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« Reply #4350 on: September 08, 2014, 09:14:27 PM »

2016: GOP Falls Apart, Democrats Hold Together
√ (D) Joe Manchin/Claire McCaskill: 435 (54.8%)
(R) Ted Cruz/Scott Walker: 103 (43.5%)

Hillary Clinton opts out of the race for President, opening up the race on the Democratic side. A fractured field allows Joe Manchin to come from behind in Iowa and New Hampshire and thus win the nomination,. On the Republican side, an equally divided field comes down to Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz, with Cruz narrowly eking out a at the end of the primary. Despite a fragile economy, Cruz ran to the right, and was crushed by the Manchin/McCaskill ticket.

The Party of Brian

√ (R) Brian Sandoval/Pat Toomey: 276 (49.0%)
(D) Jason Carter/Amy Klobuchar: 264 (48.1%)
Other: 0 (2.9%)

Both President Manchin and Vice President McCaskill opt out of running in 2020, calling on a new age of leadership, once more opening up the field. Georgia Governor Jason Carter, Grandson of former President Jimmy Carter, secured the nomination. On the GOP side, Republicans eager to win back control of the White House turn to Nevada Senator Brian Sandoval and Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey to lead the party back to victory. In a close contest the state of Pennsylvania puts Sandoval over the top, electing him the 46th President of the United States.

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« Reply #4351 on: September 08, 2014, 09:52:30 PM »

2016 Republican Presidential Primaries



Jeb Bush - Red
Rand Paul - Blue
Jeff Sessions - Green
Ben Carson - Yellow
Rob Portman - Orange
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« Reply #4352 on: September 11, 2014, 12:26:05 AM »

Four More Years
1992:

Pres. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/VP. Dan Quayle (R-IN) 275EV
Gov. William Clinton (D-AR)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 259EV
Mr. H Ross Perot (I-TX)/Fmr. Vice-Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA) 4EV

1996:

Mr. Pat Buchanan (R-DC)/Sen. Richard Santorum (R-PA) 242EV
Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE) 296EV

2000:

Fmr. VP. Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Fmr. Sec. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 314EV
Pres. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/VP. Bob Kerrey (D-NE) 224EV

2004:

Pres. Dan Quayle (R-IN)/VP. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 269EV
Fmr. Sen. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) 269EV*
*Elected by Democratic House and Senate

2008:

Fmr. Pres. Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)* 391EV
Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/VP. Bill Nelson (D-FL) 147EV
*Elizabeth Dole declined renomination, citing age
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« Reply #4353 on: September 11, 2014, 08:16:48 PM »

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Howard Dean/Wesley Clark: 270 (49.11%)
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney: 268 (49.51%)

John McCain/Jon Huntsman: 366 (53.1%)
Howard Dean/Wesley Clark: 172 (45.3%)
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« Reply #4354 on: September 12, 2014, 03:07:52 PM »

Maybe a future timeline...we'll see.
2 Non-Consecutive Terms


√ Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush: 497 (51.7%)
Ted Kennedy/Robert Byrd: 41 (40.0%)
John Anderson/Pat Lucey: 0 (7.3%)

√ George H.W. Bush/Robert Dole: 408 (53.9%)
Gary Hart/Geraldine Ferraro: 130 (44.9%)

√ Bill Clinton/Mario Cuomo: 288 (50.3%)
(R) Robert Dole/Dan Quayle: 250 (48.4%)

√ Colin Powell/Jack Kemp: 340 (45.0%)
Mario Cuomo/Al Gore: 198 (43.8%)
Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 0 (10.5%)

√ Jack Kemp/John McCain: 270 (49.1%)
Bob Kerrey/Dianne Feinstein: 268 (49.0%)

√ Bill Clinton/Howard Dean: 309 (51.0%)
John McCain/George W. Bush: 229 (48.0%)

√ George W. Bush/Elizabeth Dole: 290 (50.2%)
Howard Dean/John Kerry: 248 (48.6%)


√ Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama: 311 (50.9%)
Elizabeth Dole/Rudy Giuliani: 227 (47.7%)

√ Mitt Romney/Rob Portman: 285 (50.1%)
Barack Obama/Evan Bayh: 253 (48.4%)

22nd Amendment: Prohibits no man from serving as President for more than two [non-consecutive] terms.

33. Harry Truman: 1945-1953
34. Dwight Eisenhower: 1953-1957
35. Richard Nixon: 1957-1961

36. John F. Kennedy: 1961-1963*
37. Lyndon Johnson: 1963-1969

38. Richard Nixon: 1969-1973
39. Spiro Agnew: 1973-1974**
40. Nelson Rockefeller: 1974-1977

40. Jimmy Carter: 1977-1981
41. Ronald Reagan: 1981-1985
42. George H.W. Bush: 1985-1989

43. Bill Clinton: 1989-1993
44. Colin Powell: 1993-1997
45. Jack Kemp: 1997-2001

46. Bill Clinton: 2001-2005
47. George W. Bush: 2005-2009
48. Hillary Clinton: 2009-2013
49. Mitt Romney: 2013-2017

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« Reply #4355 on: September 13, 2014, 01:04:13 PM »

√ Hillary Clinton: 12,311,467 (57.4%)
Martin O' Malley: 4,531,433 (21.1%)
Bernie Sanders: 4,132,003 (19.3%)
Other: 456,333 (2.2%)

√ Rand Paul: 8,301,332 (34.9%)
Chris Christie: 7,652,111 (32.2%)
Ted Cruz: 5,894,331 (24.8%)
Marco Rubio: 1,451,943 (6.1%)
Other: 499,888 (2.0%)

√ (R) Rand Paul/Susana Martinez: 283 (48.9%)
(D) Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner: 248 (46.7%)
(I) Bernie Sanders/Angus King: 7 (4.0%)
Other: 0 (0.4%)
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« Reply #4356 on: September 13, 2014, 05:37:57 PM »


√ (D) Hillary Clinton/Jay Nixon: 270 (38.0%)
(I) Jon Huntsman/Joe Manchin: 177 (33.6%)
(R) Ted Cruz/Mike Lee: 91 (27.7%)
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« Reply #4357 on: September 14, 2014, 05:53:09 PM »

√ Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 422 (50.0%)
Dan Quayle/Bob Dole: 116 (30.9%)
Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 0 (18.1%)
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« Reply #4358 on: September 16, 2014, 08:00:50 PM »


McKinley- 248
Bryan- 153
John M. Palmer- 46
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« Reply #4359 on: September 16, 2014, 08:30:44 PM »

√ Theodore Roosevelt: 368 (52.1%)
Woodrow Wilson: 163 (46.9%)

√ Theodore Roosevelt: 346 (51.7%)
Oscar Underwood: 185 (47.1%)

√ Leonard Wood: 404 (61.4%)
James Cox: 127 (36.9%)

√ Leonard Wood: 315 (51.0%)
Samuel Ralston: 216 (48.3%)

√ Calvin Coolidge: 422 (60.6%)
Alfred E. Smith: 109 (38.4%)

√ Franklin Roosevelt: 508 (61.0%)
Calvin Coolidge: 23 (37.7%)

√ Franklin Roosevelt: 523 (61.5%)
Alfred Landon: 8 (37.2%)

√ Franklin Roosevelt: 413 (57.3%)
Herbert Hoover: 118 (42.4%)

√ Franklin Roosevelt: 432 (53.4%)
Thomas Dewey: 99 (45.9%)

√ Franklin Roosevelt: 381 (52.3%)
Thomas Dewey: 150 (46.8%)

√ Robert Taft: 306 (50.8%)
Adlai Stevenson: 225 (48.1%)

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« Reply #4360 on: September 19, 2014, 09:39:32 AM »
« Edited: July 10, 2015, 07:54:19 PM by MATTROSE94 »

1976:

Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA)/Former Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA): 361 Electoral Votes 53%
Former Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Richard Schweiker (R-PA): 177 Electoral Votes 45%
Others (Libertarian, American Independent, Communist, Socialist Workers, Etc.): 0 Electoral Votes 2%
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« Reply #4361 on: September 19, 2014, 09:51:19 AM »
« Edited: July 10, 2015, 07:54:58 PM by MATTROSE94 »

1984 (George Wallace somehow gets the Democratic nomination):

President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice-President George H.W. Bush (R-TX): 467 Electoral Votes 59.5%
Governor George Wallace (D-AL)/Senator Ernest Hollings (D-SC): 71 Electoral Votes 39.1%
Others (Libertarian, Communist, Socialist Workers, New Alliance, Etc.): 1.4%
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« Reply #4362 on: September 21, 2014, 08:26:27 AM »

(I) Jon Huntsman/Joe Manchin: 300 (39.7%)
(D) Martin O'Malley/Elizabeth Warren: 132 (32.6%)
(R) Ted Cruz/Tim Scott: 106 (26.7%)
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« Reply #4363 on: September 22, 2014, 02:57:47 PM »
« Edited: September 22, 2014, 05:13:29 PM by Skill and Chance »

Continuation of the Lincoln survives in 1865 scenario.

Nominated by acclamation, Sara Roosevelt runs for an unprecedented 3rd consecutive term.  During her first 8 years in office, she worked with congress to enact a broad spectrum of social insurance programs for the country, including the Child Labor Act of 1917, the Social Security and Farm Security Acts of 1918, the Electrification Act of 1919 and the Health Care Acts of 1921.  The 20th Amendment, ratified in 1918, explicitly authorizes federal social insurance programs.

1924



Sara Ann Roosevelt/Burton K. Wheeler   56.8%
William Cameron Sproul/Edward Edwards   42.7%   
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« Reply #4364 on: September 22, 2014, 06:09:09 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2014, 11:59:55 PM by Skill and Chance »

1928



Burton K. Wheeler/John Nance Garner 55.0%
Andrew Mellon/C. Blascom Slemp 43.8%

The 21st Amendment is ratified in 1930, limiting the president to a total of 3 terms, consecutive or non-consecutive.

1932



Burton K. Wheeler/John Nance Garner 58.9%
Charles L. McNary/Calvin Coolidge 40.6%

The stock market crash begins in January, 1934.

1936



Herbert Hoover/Thomas Gore 60.1%
John L. Lewis/Frank Murphy 38.5%

1940



Herbert Hoover/Thomas Gore 61.4%
Henry Wallace/Frances Perkins 38.1%

The US enters WWII in May of 1941.



Herbert Hoover/Margaret Chase Smith 62.8%
Alben W. Barkley/Adlai Stevenson 36.8%

Allied victory in WWII gives Hoover the largest landslide in the history of the Republican/Populist party system.  He becomes the only president ever to win all his terms with more than 60% of the vote.

1948



Margaret Chase Smith/Douglas MacArthur 51.2%
Henry Wallace/Robert H. Jackson 48.1%

1952



Margaret Chase Smith/William F. Knowland 53.1%
Irving Ives/Dennis Chavez 46.4%

1956



Frank Clement/Mike Monroney  50.3%
Margaret Chase Smith/William F. Knowland 48.5%

36 year-old Frank Clement defeats an incumbent president for the first time since 1900.

1960



Everett Dirksen/John M. Butler 49.4%
Frank Clement/Mike Monroney 49.2%
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« Reply #4365 on: September 23, 2014, 09:01:23 PM »

√ Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine: 270 (49.3%)
Mitt Romney/Brian Sandoval: 268 (49.5%)

√ Brian Sandoval/Kelly Ayotte: 285 (50.7%)
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine: 253 (47.9%)
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« Reply #4366 on: September 24, 2014, 01:41:10 PM »

√ Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro: 319 (50.9%)
Rand Paul/Kelly Ayotte: 219 (47.8%)
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« Reply #4367 on: October 01, 2014, 06:30:38 AM »
« Edited: October 02, 2014, 03:08:22 PM by heatmaster »

Here's my take on the final result for Election Day 2012.

The Final Electoral Vote is
Romney-Pawlenty 469 from 45 states
Sebelius-Obama 69 from 5 states.
I don't have a percentage break-down, probably 58% for Romney.
Republicans pick up 5 house seats as well.
The Senate remains Democrat.
I could be wrong in the way I overestimated Romney's appeal, but a combination of a recovering Economy, Bin Laden been wasted, Hurricane Sandy and Sebelius being an unknown quantity - despite the novelty of her being the first woman to lead a major party ticket, I think I may be on the money.
I would assume that Obama is probably likely to run in 2016, though he has a Senate seat he needs to defend.
As for the Republicans, Pawlenty as the Incumbent Vice President will have more of a advantage going into 2016, however both Marco Rubio and Rand Paul could still represent problems from his right-flank and Romney is likely to confront problems with the ISIS as is the case in RTL. I don't think whatever Romney does with Putin over Ukraine will change the dynamics very much. Though NATO and Europe buttressed by Romney and probably with John McCain at the State Department will probably have more of a robust response than is currently the case. I think by October 2014, things will be no more of a bed of roses for Romney as currently the case.

NH1 inspired me to post this map. I know this map could be overestimating Romney's support. I would concede that Sebelius may well pull California into her column and also bring Washington State and maybe Oregon - but that could very well go for Romney. However, I think New Jersey would go for Romney as easily as it might for Christie. Pennsylvania in a good "Romney Economy" will plump for Romney and is not "fools gold". I have to laugh at Democrats, they have no problem in giving Obama landslides, yet when us Republicans do likewise for whomever we have running,  we are rendered "Mad" or have "taken leave of our senses" It appears Democrats want it all there own way. I allow Democrat trolls there indulgences. So if Obama can sweep the country, then so can Romney or Christie or Jeb. By the way as Sebelius comes from Kansas, and she likely is unable to carry her own back yard, then it's likely she's getting creamed by Romney☺
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« Reply #4368 on: October 01, 2014, 07:44:12 PM »

Third Time's The Charm
√ Mitt Romney/Kelly Ayotte: 285 (49.7%)
Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro: 253 (48.9%)
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« Reply #4369 on: October 05, 2014, 05:28:41 PM »

√ Newt Gingrich/Marco Rubio: 275 (66,745,953) (49.9%)
Barack Obama/Joe Biden: 263 (65,996,899) (49.3%)

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« Reply #4370 on: October 05, 2014, 05:29:23 PM »



This map refers to education and darker states have more.
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« Reply #4371 on: October 05, 2014, 08:54:42 PM »

A Different World

1964: Rematch
√ John F. Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson: 327 (51.8%)
Richard Nixon/William Scranton: 211 (48.0%)

1968: LBJ v Goldwater
√ Barry Goldwater/Nelson Rockefeller: 323 (50.9%)
Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey: 215 (48.1%)

1972: It's Barry in a Landslide
√ Barry Goldwater/Nelson Rockefeller: 379 (56.9%)
Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie: 159 (42.8%)
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« Reply #4372 on: October 05, 2014, 10:21:51 PM »
« Edited: October 05, 2014, 10:24:48 PM by Illuminati Blood Drinker »

Calculating the results in 1968 based upon Wallace's peak in mid-September, using this method set out by user "Plumber" over on AH.com...



...turns out to mean absolutely dick-all due to Humphrey's implosion (he drops by nearly 12 and a half percentage points).

√ Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 46.6%, 449 EVs
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-OH): 22.7%, 64 EVs
Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 30.3%, 25 EVs
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« Reply #4373 on: October 06, 2014, 09:53:49 AM »

1976: Bayh v. Rocky
√ Birch Bayh/Jimmy Carter: 273 (49.6%)
Nelson Rockefeller/Ronald Reagan: 265 (49.5%)

1980: Refocusing: Bush v. Bayh
√ George H.W. Bush/Robert Dole: 401 (55.4%)
Birch Bayh/Jimmy Carter: 137 (43.9%)

1984: A Kinder, Gentler America
√ George H.W. Bush/Robert Dole: 462 (57.1%)
Edward M. Kennedy/Walter Mondale: 76 (41.9%)

1988: Republican Dominance
√ Robert Dole/Jack Kemp: 410 (55.0%)
Gary Hart/Lloyd Bentsen: 128 (43.8%)

1992: End of an Era?
√ Michael Dukakis/Thomas Harkin: 302 (50.7%)
Robert Dole/Jack Kemp: 236 (48.2%)

1996: The Split
√ George W. Bush/Judd Gregg: 270 (49.3%)
Michael Dukakis/Thomas Harkin: 268 (49.6%)


2000: Solidification
√ George W. Bush/Judd Gregg: 278 (49.7%)
Michael Dukakis/Albert Gore: 260: (49.0%)

2004: Somewhat Sturdier Ground
√ Judd Gregg/Rudolph Giuliani: 287 (50.5%)
Albert Gore/John Kerry: 251 (48.2%)

2008: Surprise Defeat
√ Mark Warner/Russel Feingold: 284 (50.4%)
Judd Gregg/Rudolph Giuliani: 254 (48.5%)

2012: History Made
√ Olympia Snowe/Michael Steele: 294 (49.3%)
Mark Warner/Russell Feingold: 244 (48.3%)
Other: 0 (2.2%)

2016: Historic Campaign
√ Michael Steele/John Kasich: 299 (50.2%)
Jeanne Shaheen/Gavin Newsom: 239 (48.1%)
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« Reply #4374 on: October 08, 2014, 04:49:42 PM »

McCain Saves the GOP
√ John McCain/Kay Bailey Hutchison: 278 (50.0%)
Hillary Clinton/Ed Randell: 260 (48.7%)


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