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« Reply #3800 on: August 11, 2013, 04:28:52 PM »

2016


Fmr. Gov. Jon Huntsman (R-UT)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL): 337
Vice Pres. Joe Biden (D-DE)/Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA): 201

Beautiful!
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1968

Gov. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Gov. Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 418
Vice Pres. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Sen. Edmund S. Muskie (D-ME): 67
Fmr. Gov. George Wallace (I-AL)/Mr. Curtis LeMay (I-OH): 53

1972

Pres. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Vice Pres. Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 507
Sen. George McGovern (D-SD)/Mr. Sargent Shriver (D-MD): 31

1976

Sen. Howard Baker (R-TN)/Sen. Richard Schweiker (R-PA): 368
Fmr. Gov. Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN): 170
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« Reply #3801 on: August 12, 2013, 02:25:22 PM »

2012


Obama (D-IL) / Biden (D-DE) 382 (53.1%)
Cain (R-GA) / Ayotte (R-NH)156 (45.3%)
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« Reply #3802 on: August 14, 2013, 06:50:01 PM »

Romney/Ryan: 295 (50.3%)
Obama/Biden: 243 (48.4%)
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« Reply #3803 on: August 15, 2013, 03:01:51 PM »

Romney/Ryan: 295 (50.3%)
Obama/Biden: 243 (48.4%)

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« Reply #3804 on: August 21, 2013, 07:37:33 PM »

McCain/Bush: 284 (50.01%)
Gore/Harkin: 254 (45.91%)
Nader/LaDuke: 0 (2.74%)
Other: 1.34%

McCain/Bush: 387 (54.95%)
Dean/Biden: 151 (43.51%)
Other: 1.54%

Clinton/Bayh: 317 (52.77%)
Bush/Thune: (45.80%)
Other: 1.43%

Snowe/Huntsman: 300 (50.70%)
Clinton/Bayh: 238 (48.09%)
Other: 1.29%
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« Reply #3805 on: August 22, 2013, 05:30:27 PM »
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2016



Clinton/Warner 402 (55.8%)

Cruz/Paul 136 (42.9%)

2020



Clinton/Warner 347 (52.1%)

Capito/Hoeven 191 (46.4%)

2024



Warner/Hassan 272 (48.1%)

Cotton/Walker 266 (50.3%)

*Assume this is still an EV/PV split scenario after reapportionment*

2028



Cotton/Tim Scott 54.2%

Warner/Hassan 44.4%
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« Reply #3806 on: August 23, 2013, 05:47:35 PM »

Now that Grimes has dropped out in my current timeline, I can post this map that I love.


2020



Senator Alison Lundergan Grimes / Frmr. Senator Joe Donnelly - 270
Frmr. Vice President Scott Walker / Senator Tim Scott - 268
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« Reply #3807 on: August 23, 2013, 10:45:40 PM »

Now that Grimes has dropped out in my current timeline, I can post this map that I love.


2020



Senator Alison Lundergan Grimes / Frmr. Senator Joe Donnelly - 270
Frmr. Vice President Scott Walker / Senator Tim Scott - 268
That looks close to the most geographically compact winning map possible.  Replacing CA with some Midwestern states is about all you could do to make it smaller.
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« Reply #3808 on: August 23, 2013, 11:11:30 PM »

I've always considered California as both southwest and the west coast (paired with oregon and washington). I guess you could swap Iowa with New Mexico. But to give up California, Grimes would need MO, IA, MI, WI, MN, ND, SD, and NE.
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« Reply #3809 on: August 24, 2013, 08:01:30 AM »

That looks close to the most geographically compact winning map possible.





*goes to the EVC and types up some random map*



Stripes are compact, are they not? Wink

(D: 300 R: 238 btw... Smiley )
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« Reply #3810 on: August 24, 2013, 06:29:06 PM »

Lovely mapsmanship!
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« Reply #3811 on: August 25, 2013, 01:44:18 PM »

Narrow R win, circa 2025:



Narrow D win, circa 2040:


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« Reply #3812 on: August 25, 2013, 07:15:15 PM »

1948

Fmr. Gov. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN)/Gov. Earl Warren (R-CA): 325
Pres. Harry S Truman (D-MO)/Sen. Alben Barkley (D-KY): 168
Gov. Strom Thurmond (SRD-SC)/Gov. Fielding Wright (SRD-MS): 38

1952

Pres. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN)/Vice Pres. Earl Warren (R-CA): 462
Gov. Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Sen. John Sparkman (D-AL): 69

1956

Vice Pres. Earl Warren (R-CA)/Sen. Everett Dirksen (R-IL): 362
Fmr. Gov. Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN): 169

1960

Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Sen. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 393
Pres. Earl Warren (R-CA)/Vice Pres. Everett Dirksen (R-IL): 144
Those look to be pretty accurate maps overall, although I doubt that Lyndon Johnson would have received 70% of the vote in West Virginia. While West Virginia mostly voted Democratic on the presidential level between 1932 and 2000, President Eisenhower won it by a comfortable margin when he was re-elected in 1956 and John F. Kennedy won it by a somewhat slim margin against Richard Nixon in 1960. That being said, Johnson would have probably only received 60% of the vote in West Virginia in 1960.
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« Reply #3813 on: August 31, 2013, 09:35:20 AM »

Rockefeller/Baker: 334 (43.4%)
Humphrey/Muskie: 161 (42.1%)
Wallace/LeMay: 53 (14.5%)
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« Reply #3814 on: August 31, 2013, 06:23:04 PM »

2008: Clinton/Bayh - 426 electoral votes. McCain/Palin - 112 electoral votes.

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« Reply #3815 on: September 04, 2013, 07:37:59 PM »



271/267
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« Reply #3816 on: September 04, 2013, 07:57:38 PM »

1992-2048: The Era of Democratic Dominance

1992


Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN): 370 EV
President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN): 168 EV

1996


President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TN): 379 EV
Senator Bob Dole (R-KS)/Former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Jack Kemp (R-NY): 159 EV

2000


Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)/Former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney (R-WY): 271 EV
Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 267 EV

2004



President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY): 286 EV
Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator John Edwards (D-NC): 252 EV

2008


Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE): 365 EV
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK): 173 EV

2012


President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE): 332 EV
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI): 206 EV

2016


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA): 313 EV
Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ)/Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM): 225 EV

2020

Former Governor Scott Walker (R-WI)/Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-NH): 279 EV
Vice President Mark Warner (D-VA)/Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC): 259 EV

2024


Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH)/Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY): 396 EV
President Scott Walker (R-WI)/Vice President Kelly Ayotte (R-NH): 142 EV

2028


Vice President Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Governor Julian Castro1 (D-TX): 366 EV
Senator Pam Bondi2 (R-FL)/Senator Mike Lee (R-UT): 172 EV

2032


President Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Vice President Julian Castro (D-TX): 481 EV
Senator Mike Lee (R-UT)/Governor Patrick McHenry (R-NC)3: 57 EV
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« Reply #3817 on: September 04, 2013, 07:58:09 PM »

2036


Vice President Julian Castro (D-TX)/Senator Alison Lundergan Grimes (D-KY)4: 504 EV
Governor Sara Howard (R-NE)5/Senator Dave Hildenbrand (R-MI)6: 34 EV

2040


President Julian Castro (D-TX)/Vice President Alison Lundergan Grimes (D-KY): 522 EV
Governor Art Linares (R-CT)7/Senator Mia Love (R-UT)8: 16 EV

2044


Governor Takashi Ohno (D-HI)9/Senator Justin Chenette (D-ME)10: 407 EV
Congressman Trey Joy (R-KS)11/Senate Minority Leader Will Weatherford12(R-FL): 131 EV

2048



Senator Joshua Putnam (R-SC)13/Governor Derek Merrin (R-OH)14
President Takashi Ohno (D-HI)/Vice President Justin Chenette (D-ME): 221 EV

2052


President Joshua Putnam (R-SC)/Vice President Derek Merrin (R-OH): 410 EV
Former Governor Justin Seese (D-PA)15/Congreswoman Sasha Obama (D-IL)16: 128 EV

1Elected Governor of Texas in 2018
2Elected U.S. Senator from Florida in 2018
3Elected Governor of North Carolina in 2028
4Elected U.S. Senator from Kentucky in 2014
5Elected Governor of Nebraska in 2030
6Elected U.S. Senator from Michigan in 2018
7Elected Governor of Connecticut in 2034
8Elected U.S. Senator from Utah in 2018
9Elected Governor of Hawaii in 2038
10Elected U.S. Senator from Maine in 2024
11Elected Congressman from Kansas's 1st District in 2030
12Elected U.S. Senator from Florida in 2030; Elected Senate Minority Leader in 2040
13Elected U.S. Senator from South Carolina in 2040
14Elected Governor of Ohio in 2042
15Served as Governor of Pennsylvania from 2038-2046
16Elected Congresswoman from Illinois' 2nd Congressional District in 2044
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« Reply #3818 on: September 04, 2013, 08:25:49 PM »

Awesome map series! I"m impressed that you changed all the electoral votes too; I'm planning on doing that for the election at the end of my TL. But FYI I have read that OH and NC are both going to be 17 electoral votes in the 2020s.. if you care Tongue


I'd love to see the 2056 map; I wanna know if Sasha wins!!!
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« Reply #3819 on: September 04, 2013, 08:48:23 PM »

Awesome map series! I"m impressed that you changed all the electoral votes too; I'm planning on doing that for the election at the end of my TL. But FYI I have read that OH and NC are both going to be 17 electoral votes in the 2020s.. if you care Tongue


I'd love to see the 2056 map; I wanna know if Sasha wins!!!

Thanks for the feedback! Just so you know, for the 2020s electoral votes, I used the projections in this article:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/12/28/what_2010_census_tells_us_about_2020_reapportionment.html

And for the rest, I just kind of guessed/made random decisions.

I'm not sure I'll continue, because it was a ton of work finding super young Mayors/state legislators to fill all the candidacies. Every candidate in every election I did is a real person currently in politics, mostly young Mayors and young State Senators/State Representatives.
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« Reply #3820 on: September 06, 2013, 02:49:13 PM »

2016



Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner 54.6% 390 EV
Ted Cruz/Pat McCrory 43.9% 148 EV

2020



Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner 50.2% 323 EV
Rand Paul/Mary Fallin 48.4% 215 EV
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« Reply #3821 on: September 06, 2013, 11:56:22 PM »

I'm a little offended that a ticket with Mary f[michigan] Fallin would do this well Wink
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« Reply #3822 on: September 15, 2013, 02:40:31 PM »

Sec. Hillary Clinton/Sen. Mark Warner: 288 (50.49%)
Sen. Marco Rubio/Gov. Jon Huntsman: 250 (48.29%)

Sen. Kelly Ayotte/Gov. Mike Pence: 278 (50.05%)
Vice Pres. Mark Warner/Sen. Cory Booker: 260 (48.51%)

Pres. Kelly Ayotte/Vice Pres. Mike Pence: 271 (49.75%)
Sen. Allison Grimes/Gov. Julian Castro: 267 (48.47%)

Gov. Julian Castro/Gov. Gavin Newsom: 300 (50.90%)
Gov. Scott Walker/Sen. Nikki Haley: 238 (47.99%)


Pres. Julian Castro/Vice Pres. Gavin Newsom: 391 (54.65%)
Sen. Tom Cotton/Schock: 147 (43.89%)
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« Reply #3823 on: September 20, 2013, 04:24:52 PM »

Vice Pres. Gore/Sen. Bradley: 350 (51.1%)
Sen. McCain/Gov. Kean: 188 (45.9%)
Other: 2.9%

Pres. Gore/Vice Pres. Bradley: 275 (49.4%)
Gov. Bush/Mayor Giuliani: 263 (49.3%)
Other: 1.3%

Mayor Giuliani/Gov. Huckabee: 400 (53.7%)
Vice Pres. Bradley/Gov. Dean: 138 (43.9%)
Other: 2.4%

Pres. Giuliani/Vice Pres. Huckabee: 337 (51.6%)
Gov. Richardson/Gov. O'Malley: 201 (46.8%)
Other: 1.6%

Gov. Clinton/Gov. Schweitzer: 293 (50.2%)
Vice Pres. Huckabee/Sen. Ayotte: 245 (48.4%)
Other: 1.4%
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« Reply #3824 on: September 21, 2013, 01:41:16 AM »
« Edited: September 22, 2013, 02:25:16 AM by badgate »



1988


Governor Mike Dukakis / Senator Lloyd Bentsen - 270
Vice President George H. W. Bush / Senator Dan Quayle - 268


1992


President Mike Dukakis / Vice President Lloyd Bentsen - 307
Congressman Jack Kemp / Governor Pete Wilson - 194
Businessman Ross Perot / James Stockdale - 37


1996


Governor Ann Richards / Governor Bill Clinton - 375
Senator Bob Dole / Conservative Pat Buchanan - 163

2000


President Ann Richards / Vice President Bill Clinton - 281
Senator George W. Bush / Speaker of the House Dick Cheney - 257


2004


Vice President Bill Clinton / Senator Russ Feingold - 238
Senator Olympia Snowe / Senator Arlen Specter - 300

2008 (no financial crisis)


Senator Joe Biden / Senator John Edwards - 200
President Olympia Snowe / Vice President Arlen Specter - 338


2012 (financial crisis of 2008 brought on by weak European austerity)


Senator Hillary Clinton / Senator Barack Obama - 372
Governor Mitt Romney / Senator Marco Rubio - 166


2016


President Hillary Clinton / Vice President Barack Obama - 293
Governor Christopher Christie / Governor Susanna Martinez - 245


2020


Vice President Barack Obama / Senator Brian Schweitzer - 391
Senator Tom Cotton / Majority Leader Paul Ryan - 147

2024


President Barack Obama / Vice President Brian Schweitzer - 237
Former UN Ambassador Jon Huntsman, Jr. / Senator Kelly Ayotte - 301


2028


Senator Martin O'Malley / Governor Debbie Wasserman-Schultz - 182
President Jon Huntsman, Jr. / Vice President Kelly Ayotte - 356
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