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OAM
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« on: February 05, 2012, 10:41:36 PM »

Al Gore wins in 2000 following two terms of Jerry Brown, from the list I recently posted.

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 05:08:29 PM »

Based on some recent thoughts from one of my classes dealing with the Populist movement.

EVs are 244-100-100, so a Rep Victory, though the PV favors the Dems.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 07:35:05 PM »

Played president forever 2008 for nostalgia earlier today and got a very interesting result for Clinton vs McCain (starting from primaries).  With a third party split the reps only got 100.  Here's a more realistic version, though.



374-164

PV 54-46
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 04:06:01 PM »

Fairly certain this has been done before, but my take on a Huey Long survives scenario.  Here he runs on his own party ticket in 1936 as a statement, with little fear that the republicans could win the election even with the split in the dems.  Didn't think up a catchy name for the new party, sorry.



Dem 315
Rep 99
Ind 117
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 07:26:55 PM »

I'd say possible, but only in a very very specific set of circumstances.  The Dem candidate's homestate would have to be Texas, and they'd have to be one hell of a candidate as well as on the conservative end of the party, probably with in-state regional politics coming into play just right.  To compensate, half of the Rep ticket is probably a New England conservative.  While MD has been mentioned, WA is another anomaly that's hard to explain.  Careful candidate selection indeed.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 01:55:13 PM »

Yeah, if you don't mind, here's my take on the scenario.  Granted, it's basically handwaved that Huckabee is suddenly in.  NHI probably had more backstory to his map.



Obama:  431
Romney:  71
Huckabee:  36
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2012, 09:44:58 PM »
« Edited: November 22, 2012, 09:47:11 PM by OAM »

Based on a comment I saw on a news site (typically a terrible source of inspiration, but eh).  Here's 2016, both with and without a GOP civil war.



Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/John Hickenlooper (D-CO) - 362 EV/56.6% PV
Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) - 176 EV/42.9% PV



Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/John Hickenlooper (D-CO) - 353 EV/47.7% PV
Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) - 134 EV/35.5% PV
Marco Rubio (I-FL)/Chris Christie (I-NJ) - 51 EV/15.7% PV
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2012, 01:07:16 PM »

The maps for my recent post in the president list thread.  I'll be posting them in sets of four or so over today.

1948



Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) - 48.0% PV - 266 EV
Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Albin W. Barkley (D-KY) - 45.8% PV - 237 EV
J. Strom Thurmond (SR-SC/Fielding Wright (SR-MS) - 1.9% PV - 28 EV

1952



Dwight D. Eisenhower (D-NY)/Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) - 57.1% PV - 494 EV
Thomas E. Dewey(R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) 42.2% PV - 37 EV

1956



Dwight D. Eisenhower (D-NY)/Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) - 52.6% PV - 348 EV
Robert Taft (R-OH)/Richard Nixon (R-CA) 46.9% PV - 183 EV

1960



Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R-MA) - 53.8% PV - 362 EV
Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/John F. Kennedy (D-MA) - 46.1% PV - 175 EV
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2012, 02:26:05 PM »

1964



Pat Brown (D-CA)/Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY) - 54.3% PV - 396 EV
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr (R-MA) - 43.0% PV - 142 EV

1968



Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R-MA)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) - 45.0% PV - 387 EV
Pat Brown (D-CA)/Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY) - 39.7% PV - 84 EV
George Wallace (A-AL)/Curtis LeMay (A-CA) - 15.1% PV - 67 EV

1972



Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R-MA)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) - 55.7% PV - 464 EV
Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 44.1% PV - 74 EV

1976



Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Bob Dole (R-KS) - 50.2% PV - 275 EV
Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)/Jimmy Carter (D-GA) - 48.8% PV - 263 EV
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2012, 04:22:15 PM »

1980



Robert Byrd (D-WV)/Birch Bayh (D-IN) - 52.8% PV - 385 EV
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Bob Dole (R-KS) - 46.9% PV - 153 EV

1984



Robert Byrd (D-WV)/Birch Bayh (D-IN) - 51.3% PV - 349 EV
Bob Dole (R-KS)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX) - 48.1% PV - 189 EV

1988



Pierre S. du Pont IV (R-DE)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) - 53.0% PV - 357 EV
Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Paul Simon (D-IL) - 46.9% PV - 181 EV

1992



Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)/Alexander Haig (R-PA) - 50.6% PV - 306 EV
Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Tom Harkin (D-IA) - 48.0% PV - 232 EV
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2012, 07:23:50 PM »

1996



Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)/Alexander Haig (R-PA) - 51.8% PV - 278 EV
Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Al Gore (D-TN) - 47.3% PV - 260 EV

2000



Michael Jordan (D-IL)/Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 54.9% PV - 392 EV
John McCain (R-AZ)/Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) - 45.0% PV - 146 EV

2004



Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - 50.5% PV - 275 EV
Michael Jordan (D-IL)/Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 48.7% PV - 263 EV

2008



Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - 53.2% PV - 289 EV
Joe Biden (D-DE)/John Edwards (D-NC) - 46.6% PV - 249 EV

2012



John Kerry (D-MA)/Wesley Clark (D-AR) - 52.3% PV - 353 EV
John Huntsman (R-UT)/Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) - 45.0% PV - 185 EV
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2013, 02:27:32 PM »

Based on my recent post in the presidents list thread, this map illustrates the underlying political differences in that TL.



Biden (P-DE)/Obama (P-IL) - 323 (52.0%)
Jindal (R-LA)/Huntsman (R-UT) - 215 (47.6%)
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2013, 01:07:53 PM »

Should be fairly obvious.  Reps 261, Dems 277.

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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2013, 03:38:15 PM »

Should be fairly obvious.  Reps 261, Dems 277.


2016: Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Former Governor Mike Beebe (D-AR) vs Senator John Hoeven (R-ND)/Governor Greg Abbott (R-TX)?

He used the 2004/2008 EV #s.

Crap!  I actually meant it to be a 2016 but I guess the calc was on the wrong setting and I didn't notice!

Also, despite my love of Gillibrand, it isn't her.  Was supposed to be worse case scenario for Clinton in 2016 while still winning.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2013, 11:20:21 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2013, 11:22:43 PM by OAM »

2032:



Dem - 178
Rep - 360

I've recently started a new play through of Deus Ex, which is a classic video game and perhaps the first that really made players think about their actions.  It's also a political technothriller set in a cyberpunk dystopia 2052 where nearly every conspiracy is true.  I've been thinking about maybe doing an election series based on it, seeing as the background of the universe is pretty detailed and also gives the names and states of several senators.

Some notes about this map specifically.  Though set in 2052, 2032 would have been one of the most interesting elections.  The world didn't really start to go downhill until 2030, where "The Big One" leveled much of LA and caused major damage to surrounding areas.  In the long run the global economy starts to collapse from here, but in the short run pretty much the local economy West of the Rockies takes a nose dive, never to recover.  The drop in EV in the area is actually understating that, as the census was underway during those events.  Also, in my rough draft of the TL, this is actually a defeat of the Democratic incumbent too, who really mishandled the FEMA response.  In 2031 localized disorder starts to from in the affected areas as well, though mostly confined to rural areas.

Also unrelated to all that, Michigan is on a heavy anti-regulation binge following a booming bio-medical industry making it's home in Detroit in the late 2020s, and the previous administration passed heavy regulation of prosthetics (which have advanced to the point where they can surpass natural limbs).  Also Alaska has become a hot bed for anti-global warming projects, which were also heavily funded by the previous administration.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2013, 02:10:32 AM »

On the map?  Because 178+360 is definitely 538.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2013, 02:14:36 AM »

I just added the map up, and no, 538.  Did you forget to count Ohio?
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2013, 02:27:12 AM »

Yeah, in the process of making the map, I used 3 separate calculators, and only then did I edit the imagine URL.
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2013, 02:46:45 AM »

What I do whenever I make an alternate EV map is first make the map normally, then match the party control using this one.  http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/calculator.html

Then I change the values there, using windows calc to do + or - as I go and make sure it stays 0, with the added check of using the site to see if it adds to 538.
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2014, 07:10:02 PM »
« Edited: July 20, 2014, 07:16:57 PM by OAM »

Hey guys, been awhile.  Just a short blurb at the start.  These are from a global TL I've been working on because I can't get it out of my head.  It's not really US centric, but these maps are always fun to make.  PoD is Stalin choking to death on dinner a few days after V-E day, and also includes such fun things as a Korean War twice as long involving public nuclear blackmail.  Also has quite a few of our favorite potential presidents to love and hate.  And yes, of the 5 elections, Republicans won 4, but only the PV once.

1948



Governor Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY)/Governor Earl Warren (R-CA) - 327 EV/44.2% PV
President Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Senator Alben W. Barkley (D-KY) - 158 EV/49.7% PV
Senator Strom Thurmond (SR-SC)/Governor Fielding L. Wright (SR-MI) - 46 EV/ 5.9% PV

1952



Governor Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Senator Estes Kefauver (D-TN) - 428 EV/56.1% PV
President Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY)/Vice PresidentEarl Warren (R-CA) - 103 EV/43.5% PV

1956



Senator William F. Knowland (R-CA)/Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) - 315 EV/54.4% PV
President Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Vice President Estes Kefauver (D-TN) - 216 EV/45.1% PV

1960



President William F. Knowland (R-CA)/Vice President Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) - 272 EV/48.7% PV
Senator Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Senator Henry M. Jackson (D-WA) - 202 EV/ 37.9% PV
Senator Strom Thurmond (DC-SC)/Judge George Wallace (DC-AL) - 63 EV/10.4%
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1964



Governor Jim Rhodes (R-OH)/Governor Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 273 EV/48.9% PV
Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 265 EV/50.8% PV
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