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« Reply #4150 on: May 12, 2014, 09:10:56 PM »

Governor Susanna Martinez/Senator Kelly Ayotte: 272 (49.3%)
Vice President Sherrod Brown/Senator Tammy Baldwin: 266 (49.2%)

That would be a heartbreaker for me.
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« Reply #4151 on: May 12, 2014, 09:34:02 PM »
« Edited: May 12, 2014, 09:35:43 PM by badgate »



Frmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton / North Carolina Congressman Mike McIntyre - 340
Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan / Ohio Governor John Kasich - 198
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« Reply #4152 on: May 12, 2014, 10:57:52 PM »

√ Vice President Joe Biden/Senator Elizabeth Warren: 285 (49.8%)
Governor Jeb Bush/Senator Kelly Ayotte: 253 (48.6%)
Other: 0 (1.6%)

√ Attorney General Kirsten Gilibrand/Governor Julian Castro: 368 (53.2%)
Senator Ted Cruz/Governor Mike Pence: 170 (45.3%)
Other: 0 (1.5%)
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« Reply #4153 on: May 13, 2014, 08:28:21 AM »

√ Governor Jeb Bush/Secretary Elizabeth Dole: 273 (48.9%)
Vice President Al Gore/Senator Joe Lieberman: 265 (48.7%)
Other: 0 (2.4%)

√ President Jeb Bush/Vice President Elizabeth Dole: 342 (53.0%)
Senator Joe Biden/Governor Howard Dean: 196 (45.5%)
Other: 0 (1.5%)

√ Senator Hillary Clinton/Governor Bill Richardson: 277 (49.29%)
Vice President Elizabeth Dole/Senator George Allen: 261 (49.20%)
Other: 0 (1.6%)

√ Governor Chris Christie/Senator Judd Gregg: 311 (50.9%)
President Hillary Clinton/Vice President Bill Richardson: 227 (47.5%)
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« Reply #4154 on: May 16, 2014, 08:42:35 AM »

Savior of the Republican Party
√ Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV)/ Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR): 275 (49.5%)
Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD)/ Gov. Jay Nixon (D-MO) 263 (49.4%)

√ Pres. Brian Sandoval (R-NV)/ Vice Pres. Tom Cotton (R-AR) 326 (52.9%)
Gov. Gavin Newsom/ (D-CA)/Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy (D-MA) 212 (45.3%)
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« Reply #4155 on: May 16, 2014, 09:20:55 PM »
« Edited: May 16, 2014, 10:51:22 PM by NE Representative BaconBacon96 »

Ronald Reagan-One Term Only

In late 1983, with declining health and an increasing age, Ronald Reagan announced to the world that he was not seeking reelection to the presidency. Endorsing George HW Bush as his successor, he urged Republicans to get behind his Vice President.  The party did so, with Bush winning all 50 states in the primaries against token opposition.

1984 Democratic Primaries

The Democratic Party primaries were not so simple however. To the surprise of many in the liberal establishment, former Vice President Walter Mondale announced he was not going to seek the nomination. In his place came a number of different candidates including Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Mo Udall and Joe Biden. Reverend Jesse Jackson also ran, but was primarily seen as the black candidate and made little traction outside of that demographic.

Gary Hart emerged as a moderate, more modern candidate. He was a fresh face that many could get behind. The left of the party failed to unite, with Moynihan, Biden and Udall all winning primaries. Hart capitalized on this and successfully portrayed the others as believers in traditional liberal policies of the past. One by one all of them fell, with Moynihan lasting longer than the others and providing the only real threat Hart ever had to the nomination. Moynihan never got too close to Hart though and the Democratic Party's candidate for president was indeed the Colorado Senator.



Senator Gary Hart of Colorado
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
Reverend Jesse Jackson
Representative Mo Udall of Arizona
Senator Joe Biden of Delaware

Under intense pressure to choose a running mate from the liberal wing of the party, Hart chose Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey.

The General Election of 1984

Going into the general election, Bush was leading the polls against all potential Democratic opponents. With both establishment and grassroots conservatives supporting him, he could project a sense of unity in the GOP, contrasting with the divided Democrats. At the Republican National Convention outgoing President Ronald Reagan made a passionate speech for his Veep. This and the choice of well-known Representative Jack Kemp as the VP candidate seemed to put Bush out of reach for Hart. However, this made Bush complacent. He began to campaign less intensely and commentators began to question his general lack of policies, besides the ones the Reagan Administration had already implemented. He was smashed during the debates by the younger, faster and more readily prepared Hart.

When the results had finally come in, it had become clear that Gary Hart had pulled off the greatest turnaround since Truman beat Dewey in 1948.




Colorado Senator Gary Hart/New Jersey Senator Bill Bradley-302 EV
Vice President George HW Bush/New York Representative Jack Kemp-226 EV
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« Reply #4156 on: May 17, 2014, 02:05:07 AM »

2000


Vice President Al Gore / Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman - 271, 49.99%
Texas Governor George W. Bush / Frmr. Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney - 267, 48.91%



2004


President Al Gore / Vice President Joe Lieberman - 275, 48.9%
Arizona Senator John McCain / Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney - 263, 48.7%



2008


Illinois Senator Barack Obama / Indiana Senator Evan Bayh - 349, 51.2%
Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee / Florida Governor Charlie Crist - 189, 46.8%



2012


President Barack Obama / Vice President Evan Bayh - 266, 48.7%
Governor Jon Huntsman / Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell - 272, 49.1%


2016


Frmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton / Missouri Governor Jay Nixon - 280, 50.6%
President Jon Huntsman / Vice President Bob McDonnell - 258, 47.4%


2020


President Hillary Clinton / Vice President Jay Nixon - 251, 47.1%
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul / Maine Senator Susan Collins - 287, 50.8%
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« Reply #4157 on: May 17, 2014, 05:13:17 PM »

So, how could this happen? 284 R to 254 D

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« Reply #4158 on: May 17, 2014, 05:18:28 PM »

So, how could this happen? 284 R to 254 D




2008
Indiana Senator Evan Bayh / Georgia Senator Sam Nunn - 254
Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty / Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, Jr. - 284
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« Reply #4159 on: May 17, 2014, 05:23:26 PM »

So, how could this happen? 284 R to 254 D



2016
Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC)/Gov. Jay Nixon (D-MO)
Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV)/Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH)
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« Reply #4160 on: May 17, 2014, 06:13:46 PM »

1996: Upset over Perot's perceived effect on the 1992 election, Republican state legislators across the nation inplement instant-runoff voting:



Bill Clinton 371
Bob Dole 167

2000: Republican legislators quickly regret their push for instant-runoff voting:



Al Gore 296
George W. Bush 242
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« Reply #4161 on: May 18, 2014, 12:11:29 AM »

^Tough to determine how an IRL 2004 recall would go.
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« Reply #4162 on: May 18, 2014, 01:18:57 AM »
« Edited: May 18, 2014, 12:51:29 PM by IDS Legislator Maxwell »

2008 Alternate Scenario - President Edwards



Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) - 1113 Delegates + 96 Delegates
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 970 Delegates
Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) - 96 Delegates

2008 General Election:



Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC)/Governor Bill Owens (R-CO) - 53.9%, 321 EV's
President John Edwards (D-NC)/Vice President William Cohen (D-ME) - 44.5%, 217 EV's
Others - 1.6%, 0 EV's

2012 General Election



Former Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA) - 49.7%, 286 EV's
President Mark Sanford (R-SC)/Vice President Bill Owens (R-CO) - 48.4%, 252 EV's
Others - 1.9%, 0 EV's

2016 General Election



President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President John Kerry (D-MA) - 51.8%, 347 EV's
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA) - 46.9%, 191 EV's
Others - 1.3%, 0 EV's

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« Reply #4163 on: May 18, 2014, 09:06:39 PM »

No economic crisis in 2008

√ Sen. John McCain/Gov. Sarah Palin: 276 (49.4%)
Sen. Barack Obama/Sen. Joe Biden: 262 (49.3%)

√ Pres. John McCain/Vice Pres. Sarah Palin: 296 (50.9%)
Sen. Russ Fieingold/Gov. Martin O'Malley: 242 (47.9%)

Vice President Sarah Palin/Gov. Jon Huntsman: 269 (49.8%)
Sen. Hillary Clinton/Sen. Sherrod Brown: 269 (49.8%)*
*House Elects Clinton 26-23

√ Pres. Hillary Clinton/Vice Pres. Sherrod Brown: 299 (50.7%)
Gov. Jon Huntsman/Sen. Charlie Crist: 239 (48.0%)
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« Reply #4164 on: May 19, 2014, 06:22:25 PM »

Obama Doesn't Seek Re-Election

2012

Governor Mitt Romney/Governor Brian Sandoval (R) - 287
Vice President Joe Biden/Governor Howard Dean (D) - 251

2016

President Mitt Romney/Vice President Brian Sandoval (R) - 331
Speaker Chris Van Holland/Senator Martin Heinrich (D) - 207

2020

Senator Joseph P. Kennedy, III/Governor Jason Carter (D) - 420
Senator Ted Cruz/Senator Raul Labrador (I) - 68
Governor Scott Brown/Secretary of State Jon Huntsman, Jr. (R) - 50
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« Reply #4165 on: May 19, 2014, 07:20:43 PM »

Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV)/Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) 291 (50.5%)
Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) 247 (48.1%)
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« Reply #4166 on: May 21, 2014, 02:18:51 AM »
« Edited: May 21, 2014, 02:26:53 AM by badgate »

1976-2004: Democratic Dominance to Dissonance
The 22nd Amendment limits the President to 3 full 4-year terms.

1976


√Georgia Governor James E. Carter / Minnesota Senator Walter Mondale - 297
President Gerald Ford / Vice President Nelson Rockefeller - 241


1980


√President James E. Carter / Vice President Walter Mondale - 296
Frmr. U.N. Ambassador George H.W. Bush / Frmr. President Gerald Ford - 242


1984


√President James E. Carter / Tennessee Senator Al Gore, Jr. - 334
New Jersey Governor Tom Keane / Oklahoma Governor Jeanne Kirkpatrick - 204


1988


Vice President Al Gore, Jr. / California Governor Jerry Brown - 254
√Kansas Senator Bob Dole / Frmr. Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld - 284


1992


√Frmr. Vice President Al Gore, Jr. / Arkansas Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton - 326; 46%
President Bob Dole / Vice President Donald Rumsfeld - 212; 44%
Texas Businessman Ross Perot / James Stockdale - 0; 10%


1996


President Al Gore, Jr. / Vice President Hillary R. Clinton - 264
√Frmr. President Bob Dole / Frmr. General Colin Powell - 274


2000


Missouri Representative Dick Gephardt / Frmr. Colorado Senator Gary Hart - 212
√President Bob Dole / Vice President Colin Powell - 326


2004


Vermont Governor Howard Dean / North Carolina Senator John Edwards - 153
√Vice President Colin Powell / Texas Governor George W. Bush - 385




Presidents of the United States
39. James E. Carter - Georgia; 1977-1989
40. Bob Dole - Kansas; 1989-1993
41. Al Gore, Jr. - Tennessee; 1993-1997
42. Bob Dole - Kansas; 1997-2005
43. Colin Powell - New York; 2005-? ? ? ?

Vice Presidents of the United States
42. Walter Mondale - Minnesota; 1977-1985
43. Al Gore, Jr. - Tennessee; 1985-1989
44. Donald Rumsfeld - Illinois; 1989-1993
45. Hillary Rodham Clinton - Arkansas; 1993-1997
46. Colin Powell - New York; 1997-2005
47. George W. Bush - Texas; 2005-? ? ? ?
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« Reply #4167 on: May 21, 2014, 03:32:49 AM »
« Edited: May 23, 2014, 06:07:39 PM by badgate »

2008-2032: The Fall of the Republican Empire

2008


Frmr. Vice President Hillary R. Clinton / Massachusetts Senator John Kerry - 219
√President Colin Powell / Vice President George W. Bush - 319


2012


Missouri Governor Jay Nixon / New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand - 267
√President Colin Powell / Florida Senator Marco Rubio - 271


2016


√New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand / Illinois Senator Barack Obama - 286
Vice President Marco Rubio / Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker - 252


2020


√President Kirsten Gillibrand / Vice President Barack Obama - 357
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul / South Carolina Senator Tim Scott - 181


2024


√Vice President Barack Obama / Kentucky Senator Alison L. Grimes - ~453
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan / Oklahoma Senator Mary Fallin - ~85


2028


√President Barack Obama / Vice President Alison L. Grimes - ~340
Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton / Colorado Senator Cory Gardner - ~198


2032


√President Barack Obama / Georgia Governor Jason Carter - ~352
New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayotte / Oklahoma Governor T.W. Shannon - ~186



Presidents of the United States
39. James E. Carter - Georgia; 1977-1989
40. Bob Dole - Kansas; 1989-1993
41. Al Gore, Jr. - Tennessee; 1993-1997
42. Bob Dole - Kansas; 1997-2005
43. Colin Powell - New York; 2005-2017
44. Kirsten Gillibrand - New York; 2017-2025
45. Barack Obama - Illinois; 2025-2037

Vice Presidents of the United States
42. Walter Mondale - Minnesota; 1977-1985
43. Al Gore, Jr. - Tennessee; 1985-1989
44. Donald Rumsfeld - Illinois; 1989-1993
45. Hillary Rodham Clinton - Arkansas; 1993-1997
46. Colin Powell - New York; 1997-2005
47. George W. Bush - Texas; 2005-2013
48. Marco Rubio - Florida; 2013-2017
49. Barack Obama - Illinois; 2017-2025
50. Alison L. Grimes - Kentucky ; 2025-2033
51. Jason Carter - Georgia; 2033-2037
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« Reply #4168 on: May 21, 2014, 11:15:18 PM »

The Duke Wins
√ Gov. Michael Dukakis/Sen Lloyd Bentsen: 272 (49.6%)
Vice Pres. George H.W. Bush/Sen. Dan Quayle: 266 (49.5%)

Dukakis Thwarts off Economic Crisis
√ Pres. Michael Dukakis/Vice Pres. Lloyd Bentsen: 337 (52.4%)
Sen. Dan Quayle/Rep. Jack Kemp: 201 (45.4%)

History Made
√ Gov. Ann Richards/Attorney General Bill Clinton: 411 (55.8%)
Sen. Philip Graham/Sen. Richard Lugar: 127 (43.9%)

Straight Talk Express
√ Sen. John McCain/Gov. John Engler: 291 (50.4%)
Pres. Ann Richards/Vice Pres. Bill Clinton: 247

McCain! McCain! McCain!
√ Pres. John McCain/Vice Pres. John Engler: 427 (57.8%)
Vice Pres. Bill Clinton/Sen. John Kerry: 11 (40.9%)

Republican Dominance
√ Mayor Rudy Giuliani/Gov.Tim Pawlenty: 373 (53.9%)
Gov. Roy Barnes/Sen. Diane Feinstein: 165 (44.7%)

√ Pres. Rudy Giuliani/Vice Pres. Tim Pawlenty: 337 (51.4%)
Sen. Russ Feingold/Gov. Deval Patrick: 201 (46.9%)
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« Reply #4169 on: May 22, 2014, 12:30:49 AM »
« Edited: May 23, 2014, 06:19:33 PM by badgate »

XXII
the President and Vice President shall serve terms of six years duration. The President shall be limited to two non-consecutive terms, and the Vice President is not limited but can also not serve consecutive terms.

1952


Illinois Governor Adlai Stevenson / Alabama Senator John Sparkman - 89
General Dwight Eisenhower / California Senator Richard Nixon - 442


1958


Texas Senator Lyndon B. Johnson / Minnesota Senator Hubert H. Humphrey - 319
Vice President Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. - 212



*--President Johnson is shot in Dallas, four and a half years into his Presidency. Vice President Humphrey attempts to run for reelection after becoming President, but a confusing wording in the 22nd Amendment leads to a court challenge. On Jan. 29, 1964, the Supreme Court ruled that Humphrey could not run for President that year, but was eligible in 1970. New York Senator Robert Kennedy wins the lengthy primary battle, and selects --*


1964


New York Senator Robert Kennedy / Tennessee Senator Albert Gore, Sr. - 267
Frmr. Vice President Richard Nixon / Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater - 264
Unpledged Electors - 7


*--Congress elects the Democratic ticket.--*

1970


Frmr. President Hubert H. Humphrey / Oklahoma Senator Fred Harris - 253
New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller / Texas Senator George H.W. Bush - 285


1976


Georgia Governor James E. Carter / New York Congresswoman Shirley Chisholm - 230
Vice President George H.W. Bush / Speaker of the House Gerald Ford - 308


1982


Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy / Colorado Senator Gary Hart - 277
Vice President Gerald Ford / Kansas Senator Bob Dole - 261


1988


New York Governor Mario Cuomo / Illinois Senator Jesse Jackson - 313
Frmr. Illinois Senator and Frmr. Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld / New York Congressman Jack Kemp - 225


1994


Tennessee Governor Al Gore, Jr. / Attorney General Hillary Rodham Clinton - 237
Frmr. President George H.W. Bush / California Governor Pete Wilson - 301





Presidents of the United States
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower - New York - 1953-1959
35. Lyndon B. Johnson - Texas - 1959-1963
36. Hubert H. Humphrey - Minnesota - 1963-1965
37. Robert F. Kennedy - New York - 1965-1971
38. Nelson Rockefeller - New York - 1971-1977
39. George H.W. Bush - Texas - 1977-1983
40. Ted Kennedy - Massachusetts - 1983-1989
41. Mario Cuomo - New York - 1989-1995
42. George H.W. Bush - Texas - 1995-2001

Vice Presidents of the United States
36. Richard Nixon - California - 1953-1959
37. Hubert H. Humphrey - Minnesota - 1959-1963
--vacant from Nov. 1963-Jan.1965
38. Al Gore, Sr. - Tennessee - 1965-1971
39. George H.W. Bush - Texas - 1971-1977
40. Gerald Ford - Michigan - 1977-1983
41. Gary Hart - Colorado - 1983-1989
42. Jesse Jackson - Illinois - 1989-1995
43. Pete Wilson - California - 1995-2001
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« Reply #4170 on: May 22, 2014, 12:36:17 AM »

A Four Party System:
Key:
Progressive Party: Typical progressives, encompasses a majority of what would be Democrats Ex. Al Gore, Dennis Kucinich, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden
Conservative Party: Social and Fairly Economically Conservatives, Ex. Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee, George W Bush.
Populist/Moderate Party:Mixed bag of populists and moderates, Ex. Jon Huntsman, Scott Brown, Susan Collins, Joe Manchin, Zell Miller, Ross Perot, Jim Matheson, Jerry Brown, Joe Lieberman.
Liberal Party: Classical Liberalism, Socially liberally, with it's members varying on economic standpoints. Ex. Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Mike Gravel, Walter Jones, Buddy Roemer, Jesse Ventura, Pat Buchanan.

2000:

VP. Al Gore (P-TN)/Sen. Joe Biden (P-TN) 241EV
Gov. George W. Bush (C-TX)/Sen. Olympia Snowe (M-ME) 190EV
Sen. David Boren (M-OK)/Gov. Jerry Brown (M-CA) 36EV
Gov. Jesse Ventura (L-MN)/Rep. Walter Jones (L-NC) 71EV

Bush is elected by the House (Events remain at in TTL)

2004:
The unpopularity of the war in Iraq is a major factor, and the Progressives have nominated a candidate that voted for the war, the conservatives have the president who started the war, the moderate party has nominated a senator that is on the verge of becoming a conservative, and the liberals have nominated a former conservative.

Sen. Hillary Clinton (P-NY)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (M-CT) 252EV
Pres. George W. Bush (C-TX)/VP. Olympia Snowe (M-ME) 105EV
Sen. Zell Miller (M-GA)/Sen. Evan Bayh (M-IN) 55EV
Rep. Ron Paul (L-TX)/Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM) 126EV

Again thrown to the house, despite coming in third, Bush is reelected, as many moderates support Olympia Snowe, and Zell Miller came in fourth, not allowing him on the congressional ballot.

2008:

With a recession, and the Iraq War taking a heavy toll, the conservatives are polling low, and with the Progressive take over of the house and senate in 2006, they too have been blamed for the economic collapse.

Sen. Dennis Kucinich (P-OH)/Sen. Bernie Sanders (P-VT) 206EV
Sen. Rick Santorum (C-PA)/Gov. Mark Sanford (C-SC) 55EV
Gov. Joe Manchin (M-WV)/Zell Miller (M-GA) 5EV
Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Sen. Larry Pressler (L-SD) 272EV

For the first time since 1996, a President has been elected by maintaining a majority of the electoral college.
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« Reply #4171 on: May 22, 2014, 05:05:57 PM »



Dukakis/Bentsen 280 50.4%
Bush/Quayle 258 48.6%



Powell/Cheney 283 40.3%
Dukakis/Bentsen 245 38.8%
Perot/Stockdale 10 20.5%
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« Reply #4172 on: May 23, 2014, 05:54:43 PM »

2000


Vice President Al Gore/Senator Joe Lieberman (D) - 300
Governor George W. Bush/Secretary Dick Cheney (R) - 238

2004

President Al Gore/Vice President Joe Lieberman (D) - 336
Governor George W. Bush/Senator George Allen (R) - 202

2008

Senator Russ Feingold/Senator John Kerry (D) - 328
Senator Sam Brownback/Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 210

2012

Governor Mitt Romney/Senator Kay B. Hutchison (R) - 210
President Russ Feingold/Vice President John Kerry (D) - 328

2016

President Mitt Romney/Vice President Kay Hutchison (R) - 210
Fmr. Vice President John Kerry/Congressman Chris Van Hollen (D) - 328


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« Reply #4173 on: May 23, 2014, 06:49:49 PM »

√ John McCain/Tim Pawlenty: 272 (49.3%)
Hillary Clinton/Joe Biden: 266 (49.2%)
possible future timeline...
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« Reply #4174 on: May 24, 2014, 01:39:03 AM »

Election 2028



Vice President Julian Castro(D-TX)/Gov. Kamala Harris(D-CA): 272 (50.3%)
Gov. Cathy McMorris Rodgers(R-WA)/Sen. T.W. Shannon(R-OK): 266 (48.4%)
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