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« on: January 30, 2015, 06:46:37 PM »

1828 Presidential Election

President John Q. Adams/ Secretary of the Treasury Richard Rush (National Republican): 134 EV; 53% pv
Fmr. Senator Andrew Jackson/ Vice President John C. Calhoun (Democratic): 127 EV; 47% pv

1832 Presidential Election

Secretary of State Henry Clay/ Congressman John Sergeant (National Republican): 184 EV; 55% pv
Senator John C. Calhoun/ Senator Martin Van Buren (Democratic): 104 EV; 45% pv

1836 Presidential Election

President Henry Clay/ Vice President John Sergeant (National Republican: 240 EV; 59% pv
Fmr. Senator Martin Van Buren/ Senator Richard M. Johnson (Democratic): 50 EV; 41% pv

1840 Presidential Election

Secretary of State William H. Harrison/ Senator Daniel Webster (National Republican): 221 EV; 54% pv
Senator Martin Van Buren/ Congressman James K. Polk (Democratic): 69 EV; 46% pv

1844 Presidential Election

Speaker of the House James K. Polk/ Congressman Lewis Cass (Democratic): 161 EV; 49% pv
President Daniel Webster/ Senator Theodore Frelinghuysen (National Republican): 114 EV; 48% pv
Fmr. State Representative James G. Birney/ Mr. Thomas Morris (Liberty): 0 EV; 2%

1848 Presidential Election

General Zachary Taylor/ Senator Stephen Douglas (Democratic): 272 EV; 61% pv
General Winfield Scott/ Governor Millard Fillmore (National Republican): 18 EV; 24% pv
Senator Charles F. Adams/ Senator John P. Hale (Free Soil): 0 EV; 15% pv

1852 Presidential Election

Senator Charles F. Adams/ Congressman George W. Julian (Free Soil): 158 EV; 38% pv
President Stephen Douglass/ Senator James Buchanan (Democratic): 130 EV; 36%
Fmr. Governor Millard Fillmore/ Congressman William A. Graham (National Republican): 8 EV; 26% pv
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2015, 04:33:36 PM »

1948

Governor Thomas Dewey/ Governor Earl Warren (Republican): 356 EV; 54% PV
President James Byrnes/ Senator Harry S Truman (Democratic): 175 EV; 31% PV
Fmr. Vice President Henry Wallace/ Senator Glen Taylor (Progressive): 0 EV; 15% PV
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2015, 04:56:58 PM »


How did you get Puerto Rico on there?
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2015, 09:37:19 PM »

1792: Washington Retires

Vice President John Adams of Massachusetts [Federalist]   79 Electoral Votes
Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson of Virginia [Republican]   56 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2015, 01:45:08 PM »

The President from Eire

1928

Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover / Senator Charles Curtis [REP] 399 EV; 57%
Governor Edmund de Valera / Senator Joseph Robinson [DEM] 132 EV; 42%

1932

Governor Franklin D. Roosevelt / Speaker of the House John Gardner [DEM] 472 EV; 57%
President Herbert Hoover / Vice President Charles Curtis [REP] 59 EV; 40%

1936

Fmr. Governor Edmund de Valera / Senator Alben W. Barkley [DEM] 396 EV; 54%
Senator Alf Landon / Journalist Frank Knox [REP] 74 EV; 41%
President John N. Gardner / Senator Bennet Clark [DIX] 61 EV; 13%
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 05:03:46 PM »

1792: Washington Retires

Vice President John Adams of Massachusetts [Federalist]   79 Electoral Votes
Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson of Virginia [Republican]   56 Electoral Votes

1796: The Republicans Take Power

*Jefferson and Jay each received 5 votes in Maryland

Fmr. Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson of Virginia [Republican]    72
Chief Justice John Jay of New York [Federalist]    66

1800: The Restoration of 1800

*MD: 7 Pinckney, 3 Madison; PA: 7 Pinckney, 8 Madison

Fmr. Vice President Thomas Pinckney of South Carolina [Federalist]    83
Secretary of State James Madison of Virginia [Republican]    55

1804: South Carolina Tightens Her Grip

NC: 4 Pinckney, 10 Madison
Governor Charles C. Pinckney of South Carolina [Federalist]    120
Fmr. Secretary of State James Madison of Virginia [Republican]    56

1808: New Yorkers All

MD: 6 Clinton, 5 King
Governor George Clinton of New York [Republican]    105
Vice President Rufus King of New York [Federalist]    71
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2015, 05:21:04 PM »

2004: John & John

Sen. John Kerry / Sen. John McCain [DEM] 282 EV, 51% pv
Pres. George W. Bush / VP Dick Cheney [REP] 256 EV, 48% pv

2008

Mayor Rudy Giulliani / Gov. Mitt Romney [REP] 300 EV, 54% pv
Pres. John Kerry / VP John McCain [DEM] 238 EV, 44% pv

2012

Pres. Rudy Giulliani / VP Mitt Romney [REP] 334 EV, 56% pv
Sen. Hillary Clinton / Sen. Evan Bayh [DEM] 204 EV, 43% pv

2016


REP Primary
VP Mitt Romney vs. Gov. Mike Huckabee vs. Sen. Kelly Ayotte

DEM Primary
Sen. Evan Bayh vs. Sen. Barack Obama vs. Gov. Brian Shweitzer
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2015, 06:13:22 PM »

1796: No Jefferson

Vice President John Adams [Federalist] 74 Electoral Votes
Governor Thomas Pinckney [Federalist] 59 Electoral Votes
Governor George Clinton [Democratic-Republican] 42 Electoral Votes
Fmr. Governor Patrick Henry [Democratic-Republican] 20 Electoral Votes
Governor Samuel Adams [Democratic-Republican] 15 Electoral Votes
Congressman James Madison [Democratic-Republican] 8 Electoral Votes
Others [Various] 58 Electoral Votes

1800

President John Adams [Federalist] 73 Electoral Votes
Vice President Thomas Pinckney [Federalist] 72 Electoral Votes
Fmr. Governor George Clinton [Democratic-Republican] 65 Electoral Votes
Congressman James Madison [Democratic-Republican] 63 Electoral Votes
Others [Various] 3 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2015, 12:15:20 AM »

2016 U.S. Presidential Jungle Primary - Results

Sec. Hillary Clinton [DEM] 27.9% votes, 37 States + DC
Sen. Bernie Sanders [IND] 15.4% votes, 5 States
Mr. Donald Trump [IND] 15.2%, 7 States
Sen. Ted Cruz [REP] 8.1%, 1 State
Dr. Ben Carson [REP] 7.1%, 0 States
Sen. Marco Rubio [REP] 7.1%, 0 States
Others [Various] 19.2%

With the right divided, Independent Senator Bernie Sanders managed to win the second spot in the runoff, narrowly defeating fellow independent Donald Trump. Had the old primary system remained in place, commentators speculated, Sanders and Trump might have chosen to run as candidates of one of the two major parties, but the adoption of the 28th Amendment - which replaced the old electoral college with a "jungle primary" system - allowed them to gain traction outside the two-party system.

2016 U.S. Presidential Runoff - Results


Sec. Hillary Clinton [DEM]  72.6% votes, 45 States + DC
Sen. Bernie Sanders [IND] 28.4% votes, 5 States

The strong support of the DNC and low conservative turnout hands the election to Clinton, though Sanders manages to improve upon his primary performance.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2015, 11:14:36 PM »

2020 U.S. Presidential Jungle Primary - Results

Pres. Hillary Clinton [DEM] 46.3% votes, 40 States + DC
Sen. Ted Cruz [REP] 24.7% votes, 8 States
Sen. Marco Rubio [REP] 22.4%, 1 State
Sen. Tom Cotton [REP] 5.0%, 1 States
Others [Various] 1.3% votes, 0 States

2020 U.S. Presidential Runoff - Results

Pres. Hillary Rodham Clinton [DEM] 52.8% votes, 29 States + DC
Sen. Ted Cruz [REP] 47.2% votes, 21 States
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2015, 11:46:30 PM »

2024 U.S. Presidential Jungle Primary

Sen. Tom Cotton [REP] 23.0% votes, 27 States
VP Julian Castro [DEM] 19.3% votes, 13 States
Gov. Kate Brown [DEM] 14.9% votes, 7 States
Sen. Cory Booker [DEM] 12.8% votes, 2 States + DC
Gov. Paul LePage [REP] 12.5% votes, 0 States
Sen. Rand Paul [REP] 7.1% votes, 1 State
Gov. Martin O'Malley [DEM] 6.3% votes, 0 States
Others [Various] 4.1% votes, 0 States

2020 U.S. Presidential Runoff - Results

Sen. Tom Cotton [REP] 50.4% votes, 26 States
VP Julian Castro [DEM] 49.6% votes, 24 States
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2016, 06:45:42 PM »


Sen. Evan Bayh / Sen. Thad Cochran [DEM] 29.7% votes, 16 States
Sen. Olympia Snowe / Gov. Tim Pawlenty [REP] 24.8% votes, 13 States
Rep. Dennis Kucinich / Rep. Bernie Sanders [SDP] 15.6% votes, 5 States + DC
Rep. Barack Obama / Sen. John McCain [IND] 12.7% votes, 6 states
Gov. Michael Bloomberg / Mr. Mark Zuckerberg [IND] 10.9% votes, 3 States
Gov. Brian Schweitzer / Rep. Jay Nixon [POP] 3.9% votes, 6 States
Gov. John Huntsman / Mr. Mitt Romney [MDP] 1.4% votes, 2 States
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2016, 05:24:25 PM »


Mr. H. Ross Perot / V. Adm. James Stockdale [IND]
Gov. George Wallace / Gen Curtis LeMay [AIP]
Rep. John Anderson / Gov. Patrick Lucey [IND]
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2016, 05:39:03 PM »

1912 - Second Place Finishers

Gov. Woodrow Wilson / Gov. Thomas Marshall [DEM]
Pres. Theodore Roosevelt / Gov. Hiram Johnson [PRO]
Pres. William Taft / Prof. Nicholas Butler [REP]
Mr. Eugene V. Debs / Mr. Emil Seidel [SOC]
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2016, 12:48:28 AM »

1952

Gen. Dwight Eisenhower / Sen. Joseph McCarthy [REP] 442 EV; 55% pv
Gov. Adlai E. Stevenson / Sen. John Sparkman [DEM] 89 EV; 44% pv

The assassination of President Eisenhower in the Autumn of 1953 intensifies the Red Scare, as President McCarthy charges Eisenhower's assassins of having ties to the CPUSA and calling for emergency legislation to suspend the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th Amendments to the Constitution.

1956

Pres. Joseph McCarthy / Sen. John Bricker [REP] 531 EV; 71% pv
Sen. Estes Kefauver / Gov. Averell Harriman [DEM] 0 EV; 27% pv

The Citizen Loyalty Act of 1957 outlaws opposition to the president, doubles the size of the Supreme Court (allowing McCarthy to prevent Constitutional challenges to his Administration), authorizes the CUA to begin a massive public surveillance program, and establishes the National Party as the state political organization.

1960

Pres. Joseph McCarthy / VP John W. Bricker [NAT] 537 EV; 99% pv
Invalid    1% pv

The Revolution of 1967 results in the overthrow of the McCarthyite regime. The provisional government, established by a coalition of the Socialist Party, the Workers Front, and the Democratic Alliance, adopt a new Constitution and call for provisional elections for Congress and President in the Spring of 1968.

1968

Dr. Martin Luther King / Prov. VP Hubert H. Humphrey [SP] 48%
Prov. Pres. Birch Bayh / Gen. Ronald Reagan [DA] 37%
Prov. Rep. Clifton DeBerry / Dr. Benjamin Spock [WF]
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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2016, 08:20:44 PM »

So, was the Revolution of 1967 peaceful, a 2nd Civil War, or something in between?  And how does King win the Deep South in 1968?  Are most Southern whites disenfranchised as during Reconstruction for supporting the McCarthyites?
In a way, the 1967 Revolt was a cross between the Russian Revolution and the OTL Iranian Revolution. The revolution as a series of student protests against the Vietnam War (in which the McCarthyite Regime had made the ill-fated decision to employ nuclear weapons, leading to massive international backlash). In early summer, the protesters forged an alliance with leaders of the Workers Front, an underground labor movement comprised of union leaders and radical socialist thinkers. The Workers Front called for massive, nationwide strikes in protest of the Regime's actions; when McCarthy ordered the military to break the picket lines, the strike became an armed revolt that soon gained control of many of the nation's largest cities. As socialist leaders and democratic activists joined the protest movement, the troops deployed to break the strike (the overwhelming majority of whom were draftees) famously refused to fire on the strikers and instead joined the revolutionaries.

And yes, King carried the Deep South states in large part due to the fact that Southern whites had overwhelmingly supported the McCarthy regime: 2/3 of white Southerners either boycotted the election or were purposefully disenfranchised, meaning that the voting block in those states was overwhelmingly black and pro-Socialist.
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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2016, 03:32:36 PM »

1832: Jackson Retires

Sen. Henry Clay / Sec. Amos Ellmaker [NAT] 150 EV, 51% pv
Sec. Martin Van Buren / Sen. John Tyler [DEM] 141 EV, 49% pv
Gov. John Floyd / Mr. Henry Lee [NUL] 11 EV, 0% pv
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2016, 05:02:02 PM »
« Edited: January 28, 2016, 05:43:31 PM by Senator Truman »

A map of the fifty states as they voted in the first (contested) presidential election they were eligible to participate in:


Democratic Republican   15 States
Republican   12 States
Democratic   11 States + DC
Federalist   9 States
Populist   2 States
Whig    1 States
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2016, 05:45:14 PM »

Oregon should be blue here. It became a state in 1859, and voted for Lincoln in 1860.

EDIT: Additionally, Utah voted for Bryan in 1896, and hence should be red.
Thanks, fixed.
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2016, 05:19:10 PM »

How do I get rid of the blank Puerto Rico?
You can't without giving up the expanded color palette. 
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2016, 09:17:25 PM »
« Edited: February 12, 2016, 09:42:29 PM by Senator Truman »

1864: The Last Gasp of Dixie

Gen. George B. McClellan / Rep. George H. Pendleton [DEM] 155 EV; 46% pv
Pres. Abraham Lincoln / VP Hannibal Hamlin [REP] 58 EV; 43% pv
Gen. John C. Fremont / Gen. John Cochran [RAD] 20 EV; 11% pv
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2016, 02:00:30 PM »

1868: Seward's Revenge
In defiance of the "Copperhead" wing of his party, President McClellan continues to prosecute the war as a crusade to save the Union after peace negotiations collapse in early 1865. Enraged anti-war Democrats form a breakaway ticket in the 1868 elections, allowing Republican William H. Seward to win in a rout.


Sen. William H. Seward / Rep. Schuyler Colfax [REP] 222 EV; 48% pv
Pres. George McClellan / Gen. John A. Dix [DEM] 11 EV; 33% pv
Gov. Clement Vallandigham / VP George H. Pendleton [COP] 0 EV; 19% pv

1872: His Truth Goes Marching On
Seward renews the war effort in earnest, with the result that by March 1871 the states of the former Confederacy have all laid down their arms. The Republican ticket is reelected in a landslide, but Seward's untimely death in the days following the election elevates Vice President Colfax to the executive mansion.


Pres. William H. Seward / VP Schuyler Colfax [REP] 59% pv
Fr. Gov. Horatio Seymour / Sen. Thomas A. Hendricks [DEM] 41% pv


Pres. Schuyler Colfax / Sen. Henry Wilson [REP] 234 EV
Pres. Schuyler Colfax / Sen. Salmon P. Chase [REP] 22 EV
Pres. Schuyler Colfax / Gen. John C. Fremont [REP] 6 EV
Sen. Charles Sumner / Sen. Salmon P. Chase [REP] 18 EV
Fr. Gov. Horatio Seymour / Sen. Thomas A. Hendricks [DEM] 15 EV
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2016, 07:16:42 PM »


Fmr. Mayor Robert F. Huntingdon / Mr. John Little [People's] 370 EV, 59% pv
President John Lackland / D-CIA Roger de Lacy [Feudalist] 168 EV, 41% pv
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2016, 04:51:59 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2016, 07:36:21 PM by Senator Truman »

1856: "Uncle Sam"
Despite his controversial record, President Franklin Pierce is nominated for a second term by the Democrats in 1856. Reviled in the North as a "doughface" and a puppet of the slave power, Pierce's nomination kills the Democrats in the North; the nomination of radical Free-Soiler William H. Seward by the fledgling Republicans likewise scares nativists and Western moderates away from the party. His opponents constrained by sectional rivalries, Senator Samuel Houston of the Native American Party manages to build a coalition of voters from the West and Upper South to narrowly win the election.


Sen. Samuel Houston / Speaker Nathaniel Banks [NAT] 149 EV, 41% pv
Sen. William H. Seward / Rep. Joshua R. Giddings [REP] 81 EV, 32% pv
Pres. Franklin Pierce / Min. James Buchanan [DEM] 66 EV, 27% pv


1860: Sam the Giant Killer
Though elected as a moderate, Houston's frustration with Southern intransigence on the slavery question and outright fury over pro-slavery tactics in "Bleeding Kansas" throws him firmly into the anti-slavery camp. The 1860 election is the most sectionally polarized contests in American history, with the South voting essentially unanimously for the Democratic ticket and the North - somewhat less unanimously - backing Houston's "Union Party."


Pres. Samuel Houston / Sen. Abraham Lincoln [UNION] 198 EV, 55% pv
Fmr. Sen. Stephen Douglas / Sen. Herschel Johnson [DEM] 105 EV, 45% pv


1864: His Soul Goes Marching On
Following Houston's reelection, 11 Southern states secede from the Union and declare themselves the "Confederate States of America." President Houston dies of natural causes in 1863, but not before Northern forces crush the Southern rebellion and lay waste to slavery.


Pres. Abraham Lincoln / Sen. William H. Seward [UNION] 243 EV, 61% pv
Rep. Clement Vallandigham / Fmr. Gov. Horatio Seymour [DEM] 0 EV, 39% pv
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2016, 12:34:22 PM »


I may have posted this before, but how could this happen in an actual election?
Not without decades of alternate history as prologue. Vermont is not voting with Idaho and Wyoming in the general.
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