in Nord-Pas-de-Calais-Picardie, a hell hole if you want one in terms of FN vote, ensures us that in no way can she win the presidential runoff in 18 months, at all, ever, which is... well, something.
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« Reply #236 on: December 13, 2015, 06:25:03 PM »

Looks like there were some FN tactical voting for Center-Right in Île-de-France.
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« Reply #237 on: December 13, 2015, 06:31:49 PM »

  Is the FN failure to win that surprising?  They invariably due poorly in run-off elections.  I can remember reading about how the FN was about to win maybe a dozen seats in the 1994 National Assembly elections and laughing about how ridiculous that assertion was. 

I thought they were favored to eek out narrow victories in PACA/NPDC (but nowhere else). Regional powers in France are relatively weak and this is a lot different than a high-stakes national presidential election. Voting for the FN in the former does not mean electing Marine Le Pen as President.
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« Reply #238 on: December 13, 2015, 07:13:33 PM »

Looks like there were some FN tactical voting for Center-Right in Île-de-France.
It's especially impressive in the chic bourgeois arrondissements of Paris (6-7-8-16). FN loses 2,000 of their 4,800 first-round votes in the 16th arrondissement. Upper class bourgeois used the FN vote in the first round to tell les Républicains they wanted a true radical right-wing, and they came back in herds in the runoff.
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« Reply #239 on: December 13, 2015, 07:59:41 PM »

Stolen from Twitter:

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« Reply #240 on: December 13, 2015, 08:59:08 PM »

Yours is incomplete. This one is final. Well at least for the mainland.

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« Reply #241 on: December 13, 2015, 09:43:50 PM »

Not extremely surprising, except perhaps the scale of some FN defeats. Anybody who has studied French elections at a more than cursory level could have told you that; unfortunately, journalists covering French elections are mostly idiots who have bought in to the trash pop analysis of the FN/French electoral politics (which is scarily prevalent in this very thread).

I like the results in Corsica. It's nice to see the slimy old leftist and rightist dynasties kicked out for a change.
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« Reply #242 on: December 14, 2015, 02:50:41 AM »

Well, I'll try to be more precise when all the results are in (which isn't the case), but it's only the right that has gained from a better turnout (just see some rough sums on my blog http://sondages2017.wordpress.com/)

Of course, that doesn't mean that every new voter voted for the right, but that combining better turnout and vote transfers between the 2 rounds is benefiting only the right.

That confirms FN has mostly gained votes from the right in the first right, compared with departmental elections (March '15) and municipal elections ('14), due to the terrorist attacks.
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« Reply #243 on: December 14, 2015, 04:39:15 AM »

What's happening in Guyane, Reunion etc?
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« Reply #244 on: December 14, 2015, 05:50:21 AM »



They are bringing the votes by steamboat.
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« Reply #245 on: December 14, 2015, 11:32:36 PM »

The Ministry has results by constituency and canton for the first round available on the government's open data website, albeit in a very hard to manoeuvre Excel file which takes lots of patience and time to work with. I put together a leading party by constituency map, and I hope to do some vote strength map for the largest parties.


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« Reply #246 on: December 15, 2015, 03:14:08 PM »


Guyane and Martinique held elections, but they were elections to 'assemblies' rather than regional councils, since both of them are now 'collectivité territoriale uniques' (single/unique territorial collectivities), that is a single level merging the former regional councils and general councils. Incidentally, Corse is also moving towards this status by 2018, which means that there will be early regional elections on the island sometime before then.

Guyane

Rodolphe Alexandre (DVG) 42.34% > 54.55%
Alain Tien-Long (DVG) 30.24 > 45.45%
Chantal Berthelot (PSG) 8.49%
Line Létard (Walwari) 7.1%

Fabien Canavy (MDES) 5.71%
Rémy Louis Budoc (LR-UDI) 3.08%
Muriel Icaré Nourel (DVD) 1.59%
Jean-Marie Taubira (DVG) 0.97%
Sylvio Létard (Reg) 0.48%

abst: 57.4% >53.4%

Incumbent president Rodolphe Alexandre (DVG) was reelected with 54.6% against 45.4% for Alain Tien-Liong (DVG), the president of the general council. Rodolphe Alexandre, the former mayor of Cayenne (2008-2010), had been elected to the regional presidency in 2010 as the UMP candidate (defeating Christiane Taubira), but generally lacks any clear partisan or ideological anchors (this is overseas French politics, after all) and his majority includes factions of both the left and right. This year, Alexandre was supported by the national PS, not to be confused with the Guyanese Socialist Party (PSG), led by Antoine Karam (former president of the CR and now senator), which had its own candidate in the first round, Chantal Berthelot, one of Guyane's two deputies. Alain Tien-Liong was a member of the MDES, a 'separatist' party, but that party rejected his alliance strategy and ran their own candidate. The LR-UDI had their own candidate, a nobody, but convicted felon Léon Bertrand, the main figure of the right in Guyana, supported Tien-Liong. The Walwari, which is Christiane Taubira's party, had their own candidate (Line Létard), and Taubira was in 11th spot on the list for the Cayenne section.

Martinique

Serge Letchimy (PPM-PS-BPM-PCM-MPF)* 38.96%
Alfred Marie-Jeanne (MIM-RDM-Palima-PRM) 30.28%
Yan Monplaisir (LR-MoDem) 14.32%
Marcellin Nadeau (Modemas) 6.34%
Nathalie Jos (DVG) 3.21%
Joseph Virassamy (DVD) 2.05%
Ghislaine Joachim-Arnaud (CO-LO) 2.04%
Philippe Petit (UDI) 1.51%
Daniel Gromat (EXG) 1.29%

Alfred Marie-Jeanne (MIM-RDM-Palima-PRM + LR-MoDem) 54.14%
Serge Letchimy (PPM-PS-BPM-PCM-MPF)* 45.86%

abst: 58.8% > 47.6%

A very hotly contested race for the first Martinique assembly and executive council, between the incumbent president of the regional council Serge Letchimy (Martinican Progressive Party, PPM, Aimé Césaire's old party and a left-wing autonomist group) and the deputy/former president of the CR Alfred Marie-Jeanne of the separatist-but-not-really-separatist Martinican Independence Movement (MIM). Letchimy (mayor of Fort-de-France, the PPM's stronghold) had defeated Alfred Marie-Jeanne, then the two-term incumbent, in the 2010 regional elections. Alfred Marie-Jeanne's first round coalition included the MIM's other traditional allies of late, notably the RDM of former senator and former president of the CG Claude Lise (a PPM dissident), which led the list in the north section. Yan Monplaisir, a moderate-ish figure, united most of the weak right (the right has been a minor third force in regional politics for some 20 years now). There was also another regionalist list led by Marcellin Nadeau and the 'separatist' Modemas. After the first round, there was an historic (and somewhat unnatural) alliance between Marie-Jeanne (the 'separatist' left) and Monplaisir (the moderate right), on a vague promise of change; given that the MIM is considered to be on the far-left in French politics because its two deputies sit with the Communists in the GDR group in Paris, the alliance between them and the local right was widely interpreted by metro observers as very odd. Nevertheless, the alliance was successful, and Marie-Jeanne defeated Letchimy in the runoff by a considerable margin.

Guadeloupe

Ary Chalus (GUSR-DVG-DVD) 43.55% > 57.42%
Victorin Lurel (PS-PPDG-Verts)* 41.09% > 42.48%
Laurent Bernier (LR-UDI) 4.49%
Mélina Seymour (DVD) 3.18%
Alain Plaisir (DVG) 1.85%
Henri Yoyotte (DVD) 1.58%
Jean-Marie Nomertin (CO) 1.42%
Stéphan Viennet (FN) 1.4%
Mona Cadoce (PCG) 0.92%
Marie-Christine Mirre-Quidal (UPLG) 0.5%

Famously, Guadeloupe had been the only region to be won by the first round in 2010 (or, for that matter, the only region to be won by the first round since two-round regional elections exist), with the landslide reelection of Victorin Lurel (PS), who later became the overseas minister in the Ayrault governments (which made him the most famous overseas politician in metro France). In 2014, Lurel's ally was defeated in his stronghold of Vieux-Habitants in the municipal elections, Lurel's first defeat in 17 years, and he was subsequently dumped from cabinet by Manuel Valls, and 'returned' to Guadeloupe. His two-year absence from Guadeloupe, his stint as a minister in Paris and his close association with the unpopular national executive and PS have likely hurt him quite a bit. In the first round, Lurel ended up behind Ary Chalus, député-maire of Baie-Mahault, associated with a small moderate centre-left party (Guadeloupe unie, socialisme et réalités, GUSR) and sitting in the RRDP group in Paris. Chalus led a composite 'change' alliance of the moderate left and factions of the right (even if the LR-UDI had their own candidate, a general councillor). Marie-Luce Penchard, the daughter of Lucette Michaux-Chevry - longtime strongwoman/crook of the local right (three-term president of the CR from 1992 to 2004) - former overseas minister in the Fillon government (where she was absolutely horrible) and current mayor of Basse-Terre (her mother's stronghold), was second on Chalus' list. In the second round, Chalus built on his lead and won by a large margin. Lurel was defeated even in his personal stronghold of Vieux-Habitants, lost by a lot in Les Abymes (the largest city, governed by PPDG député-maire Éric Jalton).

La Réunion

Didier Robert (LR-UDI)* 40.36% > 52.69%
Huguette Bello (PLR-PS-EELV-DVG) 23.8% > 47.31%
Thierry Robert (MoDem/LPA-DVG) 20.32%
Patrick Lebreton (PCR-PS diss.) 7.12%
Joseph Grondin (FN) 2.39%
Jean-Hugues Ratenon (DVG) 1.69%
Mathias Payet (Oth) 1.47%
René-Paul Victoria (DVD) 1.02%
Aniel Boyer (Nasion Rénioné-Reg) 0.52%
Jean-Yves Payet (LO) 0.48%
David Appadoo (Oth) 0.48%
Jean-Jack Morel (DLF) 0.37%

abst: 55.6% > 44.7%

In 2010, La Réunion had been gained by the right counter-cyclically, with Didier Robert (UMP député-maire of Le Tampon at the time) defeating two-term incumbent Paul Vergès (Reunionese Communist Party, PCR), who has held an elected office for 60 years (making him the longest-serving politician in France, one year ahead of Panzerdaddy) in a triangulaire with the PS. Didier Robert's reelection alliance included Nassimah Dindar (UDI), president of the CG on second place on his list. He faced a divided opposition field in the first round. Huguette Bello, a four-term deputy and former mayor of Saint-Paul (2008-2014), who quit the PCR in 2012 but was nonetheless reelected to her National Assembly seat as a dissident candidate by a huge landslide in the legislative elections; she was supported officially by the PS and her own movement, something called 'Pour La Réunion'. Elected mayor of Saint-Paul in 2008, she lost her reelection bid to the UMP in 2014. PS député-maire of Saint-Joseph Patrick Lebreton ran as a PS dissident, with the official support of the PCR; since Vergès' defeat in 2010 and Huguette Bello's dissidence in 2012, the PCR has lost a lot of its former strength in local politics, and did particularly badly in the departmental elections there earlier this year. MoDem député-maire of Saint-Leu Thierry Robert (sitting in the RRDP group), a loudmouth type, also ran. Finally, René-Paul Victoria, a former right-wing deputy and mayor of Saint-Denis (defeated in 2008 and 2014), ran a dissident list, but his political career seems to be dying. In the first round, Didier Robert led by a wide margin against the divided opposition, but Bello, somewhat unexpectedly, sealed an anti-Robert alliance with her two other major rivals (Thierry Robert, Patrick Lebreton) to run a common list in the second round. This alliance had a theoretical majority on first round numbers (51.2%), but imperfect transfers and the impact of a 10+% increase in turnout meant that it ended up narrowly defeated. The anti-Robert alliance won the main towns of their candidates or parties - Saint-Leu, Saint-Joseph, the old PCR/PLR stronghold of Le Port, Saint-Benoît, but was defeated in the three largest towns - Saint-Denis, Saint-Paul, Saint-Pierre.
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« Reply #247 on: December 15, 2015, 08:07:20 PM »
« Edited: December 18, 2015, 01:00:00 PM by Sibboleth »

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« Reply #248 on: December 16, 2015, 09:58:03 AM »

Al, if I may, I suggest you make a map of the percentage of votes lost by the FN between both rounds in IdF, or even Petite couronne, and then we can post it next to a map of a wealth indicator of some sort (GDP per capita, rental prices) and have a good laugh.
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« Reply #249 on: December 16, 2015, 11:36:54 AM »
« Edited: December 16, 2015, 11:39:26 AM by Hash »

Al, if I may, I suggest you make a map of the percentage of votes lost by the FN between both rounds in IdF, or even Petite couronne, and then we can post it next to a map of a wealth indicator of some sort (GDP per capita, rental prices) and have a good laugh.

Unfortunately, the correlation between income and FN change in Ile-de-France is quasi-nonexistent: the RSQ value is 0.02, the correlation coefficient is -0.13 (and no different for the Petite Couronne).

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