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Question: What is (realistic) best case for GOP Hispanic vote in 2016?
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45%+
 
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40-44% (Bush 04)
 
#3
35-39% (Bush 00)
 
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30-34% (McCain 08)
 
#5
25-29% (Romney 12)
 
#6
20-24% (Dole 96)
 
#7
19% or less
 
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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2015, 02:57:51 AM »

Again, I thought the myth that Rubio would get 40% is a fantasy-he's out of step with Cubans, and that's suppose to be his prime dynamic. It's not just about immigration reform, it's about welfare, education, the minimum wage and a whole host of other issues
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2015, 03:35:54 AM »

The GOP have done well up until Dubya 2004 vote, because of NAFTa, partnership with Mexican Prez Fox, PRI. But, during administration of Obama, it switched to Citizenship for illegals, along with min wage, have put together a black and brown coalition, along the CO, NV, Pa, track, allows pragmatic Dems like Bill, Hillary, Obama to get elected.
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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2015, 12:28:12 PM »
« Edited: August 20, 2015, 12:33:14 PM by hopper »

The GOP have done well up until Dubya 2004 vote, because of NAFTa, partnership with Mexican Prez Fox, PRI. But, during administration of Obama, it switched to Citizenship for illegals, along with min wage, have put together a black and brown coalition, along the CO, NV, Pa, track, allows pragmatic Dems like Bill, Hillary, Obama to get elected.
Obama is a pragmatist? He is as much as a pragmatist as Ted Cruz would be as president. Hillary has been moving left just to capture the Obama coalition. To be fair, would she govern like a leftist that if she was President? Maybe, maybe not. Yes Bill Clinton was a pragmatist after his party got whipped in the 1994 Mid-Term Elections.
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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2015, 12:32:40 PM »

And to answer the OP's question, under 25% -the GOP will reach new lows with Donald Trump's views on immigration resonating so strongly with the average Republican that even Jeb Bush is trying to ape him.  
To be fair  a candidate like Trump comes around once in a blue moon. I mean yeah Mitt Romney did use "self-deport" rhetoric but he wasn't an angry candidate like Trump is now.
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2015, 12:42:12 PM »

Republicans should not concern themselves with the Hispanic vote.

Pandering to people who don't like you is worthless, if Republicans improve their white vote share by a small margin, they'll win.

This is the entire point of the #cuckservative hashtag. Pandering to those who hate you and abandoning your base has gotten Republicans sh**t so far, they just need a slight increase in the white vote and they're fine.

In 1924 the majority of blacks voted for Calvin Coolidge, who would be considered a radical right-wing extremist today.  40 years later less than 10% of black voters votes for the GOP ticket.  the way people vote changes and people with darker skin can be conservatives too.  And that hashtag represents what is wrong with much of conservatism today.  If we can't make limited government appeal to minorities, conservatism has no future in America.

This is why the Republican party needs to be destroyed.

"Make limited government appeal to minorities"

You really do not get it, they need and want handouts, they will not vote for a reduction in those handouts.

Classic cuckservative mindset. Go give books on Austrian economics to poor people in the ghetto, then you will win!

They voted for limited government during the late 19th and early 20th century.  Republicans still got about a third of the black vote until they decided that it was more important to get the white southern vote and actively alienated blacks.
No it was because Barry Goldwater in 1964 decided Civil Rights for Blacks was a "States Rights Issue" and not an issue for the Federal Government to solve. Goldwater was for Civil Rights  for Blacks though. The Black Vote was shifting towards the Dems anyway as far as back as the 1932 Presidential Election though(FDR vs Hoover.) I do think though the Goldwater stance on Civil Rights dramatically reduced the GOP's Black Voter Base to nothing for the next 50 years or alot more than it should have.
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« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2015, 12:57:36 PM »

I would say 15-20% with Trump on the ballot. Latino's totally dislike Trump.
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« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2015, 01:06:27 PM »

I wonder if George W. Bush would have been better served pushing for immigration reform in 2005 immediately after his re-election rather than trying to partially privatize Social Security.  Would there have been a better likelihood of it passing then instead of in 2007 when he actually did get around to it?  With the White House and Congress under Republican control, the GOP would have gotten all the credit.
No it wouldn't have made a dimes worth of difference had Bush W. would have try to pass immigration reform in 2005 rather than in 2007. Conservative Talk Radio would have put a stop to Immigration Reform in 2005 just like it did in 2007(mostly Rush Limbaugh back then from my understanding.) The Coulter, Ingraham, and Levin(Mark not Uval) wing of the party probably had as much power in the party either in 2005 and 2007 that they have now too.
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