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MadmanMotley
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« on: February 22, 2013, 03:57:30 AM »

2012:

Barack Obama/Joe Biden (D) 358 EV
Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty (R) 155 EV
Ron Paul/Jesse Ventura (IR)* 25 EV
*Ron Paul runs as an Independent under the Reform party.
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2013, 03:28:33 AM »

2016:

Rand Paul/Gary Johnson (R) 296 EV
Joe Biden/Deval Patrick (D) 242 EV
Michael Bloomberg/Ralph Nader (I) 0 EV
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2013, 01:22:15 AM »



This is the map between a generic Democrat and a Generic Republican in 2048. Explain the realignment.

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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2013, 05:27:04 PM »



Bill Clinton/Generic VP: 385, 57%
Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan: 153, 42%
Gary Johnson/Jim Gray: 0, 1%
Switch Illinois and Indiana. Other than that, seems about right.
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2013, 05:28:58 PM »

2012


Obama/Biden  375 (43.2%)
Romeny/Ryan   159 (39.1%)
Paul/Schiff    4 (17.2%)
I wish this actually happened, the debates would have been spectacular. Cheesy
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2013, 07:16:43 PM »


Biden/Schweitzer 278 EV
Christie/Walker 260 EV
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2013, 10:21:21 PM »

Let's have some fun here, the most recent VP to run for president, their running mate is the most recent unsuccessful VP Nominee. The year, 2016. So the tickets are:
Dan Quayle/Paul Ryan 279EV
Joe Biden/John Edwards 259EV
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2013, 10:13:50 PM »

1968:
Reagan/Romney 354EV
Humphrey/Muskie 145EV
Wallace/Lemay 39EV


1972:
Reagan/Romney 517EV
McGovern/Shriver 21EV



1976:
Romney/Laxalt 327EV
Carter/Mondale 211EV

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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2013, 10:45:54 PM »

1968:

Romney/Hatfield 374EV
Humphrey/Muskie 125EV
Wallace/LeMay 39EV

1972:

Romney/Hatfield 470EV
McGovern/Shriver 68EV

1976:

Hatfield/Reagan 315EV
Shriver/Church 161EV
Wallace/Byrd 62EV

1980:

Hatfield/Reagan 240EV
Bentsen/Kennedy 298EV

1984:


Bush/Anderson 230EV
Bentsen/Kennedy 308EV

1988:


Baker/Crane 294EV
Kennedy/Glenn 244EV

1992:


Baker/Crane 299EV
Harkin/Clinton 144EV
Brown/Gore 95EV

1996:


Crane/Lugar 186EV
Clinton/Tsongas 352EV

2000:


Quayle/McCain 169EV
Clinton/Tsongas 369EV

2004:


Johnson/Pataki
Dean/Edwards

2008:


Johnson/Pataki 285EV
Edwards/Clark 253EV
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 02:24:03 PM »


2004:

Johnson/Pataki 285EV
Edwards/Clark 253EV


The Governor of New Mexico Johnson? Or is there someone else that I don't know?
The one and only!
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MadmanMotley
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Political Matrix
E: -1.29, S: -5.91

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2014, 01:47:00 PM »

An Independent Streak:
1980:

Anderson/Lucey 273EV
Reagan/Bush 265EV
Carter/Mondale15EV

1984:

Sen. Howard Baker/Sen. Paul Laxalt 373EV
Pres. John Anderson/VP. Patrick Lucey 74EV (newly formed Justice Party)
Fmr. VP. Walter Mondale/Gov. Jerry Brown 91EV

TBC
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MadmanMotley
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E: -1.29, S: -5.91

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2014, 12:28:39 PM »

2012:

Gov. Mitch Daniels (R-IN)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 301EV
Pres. Barack Obama (D-IL)/VP. Joe Biden (D-DE) 237EV

2016:

Pres. Mitch Daniels (R-IN)/VP. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 360EV
Fmr. VP Joe Biden (D-DE)/Fmr. Secretary Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS) 178EV

2020:

VP. Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Gov. Greg Abbott (R-TX) 254EV
Sen. Kristen Gillibrand (D-NY)/Sen. Sherrod Brown 284EV
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MadmanMotley
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Political Matrix
E: -1.29, S: -5.91

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2014, 05:26:52 PM »

2004:



Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)/DNC Chair Howard Dean (D-VT) 278EV
Pres. George W. Bush (R-TX)/VP. Richard Cheney (R-WY) 260EV
After a run by conservative icon Senator Ron Paul in the primaries, Bush was weakened and as a result, did not have near enough money to beat Senator Kerry.

2008:



Sen. Ron Paul (R-TX)/Gov. Jesse Ventura (I-MN) 271EV
Pres. John Kerry (D-MA)/VP Howard Dean (D-VT) 194EV
Fmr. VP Richard Cheney (R-WY)/Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) 73EV
After the escalation of the Iraq War and the economic collapse of 2008, John Kerry was an unpopular president. Former VP Cheney won the republican nomination, and as such, Senator Ron Paul of Texas ran as an independent, citing that both of the candidates had failed America. His message was popular, and he won, narrowly, being the first independent since Washington.

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MadmanMotley
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2014, 01:40:25 PM »

2000:

Fmr. Secretary of Labor Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/Fmr. Gov. John McKernan Jr. (R-ME) 286EV
VP. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) 252EV

2004:

Pres. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/VP. John McKernan (R-ME) 324EV
Fmr. Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) 214EV

2008:

VP. John McKernan (R-ME)/Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR) 162EV
Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN)/Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) 376EV

2012:

Fmr. Gov. George W Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Gov. John Huntsman (R-UT) 244EV
Pres. Evan Bayh (D-IN)/VP. Barack Obama (D-IL) 294EV

2016:

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)/Gov. Susana Martinez (R-NM) 293EV
VP. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 245EV

2020:

Pres. Rand Paul (R-KY)/VP. Susana Martinez (R-NM) 345EV
Fmr. Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/Fmr. Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 193EV

2024:

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Fmr. Gov Mike Pence (R-IN) 208EV
Gov. Jason Carter (D-GA)/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) 330EV
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MadmanMotley
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Political Matrix
E: -1.29, S: -5.91

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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2014, 09:42:05 PM »

Death of Social Conservatism:

2012:

Pres. Barack Obama/VP Joe Biden 378EV 51%
Fmr. Sen. Rick Santorum/Fmr. Spkr. Newt Gingrich 157EV 45%
Rep. Ron Paul/Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson 3EV 6%

2016:

VP. Joe Biden/Sen. Kristen Gillibrand 348EV 48%
Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee/Sen. John Thune 187EV 44%
Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson/Rep. Justin Amash 3EV 8%

2020:

Pres. Joe Biden/VP Kristen Gillibrand 244EV 48%
Sen. Rand Paul/Gov. Rick Synder 294EV 50%
Activist Mary Ruwart/Judge Jim Grey 0EV 2%
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MadmanMotley
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E: -1.29, S: -5.91

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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2014, 09:53:06 PM »

2016:

Sen. Rand Paul/Gov. Scott Walker 282EV
Gov. Jason Carter/Sen. Mark Warner 256EV
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MadmanMotley
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E: -1.29, S: -5.91

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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2014, 09:42:28 PM »

The Battle of Vice-Presidents:
2000:

Fmr. VP Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Fmr. Secretary Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 290EV 48%
VP Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 248EV 47%
Mr. Ralph Nader (P-CT)/Winona LaDuke (P-CA) 5%

2004:


Pres. Dan Quayle (R-IN)/VP. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 303EV 46%
General Wesley Clark (D-AR)/Fmr Maj. Leader Dick Gerhardt (D-MO) 45%
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (P-OH)/Rep. Bernie Sanders (P-VT) 9%
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2014, 05:01:50 PM »

2016:
The two extremes of each party are nominated, Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders, as a result, a pro-union, moderate independent ticket forms with Joe Manchin at the top and takes most of the rust belt.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) 211EV
Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) 190EV
Sen. Joe Manchin (I-WV)/Fmr. Sen. Evan Bayh (I-IN)
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2014, 07:21:09 PM »



Mayor Rudy Giuliani, NY/Governor Bill Owens, CO (R) - 363
Senator Hillary Clinton, NY/Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D) - 175

Someone's optimistic Wink
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2014, 02:57:04 PM »

Second Placers (presuming a competitive primary):
2012:

Pres. Barack Obama (D-IL)/VP. Joe Biden (D-DE) 347EV 52%
Fmr. Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Fmr. Spkr. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) 45%
Gov. Gary Johnson/Judge Jim Grey 0EV 3%

2008:

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) 365EV 53%
Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR)/Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 173EV 45%
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2014, 12:36:17 AM »

A Four Party System:
Key:
Progressive Party: Typical progressives, encompasses a majority of what would be Democrats Ex. Al Gore, Dennis Kucinich, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden
Conservative Party: Social and Fairly Economically Conservatives, Ex. Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee, George W Bush.
Populist/Moderate Party:Mixed bag of populists and moderates, Ex. Jon Huntsman, Scott Brown, Susan Collins, Joe Manchin, Zell Miller, Ross Perot, Jim Matheson, Jerry Brown, Joe Lieberman.
Liberal Party: Classical Liberalism, Socially liberally, with it's members varying on economic standpoints. Ex. Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Mike Gravel, Walter Jones, Buddy Roemer, Jesse Ventura, Pat Buchanan.

2000:

VP. Al Gore (P-TN)/Sen. Joe Biden (P-TN) 241EV
Gov. George W. Bush (C-TX)/Sen. Olympia Snowe (M-ME) 190EV
Sen. David Boren (M-OK)/Gov. Jerry Brown (M-CA) 36EV
Gov. Jesse Ventura (L-MN)/Rep. Walter Jones (L-NC) 71EV

Bush is elected by the House (Events remain at in TTL)

2004:
The unpopularity of the war in Iraq is a major factor, and the Progressives have nominated a candidate that voted for the war, the conservatives have the president who started the war, the moderate party has nominated a senator that is on the verge of becoming a conservative, and the liberals have nominated a former conservative.

Sen. Hillary Clinton (P-NY)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (M-CT) 252EV
Pres. George W. Bush (C-TX)/VP. Olympia Snowe (M-ME) 105EV
Sen. Zell Miller (M-GA)/Sen. Evan Bayh (M-IN) 55EV
Rep. Ron Paul (L-TX)/Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM) 126EV

Again thrown to the house, despite coming in third, Bush is reelected, as many moderates support Olympia Snowe, and Zell Miller came in fourth, not allowing him on the congressional ballot.

2008:

With a recession, and the Iraq War taking a heavy toll, the conservatives are polling low, and with the Progressive take over of the house and senate in 2006, they too have been blamed for the economic collapse.

Sen. Dennis Kucinich (P-OH)/Sen. Bernie Sanders (P-VT) 206EV
Sen. Rick Santorum (C-PA)/Gov. Mark Sanford (C-SC) 55EV
Gov. Joe Manchin (M-WV)/Zell Miller (M-GA) 5EV
Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Sen. Larry Pressler (L-SD) 272EV

For the first time since 1996, a President has been elected by maintaining a majority of the electoral college.
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2014, 07:32:26 PM »

1996:

Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN)/Gen. Colin Powell (R-NY) 286EV
Pres. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/VP. Al Gore (D-TN) 252EV
Ross Perot/Pat Choate 0EV

2000:

Pres. Richard Lugar (R-IN)/VP. Colin Powell 337EV
Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)/Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) 201EV

2004:

Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Gov. John Engler 249EV
Fmr. VP Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) 289EV

2008:

Gov. Gary Johnson (R-NM)/Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) 358EV
Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/VP. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 180EV

2012:

Pres. Gary Johnson (R-NM)/VP. Liza Murkowski (R-AK) 323EV
Fmr. Pres. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS) 215EV

2016:

VP. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)*/Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) 269EV
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS)/Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)* 269EV
*(House elects Murkowski, Senate elects Obama.)

2020:

Pres. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)/Sen. Mia Love (R-UT) 268EV
VP. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Sen. Kristen Gillibrand (D-NY) 270EV
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2014, 01:51:55 AM »

2012:

Gov. Gary Johnson (R-NM)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Pres. Barack Obama (D-IL)/VP. Joe Biden (D-DE)

2016:


Pres. Gary Johnson (R-NM)/VP. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Fmr. VP. Joe Biden (D-DE)/Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO)
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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2014, 11:14:23 PM »

Dwight Eisenhower Declines To Run for Re-election



Tennessee Senator Estes Kefauver/Massachusetts Senator John F. Kennedy-281 EVs
Vice President Richard Nixon/Wisconsin Governor Walter J. Kohler- 250 EVs



President Estes Kefauver/Vice President John F. Kennedy-228 EVs
New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller/Retired General Alfred M. Gruenther-252 EVs
Georgia Senator Herman Talmadge/Former Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus-57 EVs

Angered by the strongly pro-civil rights agenda of the Kefauver Administration, the Southern Democrats launch a pro-segregationist third party bid led by Herman Talmadge. President Kefauver and Vice President Kennedy are very narrowly reelected by Congress
Which leads to...


Vice-President John F. Kennedy/Texas Governor John Connally 247EV
Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater/Pennsylvania Governor William Scranton 291EV
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MadmanMotley
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2014, 12:18:55 AM »

2004 Confederate Presidential Election:

President Newt Gingrich (D-GA)/Vice-President Lamar Alexander (D-TN) 39%
Governor Gary Johnson (Constitutional Confederacy-NM)/Delegate Walter Jones Jr. (CC-NC) 33%
Delegate John Edwards (Populist-NC)/Governor Mark Warner (P-VA) 28%

Runoff:

President Newt Gingrich (D-GA)/Vice-President Lamar Alexander (D-TN) 42%
Governor Gary Johnson (CC-NM)/Delegate Walter Jones Jr. (CC-NC) 58%
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