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« Reply #4775 on: September 19, 2015, 02:04:28 PM »
« edited: September 19, 2015, 04:19:28 PM by Hydera »




Senator Steven Armstrong R-CO  57%

Senator Bernie Sanders I-VT/D  36%





Obama's Map had the Recession happened in 2007 and bottomed out in 2008 instead of 2008/2009.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/ Sen. Joe Biden(D-DL): 463 EV's  62%

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/ Gov. Sarah Palin(R-AK): 75 EV's  34%




With the alternative scenario but with Hillary. Hillary does a little worse with liberal voters, leading to not 60% that obama got in the pacific coast and northern states but performs better with the interior states and barely loses a few.

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/ Sen. Barack Obama(D-IL): 513 EV's  64%

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/ Gov. Sarah Palin(R-AK): 75 EV's  31%
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« Reply #4776 on: September 19, 2015, 07:09:02 PM »




Senator Steven Armstrong R-CO  57%

Senator Bernie Sanders I-VT/D  36%





Obama's Map had the Recession happened in 2007 and bottomed out in 2008 instead of 2008/2009.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/ Sen. Joe Biden(D-DL): 463 EV's  62%

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/ Gov. Sarah Palin(R-AK): 75 EV's  34%




With the alternative scenario but with Hillary. Hillary does a little worse with liberal voters, leading to not 60% that obama got in the pacific coast and northern states but performs better with the interior states and barely loses a few.

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/ Sen. Barack Obama(D-IL): 513 EV's  64%

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/ Gov. Sarah Palin(R-AK): 75 EV's  31%
If Obama won Mississippi, wouldn't he also win Louisiana?
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« Reply #4777 on: September 19, 2015, 07:21:00 PM »
« Edited: September 19, 2015, 10:28:15 PM by VPH »


Joe Biden/Steve Beshear vs Ben Carson/Mary Fallin


Populists live onward.
The Democrats become a mostly Western Party while the Populists live on in the South and in eastern rural areas. The GOP remains very New England based. The Mormon Party forms.
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« Reply #4778 on: September 20, 2015, 12:47:47 PM »

Clinton/Obama: 473 (57.1%)
Cheney/Perry: 65 (41.8%)

Clinton/Obama: 379 (53.2%)
Romney/Thune: 159 (45.1%)
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« Reply #4779 on: September 21, 2015, 10:30:12 PM »
« Edited: September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 PM by L.D. Smith, Knight of Appalachia »



Dukakis
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« Reply #4780 on: September 22, 2015, 10:37:07 PM »
« Edited: September 22, 2015, 10:44:31 PM by Bigby »



Governor Ron White (I - TX)/Senator Garry Johnson (R - NM): 372 EVs, 42.3% PV
Senator Hebert Kohl (D - WI)/Fmr. Governor Dianne Feinstein (D - CA): 91 EVs, 27.5% PV
Congressman Bobby Jindal (R - LA)/Senator Rick Santorum (R - PA): 75 EVs, 24.5% PV
Fmr. Congressman Ron Paul (L - TX)/Fmr. Congressman Bob Barr (L - GA): 0 EVs, 3.9% PV

Tie-in with my most recent Alternate Presidents list. Note that Jindal is not the official Republican nominee, but is running against White under the 3rd party label of "Conservative Republican" in opposition to White's socially liberal and "unholy" platform. The official Republican party did not endorse a nominee due to brokered convention and endorsed Ron White due to the significance of Reform-friendly contenders.
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« Reply #4781 on: September 23, 2015, 12:43:38 PM »



Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 368 EV

Fmr. State Sen. Michael Rubio (D-CA) 170 EV
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« Reply #4782 on: September 23, 2015, 12:56:40 PM »

1920



Charles F. Kane/James M. Cox 290 EV 49%
Warren G. Hardin/Calvin Coolidge 45%
Eugene V. Debs/Seymore Stedman 4%

In 1923, scandal erupts after President Kane is found to have had an affair with a young film actress. The investigation reveals a series of corrupt dealings within the administration to cover up the affair, but Kane refuses to resign. At the 1924 convention, the Democrats nominate William Gibbs McAdoo, prompting Kane to run for re-election as a third-party candidate on the ironically named centrist "Principles Party" line.

Meanwhile, the Republicans nominate Massachusetts governor Calvin Coolidge for President, drawing the ire of Progressives and inspiring Robert La Follette's run as a Progressive.

1924



Calvin Coolidge/ Charles G. Dawes 255 37%
William Gibbs McAdoo/Franklin D. Roosevelt 220 EV 33%
Robert M. La Follette/Burton K. Wheeler 56 EV 17%
Charles F. Kane/John W. Davis 0 EV 12%

After none of the candidates get a majority of the electoral vote, the election is thrown to the House. While Coolidge was expected to easily win the vote, defections from the Wisconsin, Minnesota, and North Dakota delegations along with abstentions from the Montana and Nebraska delegations meant he was elected with just one vote above a majority. Meanwhile, the House easily confirmed Charles G. Dawes as Vice President.
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« Reply #4783 on: September 23, 2015, 01:15:04 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2015, 04:46:31 PM by bagelman »

(these are based off a comedic series of point and click video games, not entirely serious)

2000:



✓ Lucas Blush (R-OR) / Fred Thompson (R-TN) 294 EV

President Bob Kerrey (D-NE) / Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) 244 EV


2004:



✓ Max Freelance (D-NY) / Gordon Spitzer (D-CA) 302 EV

Stanley A. Lincoln (R-DC) / Chuck Tyom (R-NJ) 125 EV (3rd in PV)

Ralph Nader (G-CT) / Peter Camejo (G-CA) 114 EV (2nd in PV)

Results from West Dakota:

✓ Stanley A. Lincoln (R-DC) / Chuck Tyom (R-NJ) 40% 3 EV

Ralph Nader (G-CT) / Peter Camejo (G-CA) 38% 0 EV

Max Freelance (D-NY) / Gordon Spitzer (D-CA) 19% 0 EV

Remainder: Other

2008:


✓ Acting President Donald "Superball" Bradley (D-VA) / Dick Gephardt (D-MO) 350 EV

Mike Huckabee (R-AR) / Rick Perry (R-TX) 177 EV

Gary Johnson (L-NM) / Bob Barr (L-GA) 11 EV

PJ "Whizzer" Jenkins (P-WD) / Gene Amondson (P-WA) 3 EV (won West Dakota by less than a percent)

Ralph Nader (G-CT) 0 EV
 
2012:


✓ President Superball (D-VA) / Vice President Gephardt (D-MO) 272 EV

Jerald "Peepers" Smathers (R-ND) / Chris Christie (R-NJ) 268 EV
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« Reply #4784 on: September 23, 2015, 02:17:36 PM »

Preposterous.
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« Reply #4785 on: September 23, 2015, 09:20:33 PM »
« Edited: September 25, 2015, 07:48:06 PM by bagelman »

Basing these maps off a reddit comment I found:

2016:



✓ Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) 280 EV

Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) / Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) 252 EV (appeared as Make America Great Again (MAGA) in UT and LA)

Fmr. Gov. John Huntsman Jr. (IR-UT) / Gov. Bobby Jindal (IR-LA) 6 EV (appeared as Republican in UT and LA)

2020:



✓ Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) / Fmr. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 321 EV

President Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Vice President Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) 217 EV

President Trump is deemed incapacitated in 2023

Marco Rubio is President from 2023-2025, declines nomination

2024:



✓ Teddy Betts (R-ID) / Rand Paul (R-KY)

Fmr. Vice President Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) / Michelle Obama (D-IL)

2028:



✓ President Teddy Betts (R-ID) / Vice President Rand Paul (R-KY)

Sen. Juan Hernandez / Rep. Kathleen Gates (D-VA)

2032:



✓ Sandy Bellmen (D-CA) / Mike Morsel (D-PA)

Craig Romney (R-UT) / George P. Bush (R-TX)


Presidents of the United States:

45. Bernie Sanders (Democrat-Vermont) 2017-2021
46. Donald Trump (Republican-New York) 2021-2023
47. Marco Rubio (Republican-Florida) 2023-2025
48. Ted "Teddy" Betts (Republican-Idaho) 2025-2033

49. Sandy Bellman (Democrat-California) 2033-


Teddy Betts is a libertarian from central-north Idaho. He was accused by primary opponents of believing in 9/11 conspiracy theories in 2023, and in 2028 faced an extremely unsuccessful primary challenge from political activist and former senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) over the largely dismissed issue. It was only in 2031, after the president ordered investigations into 9/11 related documents and figures, did he begin to arouse suspicion from neoconservatives and the remnants of the military industrial complex. That and his refusal to actively campaign for the Romney/Bush ticket has split the GOP during the Bellman presidency between supporters of the Betts presidency (who deny his belief in conspiracy theories as itself a conspiracy theory) and those who want a "new direction" similar to the Bush presidencies that predate Obama.

Sandy Bellman becomes the first female president and the first LGBT president when she takes office in 2033.

President Betts, President Bellman, Vice President Morsel, and the democratic ticket from '28 are all fictional.


Vice Presidents of the United States

48. Amy Klobuchar (Democrat-Minnesota) 2017-2021
49. Marco Rubio (Republican-Florida) 2021-2023
50. Jeb Bush (Republican-Florida) 2023-2025
51. Rand Paul (Republican-Kentucky) 2025-2033

52. Mike Morsel (Democrat-Pennsylvania) 2033-
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« Reply #4786 on: September 25, 2015, 02:19:32 PM »
« Edited: September 25, 2015, 05:18:32 PM by bagelman »

2016



✓ Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) 278 EV

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) / Dr. Ben Carson (R-MD) 260 EV

President Sanders is forced to resign in 2019 when it becomes clear he will face serious primary challengers due to moderate backlash against socialism within the Democratic party. President Warren does not run for election. The Democrats choose Sen. Brown to bridge the gap within their party, to retain as many liberals as possible.

2020



✓ Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) / Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) 354 EV

Businesswoman Carly Fiorina (R-CA) / Fmr. Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) 184

Fortunately for the democrats, the GOP is more divided than ever. Pundits agree that a Fiorina/Walker ticket would have won in 2016, but the GOP was simply too divided after the 2020 primaries to win.

Candidate Brown was successful at bridging the gap between liberals and moderates within the Democrats, but President Brown was much less successful when he undid some of President Sander's and President Warren's more radical reforms. More pressing was a simple desire for change after 16 straight years of progressive democratic rule.

2024:



✓ Gov. Rand Paul (R-KY) / Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-ID) 285+ EV

President Sherrod Brown (D-OH) / Vice President Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) 253- EV


Presidents of the United States:

45. Bernie Sanders (Democrat-Vermont) 2017-2019
46. Elizabeth Warren (Democrat-Massachusetts) 2019-2021
47. Sherrod Brown (Democrat-Ohio) 2021-2025

48. Rand Paul (Republican-Kentucky) 2025-
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« Reply #4787 on: September 25, 2015, 04:49:23 PM »

2000

Senator John McCain (R-AZ) / Representative John Kasich (R-OH): 301 Electoral Votes
Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) / Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 237 Electoral Votes

2004

President John McCain (R-AZ) / Vice President John Kasich (R-OH): 446 Electoral Votes
Former Governor Howard Dean (D-VT) / Former Senator Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL): 92 Electoral Votes

2008

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Former Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA): 390 Electoral Votes
Vice President John Kasich (R-OH) / Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA): 148 Electoral Votes

2012

President Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Vice President Sam Nunn (D-GA): 413 Electoral Votes
Former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) / Representative Michele Bachmann (R-MN): 125 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #4788 on: September 26, 2015, 08:18:10 AM »



✓ George Bush (R-TX) / Jack Kemp (R-NY)

President Jimmy Carter (D-GA) / Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)




✓ President George Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Jack Kemp (R-NY)

Gary Hart (D-CO) / John Glenn (D-OH) 97 EV



✓ Walter Mondale (D-MN) / Dick Gephardt (D-MO) 353

Pat Robertson (R-VA) / Alexander Haig (R-MD) 185



✓ President Walter Mondale (D-MN) / Vice President Dick Gephardt (D-MO) 275 EV

Bob Dole (R-KS) / Pierre S. du Pont IV (R-DE) 263 EV

(election decided by Ohio)



✓ Mario Cuomo (D-NY) / Bill Clinton (D-AR) 318 EV

Phil Gramm (R-TX) / Dan Quayle (R-IN) 220 EV



✓ George W. Bush (R-TX) / John Engler (R-MI) 287 EV

President Mario Cuomo / Vice President Bill Clinton 251 EV



✓ President George W. Bush (R-TX) / Vice President John Engler (R-MI) 369 EV

Al Gore (D-TN) / John Edwards (D-NC) 169 EV



✓ Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY) / Mark Warner (D-VA)

Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Sam Brownback (R-KS)



✓ President Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY) / Vice President Mark Warner (D-VA)

Michele Bachmann (R-MN) / Rick Santorum (R-PA)



Donald Trump (R-NY) / Jeff Sessions (R-AL) 186 safe EV

Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / TBA (D) 180 safe EV
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« Reply #4789 on: September 26, 2015, 02:37:30 PM »
« Edited: September 26, 2015, 02:50:41 PM by عبدالله الحظرد »



Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) / Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL): 43%; 271 Electoral Votes
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA): 41%; 261 Electoral Votes
Former Vice President Dick Cheney (I-WY) / Former Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT): 15%; 6 Electoral Votes

After a vicious Primary struggle, Donald Trump wins the Republican nomination, much to the horror of that party's leadership. Elements within the Republican establishment then draft former Vice President Dick Cheney to run as an independent. Cheney manages to gain ballot access in all fifty states and the District of Columbia. Cheney's platform combines a very hawkish foreign policy with a moderate stance on social issues; he attacks Trump from the left on immigration while denouncing both Trump and Clinton as "dangerously naïve" on national security issues. In a show of bipartisanship, he selects former Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman as his running mate.

With the Republican camp so divided, the Clinton camp takes it for granted that victory is inevitable, and most political analysts agree with this assessment. Consequently, Clinton runs the most cautious and inept campaign in recent memory, refusing to put forward any controversial issue positions, or even any clear positions at all; as a result, the Democratic candidate solidifies the public perception that she is an aloof, entitled, dishonest person who is running just because she wants to be President. Because of this, many Democrats stay home due to a combination of dissatisfaction with all three candidates and general apathy resulting from the widespread media narrative that Clinton is guaranteed to win in a landslide.

On Election Day, Donald Trump, who had been pronounced toast by every "credible" observer, shocks the world by winning both the popular and electoral votes. Clinton wins the lowest percentage of the popular vote for a Democrat since Walter Mondale. Cheney gets a respectable 15% of the vote, coming in first in Utah and in second in D.C., Idaho, and Wyoming, but in third everywhere else.
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« Reply #4790 on: September 26, 2015, 10:22:14 PM »

2012: For Eighteen Points Not Long Ago


308 - 230

Gov. Marco Rubio(R-FL)
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« Reply #4791 on: September 29, 2015, 05:59:08 PM »

2000 Election
√ Al Gore/Joe Lieberman: 292 (48.4%)
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney: 246 (47.9%)
Other: 0 (3.7%)

2004 Election
√ Al Gore/Joe Lieberman: 295 (51.3%)
Tom Ridge/Mike Huckabee: 243 (46.9%)
Other: 0 (1.8%)

Democratic Primary: '08
√ Sen. Hillary Clinton: 47.2% 27+PR
Gov. Howard Dean: 44.9% 20+US VI + DC
Vice Pres. Joe Lieberman: 7.1% 3+AS
Other: 0.8%

2008 Election
√ John McCain/John Kasich: 277 (49.8%)
Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh: 261 (48.9%)
Other: 0 (1.3%)

2012 Election
√ Howard Dean/Barack Obama: 272 (49.5%)
John Kasich/Jeb Bush: 266 (49.4%)
Other: 0 (1.1%)
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« Reply #4792 on: September 29, 2015, 06:48:33 PM »
« Edited: September 29, 2015, 10:14:31 PM by Bigby »

Isn't It Time America Had a President? James Buckley in '76!


Senator James L. Buckley (R - NY)/Senator Robert Taft, Jr. (R - OH): 429 EVs, 57.0% PV
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (D - MN)/Governor Jerry Brown (D - CA): 109 EVs, 41.4% PV
Senator Scoop M. Jackson (HD* - WA)/Governor Cliff Finch (HD - MS): 0 EVs, 1.1% PV
Others: 0 EVs, 0.5% PV

* Hawk Democrat.

Guess how this happens.
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« Reply #4793 on: September 29, 2015, 10:00:47 PM »



George McGovern (D-SD) 282 EV

President Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 256 EV



Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 399 EV

President George McGovern (D-SD) 139 EV
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« Reply #4794 on: September 30, 2015, 08:11:12 PM »



Hubert Humphrey (Liberal Democrat-MN) 308

George Wallace (Conservative Democrat-AL) 230



Richard Nixon (R-CA) 307

George Wallace (D-AL) 231
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« Reply #4795 on: October 01, 2015, 07:15:42 PM »

2004 Reform Party Primary

Jim Jeffords/Ed Zschau
Comprising the supposedly waning sane coastal wing of the party, these moderates coasted to election with large margins in big cities. Their base consists of disaffected liberals who voted for John Anderson in the 2000 primary, suburban voters turned off by the extremism and rhetoric of the other candidates, and New England moderates. They benefited from extremist vote splitting.
Donald Trump/Morry Taylor
The race's two most populist candidates outspent the winning ticket with their combined fortunes, but lacked the political saavy to pull off a win. Along with lack of experience, a number of gaffes doomed the campaign from the get-go. The Trump base consists of rust-belt blue collar voters, New England fiscal conservatives, and wealthy retirees.
Bob Dornan/Tom Tancredo
B1 Bob's right wing ticket attracted the western right-wing fringe vote that felt bad voting for a ticket with David Duke on it. These two appealed to strongly anti-immigrant sentiment and concerns about a growing government. Their base is made up of libertarian-leaning westerners,
Pat Buchanan/David Duke
The true Southern ticket performed well in the South but not up North. The party's race baiting and anti-NWO rhetoric gained them far right support. The base for this bloc is as expected, working class Southern populists, conspiracy theorists, etc.
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« Reply #4796 on: October 07, 2015, 12:27:09 AM »


Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA) 134EV
CEO Donald Trump (R-NY)/Fmr. Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) 140EV
Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) 83EV
Fmr. SoS. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Fmr. Sen. Joe Webb (D-VA) 181EV
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« Reply #4797 on: October 07, 2015, 07:24:13 AM »


Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA) 134EV
CEO Donald Trump (R-NY)/Fmr. Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) 140EV
Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) 83EV
Fmr. SoS. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Fmr. Sen. Joe Webb (D-VA) 181EV
I assume that Donald Trump would easily get elected President by the House of Representatives, whereas Jerry Brown would probably be elected Vice President by the Senate.
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« Reply #4798 on: October 08, 2015, 05:40:40 PM »

Clinton narrowly edges out Bush
√ Hillary Rodham Clinton/Tom Vilsack: 290 (50.1%)
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney: 248 (49.1%)

Despite economic turmoil, McCain/Clinton race is one of the most respectable campaigns in recent history
√ John McCain/Mitt Romney: 331 (52.7%)
Hillary Clinton/Tom Vilsack: 207 (45.4%)

McCain soundly defeats Former Secretary of State Kerry
√ John McCain/Mitt Romney: 363 (54.1%)
John Kerry/Howard Dean: 178 (44.7%)

Obama Makes History in Sweet '16
√ Barack Obama/Joe Manchin: 323 (52.9%)
Mitt Romney/Marco Rubio: 215 (46.0%)
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« Reply #4799 on: October 09, 2015, 02:35:40 AM »

1988:

Vice President Bush Beaten by Dole! Governor Cuomo Ousts Hart and Dukakis. Cumo Squeaks Victory Due to Poor GOP Enthusiasm.



Governor Mario Cuomo (D - NY)/Congressman Dick Gephardt (D - MO): 288 EVs, 52.1% PV
Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole (R - KS)/U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani (R-NY): 250 EVs, 47.4% PV

1992:

Gepdhardt Primaries Unpopular Cuomo, Wins With Moderate Platform. Perot Launches Reform Bid, Attracts Brown and Buchanan. Reform Party Sucks Up Votes From Both Sides; Dems Benefit Most.



Vice President Dick Gephardt (D - MO)/Senator Tom Harkin (D - IA): 301 EVs, 39% PV
NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R - NY)/Governor Dick Cheney (R - WY): 201 EVs, 36% PV
Fmr. Governor Jerry Brown (D - CA)/Columnist Pat Buchanan (R - VA): 36 EVs, 23.5% PV

1996:

Gephardt Unable to Rally Party. Proposed Surveillance Program After Failed CNN Building Bombing Derided by Public. Governor Goldwater Runs On "Liberty-Based Platform," Calls Proposed Surveillance Program "Akin to Yenayev's Soviet Ploys." Buchanan and Perot Run Reform Again; Not Nearly as Popular as Brown Run. Goldwater Wins In Landslide.



Governor Barry Goldwater, Jr. (R - CA)/Governor Mike Leavitt (R - UT): 412 EVs, 50% PV
President Dick Gephardt (D - MO)/Vice President Tom Harkin (D - IA): 126 EVs, 44.6% PV
Columnist Pat Buchanan (I - VA)/Businessman Ross Perot (I - TX): 0 EVs, 4.9% PV

2000:

President Goldwater Wins Landslide Election. Strong Economy, Public Happy With Civil Liberties Record. Reform Party Members Back Goldwater.



President Barry Goldwater (R - CA)/Vice President Mike Leavitt (R - UT): 431 EVs, 56.7% PV
Fmr. Vice President Tom Harkin (D - IA)/Governor Lincoln Chaffee (D - RI): 107 EVs, 42.9% PV
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