Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread

[Classic Conservative]

Coming soon to a country near you:

Christian refugees murdered by Muslim migrants for praying.

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You really are a disgusting human being

Well he is right we are basically lifting who Somali villages out of Somalia into the U.S. This madness must stop. I stand with God and his people and values.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

Coming soon to a country near you:

Christian refugees murdered by Muslim migrants for praying.

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You really are a disgusting human being

Yeah, I'm a real piece of trash for posting an article describing an event that happened.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

No, you're copy and pasting an unsubstantiated story that sounds familiar to many.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

No, you're copy and pasting an unsubstantiated story that sounds familiar to many.

It does sound familiar, doesn't it?

[Tender Branson]

Meanwhile, delegations from Hungary and Bulgaria have visited Israel to study their high-tech border fence, which they might apply against the refugees ...

[Tender Branson]

During the night, Chancellors Faymann and Merkel announced that the thousands of migrants who are marching on Hungarian highways to Austria, will be picked up with 60 buses close to the border and transferred to Austria and Germany. Austria has already sent the buses and 3.000 migrants have been brought to Vienna and Burgenland last night:



"Aufgrund der heutigen Notlage an der ungarischen Grenze stimmen Österreich und Deutschland in diesem Fall einer Weiterreise der Flüchtlinge in ihre Länder zu".

"Because of the current emergency situation on the Hungarian border, the governments of Austria and Germany have allowed the migrants to continue their travel into our countries." - joint statement by Faymann and Merkel.

[The Last Northerner]

US pressured to take 65,000 refugees

Seems a bit low in the grand scheme of things though.

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Put as many as fit comfortably in Detroit. It'll seem like a paradise to them.

[dead0man]

No, you're copy and pasting an unsubstantiated story that sounds familiar to many.

What makes you think it's unsubstantiated?  It did happen, in April.  There are many stories on it.  BBC, CNN, others.  More recently, a couple was murdered in Sicily, but it was likely a robbery gone wrong ('cause that's better somehow) and a refugee in Maine was recently murdered by his fellow refugees for having the audacity to be a Christian.

Perhaps we're horrible people for bringing it up.  I'm sure it's nothing and once everybody gets where they want to go, tensions will calm down and you won't keep seeing stories like this.  Or maybe if we do, it will be because Europeans kept the refugees from integrating with society, but surely the children of the refugees will be more integrated and less likely to do horrible things in the name of their religion.  That's worked well with the ones already in Europe right?  The second and third generations are much calmer than their father's, yes?

[Famous Mortimer]

How have Europeans kept immigrants from integrating? Immigrants have kept themselves from integrating.

[Beezer]

And Budapest train station is full again...won't be long before the next march gets underway.

[DavidB.]

No, you're copy and pasting an unsubstantiated story that sounds familiar to many.

What makes you think it's unsubstantiated?  It did happen, in April.  There are many stories on it.  BBC, CNN, others.  More recently, a couple was murdered in Sicily, but it was likely a robbery gone wrong ('cause that's better somehow) and a refugee in Maine was recently murdered by his fellow refugees for having the audacity to be a Christian.

Perhaps we're horrible people for bringing it up.  I'm sure it's nothing and once everybody gets where they want to go, tensions will calm down and you won't keep seeing stories like this.  Or maybe if we do, it will be because Europeans kept the refugees from integrating with society, but surely the children of the refugees will be more integrated and less likely to do horrible things in the name of their religion.  That's worked well with the ones already in Europe right?  The second and third generations are much calmer than their father's, yes?

Nailed it.

I thought this NYT article was interesting: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/04/world/europe/europe-refugee-distribution.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0.

I'm not really down with the fact that the Netherlands is the country that takes in most asylum seekers after Sweden, Germany, and Italy (and presumably Austria): this is just disproportional. At the same time, I can only commend Eastern European countries for their sensible approach.

[Tender Branson]

10.000 migrants are expected here today.

6.500 have already arrived and many of them already went on to Germany.

It is estimated that there are still around 40.000-50.000 in Hungary waiting to come and of course we know that Macedonia has 3.000-5.000 crossing their borders every day, so this won't end soon.

[dead0man]

Why would you think it would end?  I don't understand, you think letting a bunch in will stop the flood?  If drowning by the thousands doesn't stop them, opening the gates certainly won't either.

[Tender Branson]

Why would you think it would end?  I don't understand, you think letting a bunch in will stop the flood?  If drowning by the thousands doesn't stop them, opening the gates certainly won't either.

I didn't say it will end. On the contrary: With the people now coming in in droves and the governments letting them in, those who are here will call their relatives in the Middle-East and even more will come. This is only the beginning. We are at the start of an invasion.

[DavidB.]

While Hungary is trying to block migrants from entering the EU, Germany is encouraging everyone to try it. Can't Merkel just send airplanes to Syria already to pick up these people?

[Helsinkian]

Last year 3,600 asylum seekers arrived in Finland. The estimate for this year is up to 30,000 asylum seekers. That's an eightfold increase to the previous year. The flood gates are open, and Finland is set to become the new Sweden.

In a populist move to gather political points among those naive enough to support the wave of asylum seekers (and perhaps to deliberately annoy his coalition partner, the Finns Party), our Prime Minister Juha Sipilä (Centre Party) has decided to offer his own house in Kempele, Northern Finland, as an accomodation for circa 20 asylum seekers.

With the news of this spreading internationally, I can only guess that his decision will lead to an influx of thousands more.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/pm_sipila_pledges_oulu_home_to_refugees/8282824

[Helsinkian]

This is the end of Europe as we know it. Get ready to say goodbye to the continent of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. In 60 years or so Europe, save for its eastern fringes, will be what Syria is today.

[Tender Branson]

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Yeah, a 21-year old computer operator is definitely the person who should apply for asylum in Central Europe, coming from "war-torn" Lahore, Pakistan ...

Guy would probably be better off somewhere in India ...

[DavidB.]

Last year 3,600 asylum seekers arrived in Finland. The estimate for this year is up to 30,000 asylum seekers. That's an eightfold increase to the previous year. The flood gates are open, and Finland is set to become the new Sweden.

In a populist move to gather political points among those naive enough to support the wave of asylum seekers (and perhaps to deliberately annoy his coalition partner, the Finns Party), our Prime Minister Juha Sipilä (Centre Party) has decided to offer his own house in Kempele, Northern Finland, as an accomodation for circa 20 asylum seekers.

With the news of this spreading internationally, I can only guess that his decision will lead to an influx of thousands more.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/pm_sipila_pledges_oulu_home_to_refugees/8282824

I am amazed by Finland doing this, the Nordic country that could have saved itself. Why don't politicians see what's happening to Sweden? I'd surely feel f**ked if I would have voted for the Finns Party.

[Helsinkian]

I am amazed by Finland doing this, the Nordic country that could have saved itself. Why don't politicians see what's happening to Sweden? I'd surely feel f**ked if I would have voted for the Finns Party.

Most Finnish politicans have always naively looked up to Sweden. When proposing new legislation in any issue, it has often been enough of a justification to say that "Sweden already has a similar law".

The voters of the Finns Party certainly don't like this, but unfortunately the party's leader, Timo Soini, is an egotist who puts his own career ahead of the party and the country: now that he's achieved his dream of becoming a cabinet minister, he's not going to pull his party from the coalition. He'll probably resign from active politics in a few years, after completing his term as minister, and honestly I'm not sure he cares what happens to the party after him.

[Tender Branson]

Last year 3,600 asylum seekers arrived in Finland. The estimate for this year is up to 30,000 asylum seekers. That's an eightfold increase to the previous year. The flood gates are open, and Finland is set to become the new Sweden.

In a populist move to gather political points among those naive enough to support the wave of asylum seekers (and perhaps to deliberately annoy his coalition partner, the Finns Party), our Prime Minister Juha Sipilä (Centre Party) has decided to offer his own house in Kempele, Northern Finland, as an accomodation for circa 20 asylum seekers.

With the news of this spreading internationally, I can only guess that his decision will lead to an influx of thousands more.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/pm_sipila_pledges_oulu_home_to_refugees/8282824

I am amazed by Finland doing this, the Nordic country that could have saved itself. Why don't politicians see what's happening to Sweden? I'd surely feel f**ked if I would have voted for the Finns Party.

Don't worry, they are seeing it. But they are leading Europe into the abyss with their eyes wide open. In their quest to transform Europe into an impoverished wasteland like Syria and Africa ...

[Simfan34]

Okay, that's quite enough you guys.

[DavidB.]

Didn't know that Soini was such an egotistical guy. Not that I'm really surprised, he's not the first new-right leader to be like that.

Anyhow, I'll start filming the new hit series "Finland Is The New Sweden" already. Car bombs, rape, and gays being beaten up are involved. Coming to your neighborhood soon! Stay tuned, don't leave this channel!

This is all so sad.

Don't worry, they are seeing it. But they are leading Europe into the abyss with their eyes wide open. In their quest to transform Europe into an impoverished wasteland like Syria and Africa ...

Unfortunately, you are right on the money.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Oh wow. I... um... oh wow. Consider taking a valium or something...