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BaconBacon96
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« on: December 15, 2013, 08:59:41 pm »
« edited: December 15, 2013, 09:09:00 pm by BaconBacon96 »


Former Governor Jon Huntsman/US Senator Angus King-482 EV
Reverend Al Sharpton/US Representative Barbara Lee-39 EV
David Duke/Jared Taylor-17 EV

This is the result of Al Sharpton and David Duke somehow gaining the nomination of the major parties.
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 01:36:00 am »

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Brian Schweitzer

Potential Democratic primary 2016.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2014, 07:21:04 pm »

Here's a weird 2016 map where Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders both mount third-party bids when Chris Christie wins the Republican nomination and when Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nomination.

Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ)/Senator Marco Rubio(R-FL): 270 Electoral Votes
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA): 169 Electoral Votes
Senator Ted Cruz (TeaParty-TX)/Former Governor Mike Huckabee (Tea Party-AR):89 Electoral Votes
Seantor Bernie Sanders (Progressive-VT)/Mayor Rocky Anderson (Progressive-UT): 3 Electoral Votes
Looks like Bernie spoiled.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2014, 08:42:13 pm »

Richard Nixon is killed in an air crash in 1971. Edmund Muskie wins the Democratic primary and faces Spiro Agnew in the general election. George Wallace runs another third-party campaign, this time targeting working class socially conservative Democrats more heavily.


Maine Senator Edmund Muskie/Former North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford- 281
President Spiro Agnew/California Governor Ronald Reagan- 157
Alabama Governor George Wallace/California Representative John G. Schmitz-100
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2014, 03:46:09 pm »

Richard Nixon is killed in an air crash in 1971. Edmund Muskie wins the Democratic primary and faces Spiro Agnew in the general election. George Wallace runs another third-party campaign, this time targeting working class socially conservative Democrats more heavily.


Maine Senator Edmund Muskie/Former North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford- 281
President Spiro Agnew/California Governor Ronald Reagan- 157
Alabama Governor George Wallace/California Representative John G. Schmitz-100


1976


Fmr. California Governor Ronald Reagan/Pennsylvania Senator Richard Schweiker-338
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President Edmund Muskie/Vice President Terry Sanford-200
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2014, 02:23:43 am »

Just curious: would you stipulate that Muskie won in that '72 map because of Wallace or in spite of Wallace? Good maps!
That's a hard one. I mean let's say Wallace didn't run, the South, perhaps with the exception of North Carolina (due to Terry Sanford) would've gone Republican. Even with all of the Southern electoral votes, the Republicans would have been well short of a victory.

However, taking the Northern states with large conservative Democrat populations, like Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and West Virginia into account, things become more complicated. Wallace would've made it harder for both candidates to win these states and only one of Muskie's states would be needed to create a hung college, which would've been Wallace's strategy.

So in the end I'd say Muskie won in spite of Wallace, not because of.
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2014, 01:23:41 am »

Isn't it ironic that Gore still did better than Clinton in Florida?
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 09:20:55 pm »
« Edited: May 16, 2014, 10:51:22 pm by NE Representative BaconBacon96 »

Ronald Reagan-One Term Only

In late 1983, with declining health and an increasing age, Ronald Reagan announced to the world that he was not seeking reelection to the presidency. Endorsing George HW Bush as his successor, he urged Republicans to get behind his Vice President.  The party did so, with Bush winning all 50 states in the primaries against token opposition.

1984 Democratic Primaries

The Democratic Party primaries were not so simple however. To the surprise of many in the liberal establishment, former Vice President Walter Mondale announced he was not going to seek the nomination. In his place came a number of different candidates including Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Mo Udall and Joe Biden. Reverend Jesse Jackson also ran, but was primarily seen as the black candidate and made little traction outside of that demographic.

Gary Hart emerged as a moderate, more modern candidate. He was a fresh face that many could get behind. The left of the party failed to unite, with Moynihan, Biden and Udall all winning primaries. Hart capitalized on this and successfully portrayed the others as believers in traditional liberal policies of the past. One by one all of them fell, with Moynihan lasting longer than the others and providing the only real threat Hart ever had to the nomination. Moynihan never got too close to Hart though and the Democratic Party's candidate for president was indeed the Colorado Senator.



Senator Gary Hart of Colorado
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
Reverend Jesse Jackson
Representative Mo Udall of Arizona
Senator Joe Biden of Delaware

Under intense pressure to choose a running mate from the liberal wing of the party, Hart chose Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey.

The General Election of 1984

Going into the general election, Bush was leading the polls against all potential Democratic opponents. With both establishment and grassroots conservatives supporting him, he could project a sense of unity in the GOP, contrasting with the divided Democrats. At the Republican National Convention outgoing President Ronald Reagan made a passionate speech for his Veep. This and the choice of well-known Representative Jack Kemp as the VP candidate seemed to put Bush out of reach for Hart. However, this made Bush complacent. He began to campaign less intensely and commentators began to question his general lack of policies, besides the ones the Reagan Administration had already implemented. He was smashed during the debates by the younger, faster and more readily prepared Hart.

When the results had finally come in, it had become clear that Gary Hart had pulled off the greatest turnaround since Truman beat Dewey in 1948.




Colorado Senator Gary Hart/New Jersey Senator Bill Bradley-302 EV
Vice President George HW Bush/New York Representative Jack Kemp-226 EV
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2014, 08:27:08 pm »

Dwight Eisenhower Declines To Run for Re-election



Tennessee Senator Estes Kefauver/Massachusetts Senator John F. Kennedy-281 EVs
Vice President Richard Nixon/Wisconsin Governor Walter J. Kohler- 250 EVs



President Estes Kefauver/Vice President John F. Kennedy-228 EVs
New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller/Retired General Alfred M. Gruenther-252 EVs
Georgia Senator Herman Talmadge/Former Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus-57 EVs

Angered by the strongly pro-civil rights agenda of the Kefauver Administration, the Southern Democrats launch a pro-segregationist third party bid led by Herman Talmadge. President Kefauver and Vice President Kennedy are very narrowly reelected by Congress
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2014, 09:46:02 pm »
« Edited: June 27, 2014, 09:47:35 pm by NE Representative BaconBacon96 »

Gerald Ford Wins in 1976



President Gerald Ford/Kansas Senator Bob Dole-277 EVs
Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter/Minnesota Senator Walter Mondale-261 EVs

1980


Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy/Fmr. Florida Governor Reubin Askew-338 EVs
Vice President Bob Dole/Tennessee Senator Howard Baker-200 EVs

1984


President Ted Kennedy/Vice President Reubin Askew-358 EVs
Fmr. Secretary of Defense George HW Bush/Tennessee Governor Lamar Alexander-180 EVs
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2014, 08:14:48 pm »

1988



New York Governor Mario Cuomo/Georgia Senator Sam Nunn-349 EVs
New York Representative Jack Kemp/North Carolina Governor Elizabeth Dole-189 EVs

1992



Businessman Ross Perot/Missouri Senator John Danforth-270 EVs
President Mario Cuomo/Vice President Sam Nunn-268 EVs

1996



President Ross Perot/Vice President John Danforth-307 EVs
Fmr. Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton/Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey-231 EVs
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2014, 09:24:32 pm »
« Edited: June 29, 2014, 09:31:57 pm by NE Representative BaconBacon96 »

2000



Vice President John Danforth/Colorado Governor Bill Owens-274 EVs
South Dakota Senator Tom Daschle/Vermont Governor Howard Dean-264 EVs

2004



Massachusetts Senator John Kerry/Retired General Wesley Clark-329 EVs
Vice President Bill Owens/Activist Alan Keyes-209 EVs

2008



President John Kerry/Vice President Wesley Clark-329 EVs
Arizona Senator John McCain/Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour-209 EVs

2012



Fmr. Florida Governor Jeb Bush/New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayotte-272 EVs
Vice President Wesley Clark/Fmr. Indiana Senator Evan Bayh-266
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2014, 09:33:22 pm »

Are 2004 and 2008 identical on purpose? That would be historical
You'll notice they aren't exactly identical. In 2008 Mississippi's PV surpasses 60% GOP.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2014, 05:02:45 pm »

Brian Schweitzer vs. Susan Collins
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2014, 11:44:13 pm »

President Thune



South Dakota Senator John Thune
Indiana Representative Mike Pence
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
Texas Representative Ron Paul
Fmr. Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour



South Dakota Senator John Thune/Ohio Senator Rob Portman-272 EVs
President Barack Obama/Vice President Joe Biden-266 EVs
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2014, 06:45:33 pm »
« Edited: October 09, 2014, 11:02:48 pm by BaconBacon96 »



Illinois Governor Adlai Stevenson/Alabama Senator John Sparkman- 294 EVs
Fmr. Minnesota Governor Harold Stassen/Ohio Senator John Bricker- 196 EVs
General Douglas MacArthur/South Carolina Governor James F. Byrnes- 41 EVs


In 1952, The Republican Party nominated liberal Harold Stassen after a long convention fight. Conservatives draft general Douglas MacArthur to run on a strong anti-communist platform. The split vote allow Stevenson to win the election and assume the presidency.
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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2014, 01:44:29 am »

2016



Fmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/Hawaii Senator Brian Schatz 371 (50.2%)
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul/Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker 158 (43.0%)
South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham/New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayotte (6.1%)
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2014, 07:35:01 pm »

2016 Democratic Primary



Fmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (64.5%)
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders (18.3%)
Fmr. Virginia Senator Jim Webb (15.6%)
Others 1.6%
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2015, 07:20:12 pm »

Wait, you have Walkace's running mate as the KFC guy?
He was indeed considered for the ticket. He never showed any interest, though.
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2015, 03:20:57 am »

1996

Ross Perot throws his support behind retired general Colin Powell, whose moderate policies and image of refined leadership narrowly triumphs over the popular but now scandal ridden Bill Clinton.


Retired General Colin Powell/Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander- 278 (49.0%)
President Bill Clinton/Vice President Al Gore- 260 (48.7%)
Others 2.7%

2000

Jesse Jackson emerges from a weak field as the Democratic candidate to take on the very popular President Powell. Pat Buchanan challenges Powell from the right, attacking his moderate positions. Powell nonetheless cruises to an easy victory, dispatching easily of his provocative opponents.


President Colin Powell/Vice President Lamar Alexander- 498 (55.6%)
Reverend Jesse Jackson/North Carolina Senator John Edwards- 3 (33.1%)
Activist Pat Buchanan/Former Representative Bob Dornan- 37 (10.3%)
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