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« Reply #4400 on: November 09, 2014, 05:30:08 PM »

√ Walker/Rice: 278 (49.15%)
Clinton/Castro: 260 (49.04%)
Other: 0 (1.81%)


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« Reply #4401 on: November 09, 2014, 07:29:06 PM »

^Condoleezza Rice?
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« Reply #4402 on: November 09, 2014, 09:07:00 PM »

Bush Holds On: The Unresolved Election
√ Bush/Quayle: 271 (47.8%)
Clinton/Brown: 267 (47.4%)
Perot/Stockdale: 0 (4.6%)
Other: 0 (0.2%)

The Base Cracks: Clinton's Comeback
√ Clinton/Kerrey: 339 (51.0%)
Quayle/Alexander: 199 (47.6%)
Other: 0 (1.4%)

No More Moderates: Clinton's Landslide
√ Clinton/Kerrey: 459 (60.9%)
Buchanan/Keyes: 79 (36.6%)
Other: 0 (2.5%)

America at War: Clinton's America Holds
√ Kerrey/Tsongas: 392  (53.5%)
Perry/Dole: 146 (44.4%)
Other: 0 (1.9%)

Kerrey Barely Hangs On: The Shifting Tide
√ Kerry/Tsongas: 270 (49.1%)
Huntsman/Snowe: 268 (49.7%)
Other: 0 (1.2%)

The Republicans Get Their Act Together: Forecast of Snowe
√ Snowe/Thompson: 346 (52.9%)
Dean/Kerry: 192 (45.0%)
Other: 0 (2.1%)
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« Reply #4403 on: November 11, 2014, 10:07:59 PM »

1992: Bush declines to run again
In this TL, President Bush decides he should not run again, as a result there is a contentious battle for the GOP nomination between Bob Dole, Dan Quayle and Pat Buchanan leading to a brokered convention. After several ballots, Bob Dole comes out ahead and Phil Gramm is nominated for Vice-President. This infuriates many Republicans and Pat Buchanan annouces he will be running with Ross Perot as his Vice-Presidential nominee.


Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 238EV
Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS)/Sen. Phil Gramm (R-TX) 143EV
Ross Perot (I-TX)/Pat Buchanan (R-DC) 157EV
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« Reply #4404 on: November 11, 2014, 10:56:20 PM »

All Ears! Perot Wins in '92
√ (I) Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 372 (39.0%)
(D) Jerry Brown/Sam Nunn: 112 (34.3%)
(R) George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle: 54 (24.7%)

Perot Sinks; Clinton to the Rescue
√ (D) Clinton/Gore: 450 (44.5%)
(R) Bob Dole/Jack Kemp: 85 (39.9%)
(RF) Perot/Stockdale: 3 (14.6%)

Clinton Wins Reelection
√ (D) Clinton/Gore: 355 (49.9%)
(R) McCain/Thompson: 183 (45.5%)
(RF) Buchanan/Keyes: 0 (3.8%)

A Bush Wins The White House Back
√ Jeb Bush/Kay Bailey Hutchison: 278 (49.0%)
Al Gore/Tom Harkin: 260 (48.3%)
Other: 0 (2.7%)

50 Percent Hurdle Cleared!
Bush/Hutchison: 301 (51.0%)
Ed Randell/Howard Dean: 237 (46.4%)
Other: 0 (2.6%)

History Made
√ Hutchison/Ryan: 284 (50.0%)
Shaheen/Brown: 254 (48.5%)
Other: 0 (1.5%)
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« Reply #4405 on: November 12, 2014, 10:30:38 PM »

Bush vs. Dean: 2004 Election
√ Pres. Bush/Vice Pres. Cheney: 356 (52.5%)
Gov. Dean/Sen. Edwards: 182 (45.7%)

Kennedy vs. McCain: 2008 Election
√ Sen. Kennedy/Gen. Clark: 338 (51.7%)
Sen. McCain/Sen. Hutchison: 200 (47.3%)

Kennedy vs. Romney: 2012 Eleciton
√ Pres. Kennedy/Vice Pres. Clark: 289 (50.8%)
Gov. Romney/Sen. Portman: 249 (48.5%)

Bush vs. Warner: 2016 Election
√ Sen. Jeb Bush/Gov. Susana Martinez: 283 (51.1%)
Sen. Mark Warner/Sen. John Kerry: 255 (47.9%)

Martinez vs. Patrick: 2020 Election
√ Vice Pres. Susana Martinez/Rep. Paul Ryan: 300 (50.1%)
Gov. Deval Patrick/Sen. Bruce Braley: 238 (48.9%)
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« Reply #4406 on: November 16, 2014, 08:08:29 PM »

'92: Bush Declines to Run
√ Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 346 (51.9%)
Dan Quayle/Jack Kemp: 192 (47.0%)
Other: 0 (1.2%)

'96: Clinton Soundly Defeats Powell
√ Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 403 (55.0%)
Colin Powell/Lamar Alexander: 135 (43.9%)
Other: 0 (1.1%)

'00: Gore Defeats Bush
√ Al Gore/Joe Lieberman: 292 (49.9%)
George Bush/Dick Cheney: 246 (48.7%)
Other: 0 (1.4%)

'04: McCain Edges out Gore for a Second Term
√ John McCain/Elizabeth Dole: 278 (49.4%)
Al Gore/Joe Lieberman: 260 (49.1%)
Other: 0 (1.5%)

'08: McCain Routes Dean
√ John McCain/Tim Pawlenty: 416 (57.6%)
Howard Dean/Barbara Boxer: 122 (41.3%)
Other: 0 (1.0%)

'12: Despite a popular McCain, Clinton trumps Pawlenty
√ Hillary Clinton/Anthony Foxx: 275 (49.5%)
Tim Pawlenty/Jeb Bush: 263 (49.4%)
Other: 0 (1.1%)

'16: Steele Makes History
√ Michael Steele/Brian Sandoval: 269 (49.6%)
Hillary Clinton/Anthony Foxx: 266 (49.5%)
*Steele Elected by the House of Representatives, Foxx by the Senate.

'20: Foxx Resigns VP but Steele still wins
√ Michael Steele/Brian Sandoval: 273 (49.7%)
Anthony Foxx/Amy Klobuchar: 265 (49.5%)
Other: 0 (0.8%)

'24: Sandoval beats Kennedy
√ Brian Sandoval/Bill Haslam: ≈296 (50.5%)
Joseph P. Kennedy/Antonio Villaraigosa: ≈242 (48.2%)
Other: 0 (1.3%)
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« Reply #4407 on: November 17, 2014, 11:57:51 PM »

2012 Republican Primaries:

Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Spkr. Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)

Brokered convention leads to a Gov. Mitch Daniels (R-IN)/Gov. Gary Johnson (R/L-NM) ticket, unifying both branches of the party.

2012 General Election:


Gov. Mitch Daniels (R-IN)/Gov. Gary Johnson (R-NM) 296EV
Pres. Barack Obama (D-IL)/VP. Joe Biden (D-IL) 242EV
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« Reply #4408 on: November 23, 2014, 09:39:02 AM »



Clinton 323 37.4%
Perot 161 32.9%
Bush 54 29.0%
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« Reply #4409 on: November 23, 2014, 05:52:23 PM »

√ Bush/Portman: 272 (49.5%)
Clinton/Heinrich: 266 (49.3%)
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« Reply #4410 on: November 23, 2014, 06:11:34 PM »

2016:


Fmr. SoS. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Sec. Julian Castro (D-TX) 299EV
Fmr. Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL)/Gov. Greg Abbott (R-TX) 229EV
Fmr. Rep. Ron Paul (L-TX)/Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM) 10EV
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« Reply #4411 on: November 23, 2014, 06:35:17 PM »

2024



Senator Gwen Graham (D-FL)/Senator Julian Castro (D-TX) - 46.9%, ~ 294 EV's
Governor Ashley Swearengin (R-CA)/Senator Bob Dold (R-IL) - 45.3%, ~ 244 EV's
Others - 7.8%
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« Reply #4412 on: November 30, 2014, 09:27:10 AM »




√ Clinton/Castro: 303 (51.0%)
Christie/Martinez: 235 (47.1%)
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« Reply #4413 on: December 01, 2014, 01:44:29 AM »

2016



Fmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/Hawaii Senator Brian Schatz 371 (50.2%)
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul/Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker 158 (43.0%)
South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham/New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayotte (6.1%)
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« Reply #4414 on: December 01, 2014, 02:25:51 PM »

1968 goes to Congress:

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« Reply #4415 on: December 01, 2014, 04:01:45 PM »

The Darkest Timeline: Moderate Heroism

1992 Presidential Election
Perot runs a perfect campaign, nearly ties the popular vote and sends the election to Congress. The Democratic-controlled congress selects Clinton and Gore as President and Vice President.



Bill Clinton/Al Gore 35%, 255 EVs
Ross Perot/James Stockdale 34%, 171 EVs
George Bush/Dan Quayle 29%, 112 EVs

Interim
Ross Perot, furious that he lost such a close election, hires an army of political of consultants and dumps a massive amount of personal fortune into founding a new political party, the Reform Party, ordering his surrogates to "shake the bastards up." The 1994 midterms are historic in the number of defeated incumbents, with the Reform party electing dozens of representatives to the US house and winning a handful of senate and gubernatorial races.

In 1995, Ross Perot suffers a stroke. Unable to run for president himself, he persuades Colin Powell to run on the Reform ticket. Powell is easily nominated and selects Jim Jeffords, the Vermont Senator who recently switched from the Republican to Reform Party, as his running mate.

1996 Presidential Election
In a historic election, Colin Powell becomes America's first black president and first president elected from a new party since Abraham Lincoln in 1996. His coattails bring in a significant number of Reform congressmen, enough to form working coalitions with the Republican and Democratic stalwarts.



Colin Powell/Jim Jeffords 40%, 317 EVs
Bill Clinton/Al Gore 33%, 108 EVs
Bob Dole/Jack Kemp 25%, 113 EVs

Interim
At this point, the Reform party is the party of Serious People. Everyone who subscribes to The Economist and watches CNN for the analysis is excited to have a party with Real Solutions willing Reach Across The Aisle to pass Bipartisan Deals. The Republican Party is a husk of its former self, reduced to the political wing of the Southern Baptist Convention (with an uneasy alliance with Those Mormons) and party of choice of the growing militia movement, located primarily in the mountain west, who are not all to happy about having One of Them in the "White" House. The Democratic Party has also been decimated, and after losing many of its liberal/moderate funders is now essentially the AFL-CIO's party, with all the loss of power that implies.

2000 Presidential Election
President Powell easily wins reelection. Gore's selection of Ted Kennedy as his running mate is not as helpful as The Pundits expect, while the Buchanan/Gingrich ticket proved absolutely farcical. Enough Reform congressmen and senators are elected to give Powell majorities in both houses, allowing the Reform party to discard with the coalition politics which had defined his first term in office.



Colin Powell/Jim Jeffords 44%, 348 EVs
Al Gore/Ted Kennedy 35%, 103 EVs
Pat Buchanan/Newt Gingrich 20%, 87 EVs

Aftermath
By 2016, the US is a one-party state, ruled by President Hillary Clinton and Vice President Andrew Cuomo of the Reform Party with an iron fist. Support of charter schools, low taxes, fracking, humanitarian interventionism, gay marriage, and HillaryCare are the default politics of the average American. The political junkies are looking forward to 2020, with Silicon Valley titan Larry Page and Wall Street favorite Steve Cohen look like the favorites going into the Reform Party primary, which of course elects the President in all but name. Who will the brave citizens of Iowa choose?
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« Reply #4416 on: December 01, 2014, 07:20:58 PM »

Why would Hillary Clinton join the party that ousted her husband? (Okay, I suppose my question presupposes a degree of loyalty in a couple that is power-hungry, but you get the idea)
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« Reply #4417 on: December 02, 2014, 12:49:15 PM »

2016



Walker/Toomey 311 EV 50.8%
Clinton/Hassan 227 EV 47.8%

Closest States:

Virginia: Walker/Toomey 49.4% Clinton/Hassan 49.0%
New Hampshire: Clinton/Hassan 49.5% Walker/Toomey 48.9%
Pennsylvania: Walker/Toomey 49.6% Clinton/Hassan 48.7%
ME CD-02: Clinton/Hassan 48.4% Walker/Toomey 47.4%
Nevada: Clinton/Hassan 49.8% Walker/Toomey 48.5%
Wisconsin (decides election): Walker/Toomey 50.2% Clinton/Hassan 48.4%
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« Reply #4418 on: December 02, 2014, 01:32:49 PM »

Modified Political Decapitation

The candidates that finished first and second in a state are removed in this series. In the event that only two candidates are on the ballot, only the first place finisher is removed. Some of the candidates and party names have been modified to make this make a bit more sense.

1840



James G. Birney (Liberty): 144
Martin Van Buren (Democratic): 102
William H. Harrison (Whig)Sad 48

No electoral majority. House of Representatives votes to re-elect President Van Buren.

1844



James G. Birney (Liberty): 175
Henry Clay (Whig): 67
James K. Polk (Democratic): 33

1848



James G. Birney (Liberty): 200
Zachary Taylor (Whig): 46
Lewis Cass (Democratic): 44

1852



John Parker Hale (Liberty): 228
Winfield Scott (Whig): 56
Franklin Pierce (Democratic): 12

1856



Millard Fillmore (American/Whig): 281
John C. Fremont (Liberty): 15
James Buchanan (Democratic): 0

1860



Stephen Douglas (People's): 238
John Bell (Constitutional Union): 55
Abraham Lincoln (Liberty): 10

Presidents of the United States
8. Martin Van Buren (Democratic): March 4, 1837 - March 4, 1845
9. James G. Birney (Liberty): March 4, 1845 - March 4, 1853
10. John P. Hale (Liberty): March 4, 1853 - March 4, 1857
11. Millard Fillmore (Whig/American): March 4, 1857 - March 4, 1861
12. Stephen Douglas (People's): March 4, 1861 - June 3, 1861*
13. John Breckinridge (People's): June 3, 1861 -

*Died in office.
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« Reply #4419 on: December 02, 2014, 02:03:47 PM »

1864



George B. McClellan (Democratic): 197
Abraham Lincoln (National Union): 21*
John C. Fremont (Liberty)Sad 15

*Merger of conservative elements of the Liberty Party with the Constitutional Union Party (which was, itself, a merger of the Whig and American parties in 1860).

1868



George B. McClellan (Democratic): 186
Ulysses S. Grant (Unionist): 80
Various candidates (Liberty): 28

1872



Charles O'Conor (People's (Reform)/Liberty): 227
Horace Greeley (People's): 94
Ulysses Grant (Unionist): 31

1876



Peter Cooper (Liberal): 248
Charles O'Conor (Reform): 71
Samuel Tilden (People's): 50

1876 saw a general political realignment that virtually swept away the previous party alignment of the country. After decades of instability in the ranks, the Liberty Party finally collapsed, with its remaining conservative elements merging with the reform faction of the People's Party and the Unionists to form the new Reform Party. The remnants of the Liberty Party merged with political radicals in the Greenback movement, as well as left-leaning members of both the People's and Unionist parties to form the Liberal Party, a new party committed to justice for the farmer and the petty producer.

1880



James B. Weaver (Liberal): 332
James A. Garfield (Reform/People's): 37
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« Reply #4420 on: December 02, 2014, 03:38:11 PM »



Portman/Baker 60% 495
Clinton/Mabus 34% 43
Sanders/Snowden 3%
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« Reply #4421 on: December 02, 2014, 04:34:28 PM »



Portman/Baker 60% 495
Clinton/Mabus 34% 43
Sanders/Snowden 3%


Please, Lord, let this happen.
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« Reply #4422 on: December 03, 2014, 05:42:05 PM »

2004 (Bush vs Edwards):

President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY): 323 Electoral Votes (51.7%)
Senator John Edwards (D-NC)/Former General Wesley Clark (D-AR): 215 Electoral Votes (47.3%)
Others (Libertarian, Green, Socialist Workers, etc.) 0 Electoral Votes (1%)
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« Reply #4423 on: December 06, 2014, 01:41:42 PM »

√ Mitt Romney/Marco Rubio: 291 (51.0%)
Martin O'Malley/Amy Klobuchar: 247 (47.6%)
Other: 1.4%
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« Reply #4424 on: December 06, 2014, 02:36:28 PM »

Romney's the One!



Romney/Hogan 43.4% 274
Clinton/Klobuchar 42.7% 232
Cruz/LePage 13.5% 32
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