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« Reply #4250 on: July 04, 2014, 11:02:30 PM »

√ Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen: 285 (50.1%)
George Bush/Dan Quayle: 253 (49.0%)

√ Robert Dole/Donald Rumsfeld: 342 (53.9%)
Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen: 196 (44.9%)

√ Robert Dole/Donald Rumsfeld: 390 (56.4%
Mario Cuomo/Albert Gore: 148 (42.1%)

√ Donald Rumsfeld/Olympia Snowe: 312 (51.0%)
John Kerry/Joseph Lieberman: 221 (47.2%)

√ William Clinton/William Richardson: 279 (49.7%)
Donald Rumsfeld/Olympia Snowe: 259 (48.9%)

√ Olympia Snowe/Timothy Pawlenty: 290 (50.5%)
William Clinton/William Richardson: 248 (48.3%)

√ Olympia Snowe/Timothy Pawlenty: 412 (55.1%)
Martin O'Malley/Gavin Newsom: 126 (43.9%)
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« Reply #4251 on: July 06, 2014, 12:28:39 PM »

Old Dog, New Tricks.



Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) - 392 Electoral Votes, 54.7% of the popular vote
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) - 146 electoral votes, 43.1% of the popular vote
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« Reply #4252 on: July 06, 2014, 01:13:28 PM »

2016 Biden VS Cruz:

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« Reply #4253 on: July 06, 2014, 06:40:44 PM »

2024: The last election under the old alignment



President Brian Sandoval/Vice President Kelly Ayotte 326 EV 52.5%
Cory Booker/Amy Klobuchar 212 EV 46.4%

 
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« Reply #4254 on: July 06, 2014, 08:05:48 PM »
« Edited: July 06, 2014, 08:09:18 PM by Skill and Chance »

2028: The First Great Drought strikes




Jason Carter (GA-GOV)/Heidi Heitkamp (ND-SEN) 269 EV 49.3%

Vice President Kelly Ayotte/Tom Cotton (AR-SEN) 269 EV 49.1%

1st House Vote:



Carter 24
Ayotte 23
Tied 3

Carter was fortunate enough to sweep in Democratic congressmen in 3 districts in inner the Atlanta suburbs and in many of the upper Midwestern states his ticket flipped and his winning coalition in 26 states gave him a fighting chance in the House vote.  These 3 new Democrats managed to tied Georgia's delgation 7 to 7.  In the first vote, every congressman held to his party affiliation, leading to 3 ties in GA, VA, and NH, where Anne Kuster still holds NH-02.

2nd House Vote:



Carter 25
Ayotte 23
Tied 2

Acknowledging Carter's 55/42 statewide win (58/39 in his VA Beach district), longtime GOP Rep. Scott Rigell flips his vote.  All others hold the party line.

3rd House Vote:




Carter 26

Ayotte 24

6 Democrats in the 50-50 split Senate offer to support Cotton if the House elects Carter.  After much bickering, the state delegations in the House agree to support their state's winning candidate, electing Carter by 1 vote.  Reps. Rigell, Austin Scott and Anne Kuster brokered the deal.

Senate Vote:

Cotton 56
Heitkamp 44

The Carter/Cotton Administration TBC...
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« Reply #4255 on: July 07, 2014, 12:02:14 AM »
« Edited: July 07, 2014, 12:06:55 AM by Dixiecrat »

2016 President


√ Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) EV=324
Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Jerry Brown (D-CA) EV=214
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« Reply #4256 on: July 07, 2014, 08:03:31 AM »

2016 President


√ Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) EV=324
Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Jerry Brown (D-CA) EV=214

Beautiful!
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« Reply #4257 on: July 07, 2014, 12:50:38 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2014, 12:52:55 PM by Dixiecrat »

2008 President


√ Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Bradford Henry (D-OK)
John McCain (R-AZ) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)
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« Reply #4258 on: July 07, 2014, 02:46:47 PM »

2016: Nuclear Option:



Sen. Rob Portman R-OH/Gov. Susana Martinez R-NM 303 EVS
Sen Elizabeth Warren D-MA/Sen. Mark Warner D-VA 235 EVS

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« Reply #4259 on: July 07, 2014, 08:19:49 PM »

√ Gov. Chris Christie/Gov. Susana Martinez: 313 (51.0%)
Sen. Elizabeth Warren/Sen. Martin Heinrich: 225 (47.7%)

√ Pres. Chris Christie/Vice Pres. Susana Martinez: 377 (53.8%)
Gov. Martin O'Malley/Sen. Jeff Merkley: 161 (45.0%)
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« Reply #4260 on: July 08, 2014, 12:47:32 AM »

Roosevelt Retires: Part I


1940 President


√ John Nance Garner (D-TX) / Carter Glass (D-VA)
Wallace White (R-ME) / Bertrand Snell (R-NY)
Henrik Shipstead (FL/P-MN) / Robert La Follette (FL/P-WI)
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« Reply #4261 on: July 08, 2014, 12:53:28 AM »

2008 President


√ Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Bradford Henry (D-OK)
John McCain (R-AZ) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)

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« Reply #4262 on: July 08, 2014, 01:26:47 AM »

2016: Young Guns



New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand / Missouri Governor Jay Nixon - 295
Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker / North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory - 243
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« Reply #4263 on: July 08, 2014, 10:50:34 PM »
« Edited: July 09, 2014, 11:56:53 AM by Dixiecrat »

Roosevelt Retires: Part II

1944 President


√ Robert La Follete (R-WI) / Thomas Dewey (R-NY)
John Nance Garner (D-TX) / Carter Glass (D-VA)
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« Reply #4264 on: July 09, 2014, 09:01:55 PM »

Roosevelt Retires: Part II

1944 President


√ Robert La Follete (R-WI) / Thomas Dewey (R-NY)
John Nance Garner (D-TX) / Carter Glass (D-VA)


Are we not in WWII in this world?  Because if we are, 1944 is simply an automatic win for the incumbent.  Keep in mind that FDR was probably hurt severely by the whole 4th term business and he still won by an Obama/McCain margin.  An incumbent running for a 2nd term should win close to 60/40 in 1944.
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« Reply #4265 on: July 09, 2014, 10:17:44 PM »

If you think that's strange check out his 2008 map.
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« Reply #4266 on: July 09, 2014, 11:21:07 PM »

Roosevelt Retires: Part II

1944 President


√ Robert La Follete (R-WI) / Thomas Dewey (R-NY)
John Nance Garner (D-TX) / Carter Glass (D-VA)


Are we not in WWII in this world?  Because if we are, 1944 is simply an automatic win for the incumbent.  Keep in mind that FDR was probably hurt severely by the whole 4th term business and he still won by an Obama/McCain margin.  An incumbent running for a 2nd term should win close to 60/40 in 1944.

Good point. Will edit this later.
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« Reply #4267 on: July 10, 2014, 01:54:49 AM »

1988: Isn't it Rich?



Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton / California Governor Jerry Brown - 277
Frmr. Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld / Florida Rep. Connie Mack III - 261


1992: Isn't it Bliss?



President Bill Clinton / Frmr. Texas Governor Ann Richards - 395; 50.9%
Indiana Senator Dan Quayle / Kansas Senator Bob Dole- 143; 37.98%
Businessman Ross Perot / James Stockdale - 0; 11.12%


1996: SEND IN THE CLOWNS



Vice President Ann Richards / Colorado Governor Roy Romer - 312
General Colin Powell / Arizona Governor Fife Symington - 226
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« Reply #4268 on: July 10, 2014, 07:03:00 PM »

2000: A Weekend in The Country



President Ann Richards / Vice President Roy Romer - 250
Wisconsin Governor Tommy Thompson / Maine Senator Olympia Snowe - 288


2004: Ev'ry Day a Little Death



North Carolina Senator John Edwards / Illinois Senator Carol Moseley Braun - 270
President Tommy Thompson / Vice President Olympia Snowe - 268



2008: In Praise of Women



President John Edwards / Vice President Carol Moseley Braun - 202
Frmr. Vice President Olympia Snowe / Florida Governor Charlie Crist - 336
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« Reply #4269 on: July 10, 2014, 08:02:32 PM »
« Edited: July 10, 2014, 11:20:00 PM by Ray Goldfield »

2016 - The Battle for America:



Governor Scott Walker (R-WI)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 269 electoral votes, 49.13% of the popular vote
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) - 269 electoral votes 49.08% of the popular vote

Walker elected President by the House.
Warner elected Vice President by the Senate.

2020 - Family Feud:



Vice President Mark Warner (D-VA)/Governor Cory Booker (D-NJ) - 303 electoral votes, 50.7% of the popular vote
President Scott Walker (R-WI)/Speaker of the House Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) - 235 electoral votes, 48.2% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #4270 on: July 10, 2014, 10:59:09 PM »

^I've always thought there was a pretty good chance that in the event of a tie, the Democratic Senate would put up their Presidential nominee for VP.

That sure as hell would be interesting to have a sitting VP challenge the President
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« Reply #4271 on: July 10, 2014, 11:12:47 PM »

^I've always thought there was a pretty good chance that in the event of a tie, the Democratic Senate would put up their Presidential nominee for VP.

That sure as hell would be interesting to have a sitting VP challenge the President

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1800
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« Reply #4272 on: July 10, 2014, 11:27:28 PM »

...in modern times.
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« Reply #4273 on: July 13, 2014, 09:31:24 AM »

2016 President


√ Mark Warner (D-VA) / Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) EV=367
Ted Cruz (D-TX) / Sam Brownback (R-KS) EV=171
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« Reply #4274 on: July 13, 2014, 11:38:58 PM »

2016 Republican Primary - A Randy Good Time!
Four frontrunners lapped the field for the longest time - Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, and Ted Cruz, each represented a sect of the party, and each battling tooth and nail for the nomination. Of the four, Paul had by far the strongest organization in the first primaries, and won Iowa and New Hampshire through sheer power. Underdog Scott Walker rose to the challenge after a strong second place showing in Iowa and won Michigan by over ten points. Walker's campaign finance violations, however, doomed his chances. Christie rose during Super Tuesday, winning pluralities in the Northeast, and gained enough delegates to wage a small comeback, but after more investigation into his record in New Jersey, he proved to have too much baggage to be a serious nominee. The final match-up was between Rand Paul and Jeb Bush, but by the time of the match-up, Paul had a strong lead in the delegate race that no matter how much Bush did, he couldn't make it up. Even with all the establishment support and most of the establishment money, Bush was also considered rather incompetent at campaigning, allowing Paul to notch surprising victories in Georgia, Ohio, Virginia, California, and Illinois.



Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) - Republican Nominee
Fmr. Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL) - Withdrew during the conventions, Endorsed the nominee
Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ) - Withdrew after MD-VA-DC Primaries, Endorsed Bush
Governor Scott Walker (R-WI) - Withdrew after Super Tuesday, No Endorsement
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) - Withdrew before SC, Endorsed Paul
Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA) - Withdrew after IA, Endorsed Walker
Doctor Ben Carson (R-MD) - Withdrew after IA, Endorsed Paul

2016 - A War of Someone Else's Words - Biden v. Paul
Despite having a tough Democratic primary, Vice President Joe Biden rose the victor over Iowa winner Governor Martin O'Malley and Florida winner Governor Andrew Cuomo. For VP, he picked the moderate Senator Amy Klobuchar from Minnesota, a move that inspired yawns. He faced Rand Paul, who Democrats considered the Republican McGovern, and Biden lead by 15 points after some of Paul's neo-confederate hires were brought to light. However, Paul ran a grassroots campaign, running to Biden's right on economic policy and to his left on pot policy, foreign policy, and dinged the Vice President on the drone program and the weakening economy under President Obama. Biden's campaign was plagued from the start by his constant gaffes, but was further complicated by Biden's health problems, and his confusing 15 minute speech in New Hampshire that went basically nowhere trying to talk about the future of healthcare. The debates went in a way unexpected - Paul won the first, lost the second, and managed to sway some viewers on the foreign policy debate, even as Biden won by most barometers. By election day, Paul had erased the gap and, in some polls, even led by 1 or 2, but it was surprising to most when Paul won at the end of the day, noting Biden's stronger campaign infrastructure.



Senator Rand Paul (R-KY)/Senator Rob Portman (R-OH) - 49.3%, 272 EV's
Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) - 49.2%, 266 EV's
Others - 1.5%, 0 EV's
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