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« Reply #4450 on: December 26, 2014, 11:55:51 PM »

Alright, here we go:


Former Governor Jon Huntsman R/No Labels-UT/Senator Mark Warner D/No Labels284 EVS
Senator Elizabeth Warren D-MA/Senator Heidi Heitkamp D-ND 178 EVS
Senator Ted Cruz R-TX/Senator Jeff Flake R-AZ 76 EVS

I was doubting a bit on North Carolina. Without NC it's thrown into the House, though Huntsman easily runs away with a large portion of the popular vote. I'd estimate Huntsman 35% Warner 34% Cruz 31%.
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« Reply #4451 on: December 28, 2014, 06:10:42 PM »
« Edited: December 30, 2014, 01:41:08 AM by SPC »

1976: Reagan/Schweiker vs Carter/Mondale

326-212

1980: Ford/Dole vs Carter/Mondale

352-186

1984: Dole/Kemp vs Glenn/Graham

346-192

1988: Dole/Kemp vs Gore/Bradley

276-262

1992: Kemp/Simpson vs Gore/Bradley

369-169

1996: McCain/Quayle vs Bradley/Miller

304-234

2000: Romney/Whitman vs Bradley/Nunn

291-247

2004: Romney/Whitman vs Edwards/Vilsack

399-139

2008: Steele/Pawlenty vs Bayh/Jones

324-214
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« Reply #4452 on: December 30, 2014, 12:45:23 AM »

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Senator Clark L. Cross (D-NC)/Governor Violet C. McCollough (D-NY)
Governor Christopher W. "Chris" Cruz (R-UT)/Congresswoman Michelle P. Hoch (R-MN)
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« Reply #4453 on: December 31, 2014, 09:55:03 PM »



Guess what this map is. It's about a specific presidential election.
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« Reply #4454 on: December 31, 2014, 11:10:52 PM »



Guess what this map is. It's about a specific presidential election.

Hmmm, DC is there so its 1960+. A Democrat wins but without Hawaii, Arkansas, or Georgia so its not Obama, Clinton or Carter. Random guess but 1964 where JFK doesn't die, seeks reelections, and faces Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. in the general. Also, no civil rights act.
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« Reply #4455 on: January 02, 2015, 01:43:10 PM »

Clinton/Gore vs. Bush/Perot?
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« Reply #4456 on: January 02, 2015, 01:59:31 PM »



Guess what this map is. It's about a specific presidential election.

It's 1972. In blue states, Nixon won every county. In red states, McGovern won at least one county.
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« Reply #4457 on: January 02, 2015, 02:07:35 PM »

I'm thinking about making a timeline out of this:

2000

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX): 399 EVs (55% PV)
Vice Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 139 EVs (42% PV)

2004

Pres. John McCain (R-AZ)/Vice Pres. George W. Bush (R-TX): 495 EVs (57% PV)
Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC): 43 EVs (41% PV)

2008

Vice Pres. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA): 334 EVs (52% PV)
Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)/Fmr. Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT): 204 EVs (46% PV)
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« Reply #4458 on: January 02, 2015, 06:03:35 PM »



Reagan 1980 vs Romney 2012

(>30% corresponds to less than 3.6%, which is the difference between Reagan's percentage and Romney's percentage. All other shades are increments of 5%)

The same map, but this time comparing their performance with white voters:
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« Reply #4459 on: January 02, 2015, 11:51:00 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2015, 11:52:37 PM by badgate »

A SERIES OF UNSUCCESSFUL PRESIDENCIES

I. Midnight In America / 1984



Frmr. Vice President Walter Mondale / Frmr. West Virginia Governor Jay Rockefeller - 270
President Ronald Reagan / Vice President George H.W. Bush - 268


II. Mondale Revisited / 1988



President Walter Mondale / Vice President Jay Rockefeller - 139
Wisconsin Senator Bob Kasten / Frmr. Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld - 399


III. The Green Bay Massacre / 1992



Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton / New York Governor Mario Cuomo - 406
President Bob Kasten / Vice President Donald Rumsfeld - 132
Ross Perot / "Who Am I? Why Am I Here?" - 0


IV. Close Call / 1996



President Bill Clinton / Vice President Mario Cuomo - 276
General Colin Powell / Minnesota Governor Arne Carlson - 262


V. Millennium Maximus / 2000



Senator John Kerry / Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold - 260
Senator Mitt Romney / Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore - 278
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« Reply #4460 on: January 03, 2015, 08:19:15 AM »




Guess what this map is. It's about a specific presidential election.

It's 1972. In blue states, Nixon won every county. In red states, McGovern won at least one county.

Correct
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« Reply #4461 on: January 03, 2015, 11:18:47 AM »

1884 trend map:
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« Reply #4462 on: January 04, 2015, 07:47:41 AM »

2016


Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Julian Castro (D-TX) 323 (51.25%)
Mike Huckabee (R-AR) / John Kasich (R-OH) 215 (47.61%)
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« Reply #4463 on: January 04, 2015, 09:35:27 AM »

QUITE A DIFFERENT AMERICA

Point of divergence here is the Civil Rights Act being passed in the 50ies by an independent President Eisenhower. Neither Democrats nor Republicans realign themselves on civil right issues as they do OTL. The 60ies see Presidents Kennedy and Johnson as in OTL, the latter reelected in 1968. Civil Rights cease to be a big issue in the late 60ies, also in the South.

1972:



Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR) / Senator John Tower (R-TX) - 341 EVs

Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME) / Governor George Wallace (D-AL) - 197 EVs

1976:



President Mark Hatfield (R-OR) / Vice President John Tower (R-TX) - 312 EVs
Senator Sam Yorty (D-CA) / Representative Woody Jenkins (D-LA) - 226 EVs

1980:



Senator Robert Kennedy (D-MA) / Governor Charles Flinch (D-MS) - 381 EVs
Frmr Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD) / Senator Charles Percy (R-IL) - 157 EVs
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« Reply #4464 on: January 04, 2015, 03:17:55 PM »

QUITE A DIFFERENT AMERICA

Point of divergence here is the Civil Rights Act being passed in the 50ies by an independent President Eisenhower. Neither Democrats nor Republicans realign themselves on civil right issues as they do OTL. The 60ies see Presidents Kennedy and Johnson as in OTL, the latter reelected in 1968. Civil Rights cease to be a big issue in the late 60ies, also in the South.

Cool map series! It reminded me of one I did last year, where the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts aren't passed as in OTL, similar to what you did.

edited to add: I found it: link to A Divergent America
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« Reply #4465 on: January 05, 2015, 07:39:02 PM »

√ Clinton/Castro: 368 (53.4%)
Huckabee/Pence: 170 (45.0%)
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« Reply #4466 on: January 07, 2015, 12:30:48 AM »

QUITE A DIFFERENT AMERICA

Point of divergence here is the Civil Rights Act being passed in the 50ies by an independent President Eisenhower. Neither Democrats nor Republicans realign themselves on civil right issues as they do OTL. The 60ies see Presidents Kennedy and Johnson as in OTL, the latter reelected in 1968. Civil Rights cease to be a big issue in the late 60ies, also in the South.

Cool map series! It reminded me of one I did last year, where the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts aren't passed as in OTL, similar to what you did.

edited to add: I found it: link to A Divergent America

I also had a series of maps going where Lincoln survives and forces through a 16th Amendment granting the federal government sole jurisdiction over election law.  Obviously, there would never be a Compromise of 1877 and minority voting rights are strictly enforced from that point forward.  Women's suffrage also came earlier (I think 1889).
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« Reply #4467 on: January 07, 2015, 12:35:20 AM »

Here's the first part, with the collapse of the Democrats and rise of the Populists:

Lincoln narrowly survives at Ford's Theater.  From this point forward, he sides with the Radical Republicans on Reconstruction.  The 16th Amendment, ratified in 1868, gives the federal government sole authority over the conduct of elections.

1868




Charles Sumner/Schuyler Colfax 200 EV 53.9%
Horatio Seymour/Francis P. Blair 94 EV 46.1%

1872



Schuyler Colfax/William A. Wheeler 332 EV 59.1%
Andrew Johnson/Salmon P. Chase 20 EV 40.9%

With the help of the 16th Amendment, a Southern Democratic machine governments is successfully overthrown in Georgia.  Electors for Louisiana and Arkansas are also successfully disqualified due to equal protection violations there.

1876



Schuyler Colfax/William A. Wheeler 368 EV  68.7%

Horatio Seymour/Thomas Hendricks 1 EV* 31.3%
*A Kentucky elector defects to keep the George Washington tradition alive

1880



William A. Wheeler/Chester A. Arthur 187 EV 34.8%
James Garfield/James B. Weaver (Populist) 120 EV 39.1%
Grover Cleveland/Winfield Hancock 62 EV 26.1%

1884



James Garfield/James B. Weaver 256 EV 56.8%

William A. Wheeler/Chester A. Arthur 145 EV 43.2%

1886: The 17th Amendment is ratified, abolishing the electoral college

1888



James Garfield/James B. Weaver 60.3%
Chester A. Arthur/James G. Blaine 39.0%
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« Reply #4468 on: January 07, 2015, 12:38:24 AM »

And here's where it really picks up:

This might get a little too optimistic about social progress from here on, but might the real world events of the 1870's have cost us 100 years?

In 1890, the 18th Amendment passes, granting women voting rights and requiring protection of these rights through the 16th Amendment

1892



James B. Weaver/William Jennings Bryan 53.5%
Thomas Brackett Reed/Matthew Quay 45.0%

1896



William McKinley/Whitelaw Reid 51.6%
James B. Weaver/William Jennings Bryan 48.0%

1900



William Jennings Bryan/Adlai Stevenson 52.5%
William McKinley/Whitelaw Reid 47.1%

1904



William Jennings Bryan/Adlai Stevenson 57.8%
Alton B. Parker/Joseph B. Foraker 41.1%

1908



W.E.B. DuBois/Charles Evans Hughes 52.3%

Adlai Stevenson/Mary Ellen Lease 47.1%


1912




W.E.B. DuBois/Charles Evans Hughes 50.2%

John W. Kern/George Gray 48.8%

1916



Sara Ann Roosevelt/Robert La Follette 55.5%
Charles Evans Hughes/William Randolph Hearst 43.3%

1920




Sara Ann Roosevelt/Robert La Follette 61.2%

Charles G. Dawes/Herbert Hoover 37.1%
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« Reply #4469 on: January 07, 2015, 12:42:18 AM »

And the New Deal comes 15 years early:

Continuation of the Lincoln survives in 1865 scenario.

Nominated by acclamation, Sara Roosevelt runs for an unprecedented 3rd consecutive term.  During her first 8 years in office, she worked with congress to enact a broad spectrum of social insurance programs for the country, including the Child Labor Act of 1917, the Social Security and Farm Security Acts of 1918, the Electrification Act of 1919 and the Health Care Acts of 1921.  The 20th Amendment, ratified in 1918, explicitly authorizes federal social insurance programs.

1924



Sara Ann Roosevelt/Burton K. Wheeler   56.8%
William Cameron Sproul/Edward Edwards   42.7%   

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« Reply #4470 on: January 07, 2015, 01:55:23 AM »



Bob Dole 1996 39,198,755
George Bush 1992 39,104,550
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« Reply #4471 on: January 07, 2015, 02:37:03 PM »

√ McCain/Thompson: 300 (52.9%)
Clinton/Randell: 238 (46.2%)

√ Obama/Udall: 280 (50.8%)
McCain/Thompson: 258 (48.1%)

√ Pawlenty/Bondi: 308 (51.1%)
Obama/Udall: 230 (47.7%)

√ Pawlenty/Bondi: 352 (53.0%)
Newsom/O'Malley: 186 (45.7%)
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« Reply #4472 on: January 09, 2015, 11:25:09 AM »



Bush 2004 (48.5%) vs Obama 2012 (51.5%)

The closest states are Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania. Interestingly, Obama wins North Carolina by a greater margin than Michigan, and Virginia and Colorado by larger margins than Oregon and Minnesota.
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« Reply #4473 on: January 09, 2015, 04:35:04 PM »

QUITE A DIFFERENT AMERICA

Point of divergence here is the Civil Rights Act being passed in the 50ies by an independent President Eisenhower. Neither Democrats nor Republicans realign themselves on civil right issues as they do OTL. The 60ies see Presidents Kennedy and Johnson as in OTL, the latter reelected in 1968. Civil Rights cease to be a big issue in the late 60ies, also in the South.

Cool map series! It reminded me of one I did last year, where the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts aren't passed as in OTL, similar to what you did.

edited to add: I found it: link to A Divergent America

Aha - yeah it seems similar indeed. I intend to diverge from your series the further we get to the present, though. Wink

QUITE A DIFFERENT AMERICA, PART DEUX

1984:



President Robert Kennedy (D-MA) / Vice President Charles Flinch (D-MS) - 387 EVs 
Senator William Cohen (R-ME) / Senator Alan Simpson (R-WY) - 151 EVs

1988:



Secretary of Defense Alexander Haig (R-PA) / Frmr Director of the CIA George Bush (R-TX) - 434 EVs
Frmr Senator Gary Hart (D-CO) / Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 104 EVs

1992:



Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) / Representative Jack Kemp (R-NY) - 273 EVs
Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY) / Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) - 265 EVs
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« Reply #4474 on: January 10, 2015, 09:36:22 AM »

√ Romney/Paul: 281 (50.3%)
Clinton/Heinrich: 257 (48.6%)
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