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« on: August 15, 2015, 01:54:37 AM »

I say yes.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2015, 03:08:38 AM »

Absolutely.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2015, 06:39:16 AM »

I would give this title to either Kasich or Christie. At least, they're the "lesser evils" in the GOP field.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2015, 06:44:13 AM »

Competent how? Trump is running a clinic on damage control and manipulating the media. Still can't say he is the most competent until he releases (relatively) sensible policy papers.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2015, 06:50:08 AM »

In terms of experience in running a HUGE organization, in terms of executive experience, in terms of knowledge of organizations, in terms of important doors being open to him, in terms of knowledge of the vast array of issues surrounding government regulation of business, the plusses and minuses, Trump is hands down over the competition.  In terms of experience of finding advisors, listening to them when he lacks experience in a field, and holding them accountable when they fail, Trump is, again, hands down over his opposition.

When you look at some of these candidates (Rubio, Cruz, Graham, even Christie), they come off as Management Trainees waiting for their first appointment.  That's why many of them seem more like VP material.

Trump, BTW, is WAY more qualified than HRC and Sanders.  Only Biden approaches his level of qualification, but it's a far different type of qualification.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2015, 07:36:38 AM »

4 bankruptcies. Enough said.
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2015, 07:42:18 AM »
« Edited: August 15, 2015, 07:47:32 AM by Torie »

The most competent at what? Being POTUS HuhHuh? So far, almost every policy suggestion he has come up with of which I am aware is at once superficial and facially ludicrous. All of them. Channeling Al Gore for the moment, Trump is the epitome of a risky scheme. And nobody knows what he would really do, since he doesn't really believe in anything, and what he says he would do, is so insane, that in the end, I doubt he would really do it, or be allowed to do it, even if he wanted to. It's all just red meat to generate buzz.
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2015, 08:42:19 AM »

Competent how? Entertainment? Absolutely.

Best resume for the job? Kasich.
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2015, 09:10:18 AM »

Competent how? Entertainment? Absolutely.

Best resume for the job? Kasich.

Jeb Bush
- Successful Businessman
- Florida Secretary of Commerce
- Charter School Founder
- Governor of Florida

John Kasich
- Career politician
- Talk show host
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2015, 09:17:38 AM »

In terms of experience in running a HUGE organization, in terms of executive experience, in terms of knowledge of organizations, in terms of important doors being open to him, in terms of knowledge of the vast array of issues surrounding government regulation of business, the plusses and minuses, Trump is hands down over the competition.  In terms of experience of finding advisors, listening to them when he lacks experience in a field, and holding them accountable when they fail, Trump is, again, hands down over his opposition.

When you look at some of these candidates (Rubio, Cruz, Graham, even Christie), they come off as Management Trainees waiting for their first appointment.  That's why many of them seem more like VP material.

Trump, BTW, is WAY more qualified than HRC and Sanders.  Only Biden approaches his level of qualification, but it's a far different type of qualification.

This is very true. This might be old news, but did anyone see this?

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/632314680321679360
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2015, 10:30:32 AM »

In terms of experience in running a HUGE organization, in terms of executive experience, in terms of knowledge of organizations, in terms of important doors being open to him, in terms of knowledge of the vast array of issues surrounding government regulation of business, the plusses and minuses, Trump is hands down over the competition.  In terms of experience of finding advisors, listening to them when he lacks experience in a field, and holding them accountable when they fail, Trump is, again, hands down over his opposition.

When you look at some of these candidates (Rubio, Cruz, Graham, even Christie), they come off as Management Trainees waiting for their first appointment.  That's why many of them seem more like VP material.

Trump, BTW, is WAY more qualified than HRC and Sanders.  Only Biden approaches his level of qualification, but it's a far different type of qualification.

This is very true. This might be old news, but did anyone see this?

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/632314680321679360

Trump doesn't listen to logic or reason, he won't be putting out any proposals.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2015, 11:21:59 AM »

He is, at least when it comes running a primary campaign.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2015, 12:19:17 PM »

He won't get the Latino vote, and Blks dont like him either. However, he hasn't made policy decisions that polarized the electric like Bushes, Christies, or Walkers.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2015, 12:20:45 PM »

In terms of experience in running a HUGE organization, in terms of executive experience, in terms of knowledge of organizations, in terms of important doors being open to him, in terms of knowledge of the vast array of issues surrounding government regulation of business, the plusses and minuses, Trump is hands down over the competition.  In terms of experience of finding advisors, listening to them when he lacks experience in a field, and holding them accountable when they fail, Trump is, again, hands down over his opposition.

When you look at some of these candidates (Rubio, Cruz, Graham, even Christie), they come off as Management Trainees waiting for their first appointment.  That's why many of them seem more like VP material.

Trump, BTW, is WAY more qualified than HRC and Sanders.  Only Biden approaches his level of qualification, but it's a far different type of qualification.

This is very true. This might be old news, but did anyone see this?


Trump doesn't listen to logic or reason, he won't be putting out any proposals.

Everyone said the same thing about filing with the FEC, disclosing his finances, and running in the first place. By this point, at least as far as his campaign is concerned, it's safe to assume Trump will actually do what he says he'll do.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2015, 01:38:43 PM »

Competent how? Entertainment? Absolutely.

Best resume for the job? Kasich.
Jeb Bush
- Successful Businessman
- Florida Secretary of Commerce
- Charter School Founder
- Governor of Florida

John Kasich
- Successful businessman
- Governor of Ohio
- Balancer of the Federal Budget
- 18-year deficit hawk
- 18 years on the Armed Services Committee
- Career politician
- Talk show host

Ahahahahahahaha! You're funny! You listed every little thing Bush did, and then summed up Kasich's record with a derogatory tone of "career politician". He's not a Washington insider like Bush, at least. As for being a career politician, maybe we need one after having "Washington outsiders", which apparently is a good thing, since 1977.
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2015, 01:48:44 PM »

Bush's business "success" has been marginal at best. Just a few years ago he was scrambling to make enough money to support his personal expenses for a campaign, as he wouldn't be working for 2-3 years. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2015, 02:50:09 PM »

Competent how? Entertainment? Absolutely.

Best resume for the job? Kasich.
Jeb Bush
- Successful Businessman
- Florida Secretary of Commerce
- Charter School Founder
- Governor of Florida

John Kasich
- Successful businessman
- Governor of Ohio
- Balancer of the Federal Budget
- 18-year deficit hawk
- 18 years on the Armed Services Committee
- Career politician
- Talk show host

Ahahahahahahaha! You're funny! You listed every little thing Bush did, and then summed up Kasich's record with a derogatory tone of "career politician". He's not a Washington insider like Bush, at least. As for being a career politician, maybe we need one after having "Washington outsiders", which apparently is a good thing, since 1977.

There is something to being a "career politician".  It helps to know how Congress really works and work within that framework to achieve.  Most Presidents who have tried to go over the head of Congress "directly to the people" have met with varying degrees of failure, from Woodrow Wilson to Obama.

I hate to say it, but I grow to be a grudging admirer of Richard Nixon in many ways.  Not for Watergate (where he screwed himself for reasons known only to God), but for the shrewd way he handled the Congress and got what he wanted.

Nixon actively sought an "ideological majority", which meant that he wanted to elect a Congress that would support his Supreme Court appointments and back him on his foreign policy initiatives, including his handling of the Vietnam War.  And he basically got it.  The way he got it was impressive; he NEVER attacked conservative Democrats who were OK on his Vietnam policies.  As for moderate and liberal Republicans, he RARELY criticized or went after them if they maintained a partisan Republican posture and did not "make a virtue out of (opposing him)".  Sen. Charles Goodell (R-NY) was an exception, but Nixon NEVER went after Jack Javits, Clifford Case, Ed Brooke, George Aiken, or Hiram Fong.  This is how Nixon got his war policy through, while getting through a number of important domestic political items; there was almost always a consensus for his plan.  Nixon was shaky in the head and turned to alcohol at the end, but his view of how to actually BE President and get things done was a view that some guys running in both parties could learn from.
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