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« Reply #3825 on: September 22, 2013, 01:39:56 AM »
« edited: September 22, 2013, 01:57:34 AM by badgate »




Former Vice President John Hoynes - 14 states; 129 electoral votes
Vice President Robert Russell - 24 states; 195 electoral votes
Congressman Matthew Santos - 12 states + D.C.; 214 electoral votes
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« Reply #3826 on: September 22, 2013, 10:33:11 AM »

2012:
Romney/Ryan: 269 (49.3%)
Obama/Biden: 269 (49.2%)

Romney: 28
Obama: 19
Abstain: 3

Senate Elects Biden

2016:
Romney/Rubio: 272 (49.9%)
Biden/Warner: 266 (48.7%)

or...
Clinton/Warner: 288 (50.3%)
Romney/Rubio: 250 (48.5%)
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« Reply #3827 on: September 23, 2013, 03:31:33 PM »

2016


Christie/Rubio  302 (50.0%)
Schweitzer/Warren  236 (48.7%)
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« Reply #3828 on: September 28, 2013, 12:49:13 PM »

Nixon's Early Resignation and Timelinus Odditus

Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew, Vacant 1969-1973
Carl Albert/Nelson Rockefeller 1973-1975


1974


Senator Mo Udall D-AZ/Senator Walter Mondale D-MN 330 EVS
Vice President Nelson Rockefeller R-NY/Governor Ronald Reagan R-CA 208 EVS

1978


Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole R-KS/Former CIA Director George HW Bush R-TX 464 EVS
President Mo Udall D-NM/Vice President Walter Mondale D-MN 93 EVS

Bob Dole/George HW Bush 1979-1981
George HW Bush/Ronald Reagan 1981-198?

1982

President George HW Bush R-TX/Governor Ronald Reagan R-CA 467 EVS
Former Governor Jimmy Carter D-GA/Senator Thomas Eagleton D-MO 71 EVS

1986

Vice President Ronald Reagan R-CA/Former Senator Howard Baker R-TN  535 EVS
Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr D-SC/Governor Bill Clinton D-AR 3 EVS

1990


Governor John Danforth R-MO/Senator Dan Quayle R-IN 295 EVS
Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro D-NY/Senator Al Gore D-TN 243 EVS

1994


Governor Jerry Brown D-CA/Senator Al Gore D-TN 287 EVS
President John Danforth R-MO/Vice President Dan Quayle R-IN 249 EVS

1998

President Gerry Brown D-CA/Vice President Al Gore D-TN 357 EVS
Senator John McCain III R-AZ/Congressman Jack Kemp R-NY 181 EVS

2002

Governor Jeb Bush R-FL/Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison R-TX 279 EVS
Senator John Edwards D-NC/Senator John Kerry D-MA 259 EVS

2006

Senator Hillary Clinton D-NY/Senator Joe Biden D-DE 338 EVS
President Jeb Bush R-FL/Vice President Kay Bailey Huchison R-TX 200 EVS

2010

Senator Judd Gregg R-NH/Governor Jon Huntsman R-UT 290 EVS
Secretary of State Barack Obama D-IL/Senator Mark Warner D-VA 248 EVS

2014

President Judd Gregg R-NH/Congressman Paul Ryan R-WI 357 EVS
Governor Charlie Crist D-FL/Governor John Hickenlooper D-CO 181 EVS

2018


Secretary of Education Luis Fortuno (NP)R-PU/Governor Susana Martinez R-NM 272 EVS
Senator Mary Landrieu D-LA/House Minority Leader Alan Grayson D-FL 266 EVS

 
2022

Puerto Rico

President Luis Fortuno R-PU/Vice President Susana Martinez R-NM ~340 EVS
Governor Gavin Newsom D-CA/Senator Kirsten Gillibrand D-NY ~200 EVS

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« Reply #3829 on: September 29, 2013, 12:20:00 AM »

2016



Christie/Walker 303 (50.4%)
Clinton/Warner 235 (48.9%)

2020



Warren/Heinrich 396 (55.7%)
Christie/Walker 142 (42.4%)

2024


Warren/Heinrich 479 (60.1%)

Capito/Hoeven 59 (38.8%)
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« Reply #3830 on: September 29, 2013, 04:34:02 PM »
« Edited: October 04, 2013, 02:27:43 PM by #look ma'--no Government! »

I'm doin' something like what Badgate did here:




Former Vice President John Hoynes - 14 states; 129 electoral votes
Vice President Robert Russell - 24 states; 195 electoral votes
Congressman Matthew Santos - 12 states + D.C.; 214 electoral votes

So here's my version... Ladies and Gentlemen, BEHOLD THE 2018 REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES!!!:

For January:



Former Governor Bob McDonnell - 1 State (so far); 6 electorals
Secretary of Education Luis Fortuno - 2 States (so far); 12 electorals
Senator Rand Paul
Senator Ted Cruz
Secretary of Treasury Mitt Romney
Former Governor Bobby Jindal
Governor Chris Christie
Senator Marco Rubio

In February:



Secretary of Education Luis Fortuno - 3 States (so far); 18 electorals
Former Governor Bob McDonnell - 2 States (so far); 13 electorals
Senator Rand Paul - 1 State (so far); 11 electorals
Former Governor Bobby Jindal - 1 State (so far); 15 electorals
Senator Ted Cruz
Governor Chris Christie
Secretary of Treasury Mitt Romney
Senator Marco Rubio

In March:


Secretary of Education Luis Fortuno - 8 States (so far); 69 electorals
Senator Rand Paul - 7 States (so far); 59 electorals
Former Governor Bob McDonnell - 6 States (so far); 46 electorals
Former Governor Bobby Jindal - 1 State; 15 electorals
Senator Ted Cruz
Governor Chris Christie
Secretary of Treasury Mitt Romney
Senator Marco Rubio

April-July:


Secretary of Education Luis Fortuno - 17 states (so far); 180 electorals
Senator Rand Paul - 14 States (so far); 191 electorals
Former Governor Bob McDonnell - 11 States (so far); 82 electorals
Former Governor Bobby Jindal 1 State; 15 electorals
Senator Ted Cruz
Secretary of Treasury Mitt Romney
Senator Marco Rubio



Senator Rand Paul - 18 States (so far); 207 electorals
Secretary of Education Luis Fortuno - 17 States (so far); 186 electorals
Former Governor Bob McDonnell - 15 States (so far); 130 electorals
Former Governor Bobby Jindal
Senator Ted Cruz
Secretary of Treasury Mitt Romney
Senator Marco Rubio

RNC Convention: First Ballot:



Senator Rand Paul - 17 States; 207 electorals
Secretary of Education Luis Fortuno - 15 States; 201 electorals
Former Governor Bob McDonnell - 11 States; 130 electorals

RNC Convention: Second Ballot:

Senator Rand Paul - 27 states; 269 electorals
Secretary of Education Luis Fortuno - 23 states; 269 electorals
Former Governor Bob McDonnell

(a lot of delegates voted for Paul or Fortuno because they chose him over McDonnell, but because McDonnell decided to end his campaign, they all voted with their hearts)

President Gregg makes speech asking Rand Paul to put politics aside and to instead go behind Fortuno....

RNC Convention: Fourth Ballot:



FORTUNO NOMINATED FOR PRESIDENT!

FORTUNO SELECTS MARTINEZ AS VEEP!

And that's how Fortuno was nominated on the fourth ballot when he lost the last three...
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« Reply #3831 on: September 29, 2013, 07:48:16 PM »


Ah, yes, with all his foreign policy experience, Romney would be great for this job! It's too bad he doesn't have any business experience that he likes to talk about, so he couldn't be nominated as Secretary of Treasury or Commerce in a Republican administration.
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« Reply #3832 on: September 29, 2013, 07:56:20 PM »


Ah, yes, with all his foreign policy experience, Romney would be great for this job! It's too bad he doesn't have any business experience that he likes to talk about, so he couldn't be nominated as Secretary of Treasury or Commerce in a Republican administration.

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« Reply #3833 on: October 03, 2013, 08:27:28 PM »

2016: Scenarios (1)

Clinton/Warner: 283 (50.6%)
Martinez/Christie: 255 (48.1%)
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« Reply #3834 on: October 03, 2013, 11:07:21 PM »
« Edited: October 03, 2013, 11:09:08 PM by Adam Christopher FitzGerald »

2016 Likely Scenario:



Fmr. Sec. of State Hillary Clinton of New York/Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio - 375 EVs (56.8%)
Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky/Sen. Mike Lee of Utah - 163 EVs(41.3%)

Although Christie is going to be the underdog that the people want to win the 2016 GOP primary, 2012 gave good light that the Republican field will be filled with nobody but Tea Party idiots again in 2016 and while I think Christie could possibly win the popular, Paul will get the delegates for the nomination. It would be no surprise either then that he would pick one of the other 3 Stooges (Lee or Cruz), but simply because Cruz is starting to actually become an enemy of the Tea Party, Paul might be convinced to pick Lee instead.

Hillary I imagine then would pick someone who's of the opposite sex, is a fierce liberal like her, and is especially from a big, swing state. It could end up being Mark Warner, Michael Bennet, or his name has never mentioned for the job, but if he wins the Governorship in 2014, Ed FitzGerald could even be a better nominee than Brown to bring those young voters out.
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« Reply #3835 on: October 06, 2013, 08:35:40 AM »

Clinton/Warner: 295 (50.3%)
Snowe/Rubio: 243 (48.4%)
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« Reply #3836 on: October 14, 2013, 01:07:53 PM »

Should be fairly obvious.  Reps 261, Dems 277.

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« Reply #3837 on: October 15, 2013, 12:22:00 AM »
« Edited: October 15, 2013, 12:48:23 AM by Feudalcon »

1808 Presidential Race

President George Clinton (Independent/Fusion-New York) 161 electoral votes, 88% of the popualr vote
Unpledged Electors (Federalist) 10 electoral votes, 12% of the popular vote

1808 Vice Presidential Race

Senator John Quincy Adams (Federalist-Massachusetts) 115 electoral votes
Senator Stephen Bradley (Independent/Fusion-Vermont) 35 electoral votes
Vice President James Monroe (Republican-Virginia) 21 electoral votes

1812 Presidential Race

Former Vice President James Monroe (Republican-Virginia) 116 electoral votes, 51% of the popular vote
President John Quincy Adams (Federalist-Massachusetts) 99 electoral votes, 49% of the popular vote

1812 Vice Presidential Race

Former Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (Republican-Pennsylvania) 116 electoral votes
Former Mayor DeWitt Clinton (Fusion-New York) 56 electoral votes
U.S. Minister to Great Britain Rufus King (Federalist-New York) 43 electoral votes

1816 Presidential Race

Former Mayor DeWitt Clinton (Fusion-New York) 92 electoral votes, 38.1% of the popular vote
Former Senator Andrew Jackson (Republican-Tennessee) 87 electoral votes, 33.33% of the popular vote
Former President John Quincy Adams (Federalist-Massachusetts) 39 electoral votes, 28.6% of the popular vote
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« Reply #3838 on: October 17, 2013, 12:02:03 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2013, 09:01:17 PM by Michaelf7777777 »

Elections from a timeline where Carter is assasinated by John Hinckley in October 1980

1980



Walter Mondale/ Lawton Chiles - 270 EV's
Ronald Reagan/ George HW Bush - 268 EV's

1984



Walter Mondale/ Lawton Chiles - 418 EV's
Bob Dole/ Pete Wilson - 120 EV's

1988



George HW Bush/ Jack Kemp - 275 EV's
Lawton Chiles/ Mike Dukakis - 263 EV's

1992



Jerry Brown/ Bill Clinton - 276 EV's
George HW Bush/ Jack Kemp - 243 EV's
Ross Perot/ James Stockdale - 19 EV's

1996



Jerry Brown/ Bill Clinton - 330 EV's
Jack Kemp/ Pete Wilson - 208 EV's

2000



Bill Clinton/ Mary Landrieu - 371 EV's
George W Bush/ Dick Cheney - 167 EV's

2004



Bill Clinton/ Mary Landrieu - 329 EV's
Colin Powell/ Rudy Guiliani - 209 EV's

2008



John McCain/ Kay Bailey Hutchinson - 286 EV's
Barack Obama/ Joe Biden - 252 EV's

2012



Mary Landrieu/ Brian Schweitzer - 424 EV's
John McCain/ Kay Bailey Hutchinson - 114 EV's
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« Reply #3839 on: October 17, 2013, 12:45:18 PM »

Should be fairly obvious.  Reps 261, Dems 277.


2016: Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Former Governor Mike Beebe (D-AR) vs Senator John Hoeven (R-ND)/Governor Greg Abbott (R-TX)?
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« Reply #3840 on: October 17, 2013, 03:38:15 PM »

Should be fairly obvious.  Reps 261, Dems 277.


2016: Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Former Governor Mike Beebe (D-AR) vs Senator John Hoeven (R-ND)/Governor Greg Abbott (R-TX)?

He used the 2004/2008 EV #s.

Crap!  I actually meant it to be a 2016 but I guess the calc was on the wrong setting and I didn't notice!

Also, despite my love of Gillibrand, it isn't her.  Was supposed to be worse case scenario for Clinton in 2016 while still winning.
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« Reply #3841 on: October 20, 2013, 07:42:54 AM »

2016, 2020, 2024, 2028

Sec. of State. Hillary Clinton/Gov. Brian Schweitzer: 367 (53.9%)
Sen. Ted Cruz/Sen. Mike Lee: 171 (44.7%)

Pres. Hillary Clinton/Vice Pres. Brian Schweitzer: 357 (52.0%)
Sen. Kelly Ayotte/Sen. Tom Cotton: 181 (46.7%)

Sen. Julian Castro/Sen. Tim Kaine: 308 (50.0%)
Sen. Marco Rubio/Rep. Mia Love: 230 (48.7%)

Pres. Julian Castro/Vice Pres. Tim Kaine: 272 (47.6%)
Rep. Mia Love/Sen. Aaron Schock: 266 (50.8%)


Democrat's Lock on The White House: 2009-2033
44. Barack Obama: 2009-2017
45. Hillary Clinton: 2017-2025
46. Julian Castro: 2025-2033

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« Reply #3842 on: October 20, 2013, 09:36:48 PM »



This map has to do with place names.
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« Reply #3843 on: October 21, 2013, 02:00:00 PM »


Every other state via alphabetical order is colored red...
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« Reply #3844 on: October 21, 2013, 03:25:12 PM »


Based purely on looking at the Dakotas, the Carolinas, and all the "New"'s, that isn't the case.
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« Reply #3845 on: October 21, 2013, 06:44:59 PM »


Green-128
Red-92
Blue-19
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« Reply #3846 on: October 21, 2013, 07:35:48 PM »



Senator Alison Lundergan Grimes / Governor Julían Castro - 320, 52.2%
Governor Shelley Moore Capito / Senator Patrick Toomey - 218, 46.8%
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« Reply #3847 on: October 22, 2013, 04:57:40 AM »

2020



President Brian Schweitzer / Vice President Kirsten Gillibrand - 516; 58.4%
Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn / Senator Mike Lee - 22; 39.6%
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« Reply #3848 on: October 22, 2013, 12:28:05 PM »

Brian Schweitzer/Elizabeth Warren: 405 (54.3%)
Ted Cruz/Mike Lee: 133 (44.0%)
Other: 1.70%
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« Reply #3849 on: October 22, 2013, 04:24:00 PM »

Without the McDonnell gifts "scandal".


Brian Schweitzer/Kirsten Gillibrand: 319 (52.5%)
Bob McDonnell/Scott Walker: 219 (46.2%)
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