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[NHI]

√ Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) / Representative Jack Kemp (R-NY) 270 (47.3%)

President Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) 268 (46.6%)

Ross Perot (I-TX) / Pat Choate (I-DC) 0 (5.1%)

√ Pres. Bob Dole (R-KS) / Representative Jack Kemp (R-NY) 306 (50.9%)

Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ) / Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN) 232 (47.8%)

√ Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) / Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) 391 (52.9%)

Governor Howard Dean (D-VT) / Senator John Edwards (D-NC) 147 (45.4%)

√ Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) / Governor Mark Warner (D-VA) 336 (51.7%)

President Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) / Vice President Mike Huckabee (R-AR) 202 (46.8%)

√ President Evan Bayh (D-IN) / Vice President Mark Warner (D-VA) 305 (51.3%)

Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) / Senator John Thune (R-SD) 233 (47.4%)

[SPC]

Dewey 1944 vote total vs Dewey 1948 vote total

[badgate]

As promised here are the ORIGINAL maps for All Stand Down.

1988


Massachusetts Governor Mike Dukakis / Texas Senator Lloyd Bentsen - 112
Vice President George H. W. Bush / Indiana Senator Dan Quayle - 426

1992


Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton / Tennessee Senator Al Gore, Jr. - 370
President George H. W. Bush / Vice President Dan Quayle - 168

1996


Vice President Al Gore, Jr. / Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman - 280
Kansas Senator Bob Dole / Frmr. H.U.D. Secretary Jack Kemp - 249
Texas Independent Ross Perot / Pat Choate - 9

2000


President Al Gore, Jr. / Vice President Joe Lieberman - 267
Texas Governor George W. Bush / Frmr. Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney - 271

2004


Massachusetts Senator John Kerry / North Carolina Senator John Edwards - 232
Arizona Senator John McCain / Frmr. Oklahoma Rep. J.C. Watts - 306

2008


Illinois Senator Barack Obama / Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius - 325
Vice President J.C. Watts / Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee - 213

2012


New York Senator Hillary Clinton / Frmr. Indiana Senator Evan Bayh - 384
Frmr. Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney / Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan - 154

2016


New York Governor Andrew Cuomo / Florida Governor Alex Sink - 233
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie / Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey - 305

2020


Wisconsin Senator Tammy Baldwin / Pennsylvania Governor Joe Sestak - 271
President Chris Christie / Vice President Pat Toomey - 267

2024


President Tammy Baldwin / Vice President Joe Sestak* - 273**
Utah Governor Mia Love / Frmr. Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker - 265





*At the time, I was considering having Sestak be replaced when Baldwin ran for reelection, because of his age.
**The idea of Puerto Rican statehood had not come up at this point in the development, so its 7 electoral votes are not counted here.

[Potatoe]

California Senate 2006 with President Dean:



Businesswoman Meg Whitman (R): 49.21%
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D): 47.10%

[MadmanMotley]

The Battle of Vice-Presidents:
2000:

Fmr. VP Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Fmr. Secretary Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 290EV 48%
VP Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 248EV 47%
Mr. Ralph Nader (P-CT)/Winona LaDuke (P-CA) 5%

2004:

Pres. Dan Quayle (R-IN)/VP. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 303EV 46%
General Wesley Clark (D-AR)/Fmr Maj. Leader Dick Gerhardt (D-MO) 45%
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (P-OH)/Rep. Bernie Sanders (P-VT) 9%

[Potatoe]

Oops, changed it for Whitman to win bigger.

Kentucky Gubernatorial 2011


Secretary of State Trey Grayson/Former Superintendant John Stephenson (R): 44.41%
Governor Steve Beshear/Lieutenant Governor Jerry Abramson (D): 44.01%
Author Jerry Abramson/Varied in many Counties (I): 9.10%

[Maxwell]

Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador Henry Lodge Jr. (R-MA) - 50.05%, 270 EV's
Senator John Kennedy (D-MA)/Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) - 49.22%, 259 EV's



President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Vice President Henry Lodge Jr (R-MA) - 61.8%, 507 EV's
Senator Wayne Morse (D-OR)/Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN) - 36.8%, 31 EV's



Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 46.8%, 330 EV's
Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD) - 44.2%, 191 EV's
Governor George Wallace (I-AL)/Colonel Sanders (I-KY) - 8.5%, 17 EV's

[Potatoe]

Liberalism's last Hurrah:


1968


Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy/Texas Senator Ralph Yarborough: 293 EV, 40.30%
New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller/Iowa Senator Jack Miller: 75 EV, 30%
Alabama Governor George Wallace/Former Agriculture Secretary Ezra Taft Benson: 170 EV, 28.10%

1972


President Ted Kennedy/VP Ralph Yarborough: 270 EV, 49.80%
Maryland Governor Spirio Agnew/Ohio Senator James Rhodes: 268 EV, 47%

1976


New York Senator James Buckley/Wisconsin Governor William Dyke: 372 EV, 54.20%
Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukais/Arizona Rep. Mo Udall: 166 EV, 45.30%

1980


Presdent James Buckley/VP William Dyke: 305 EV, 45.40%
Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter/New Jersey Governor Brendan Byrne: 233 EV, 45.49%

[SPC]

Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador Henry Lodge Jr. (R-MA) - 50.05%, 270 EV's
Senator John Kennedy (D-MA)/Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) - 49.22%, 259 EV's



President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Vice President Henry Lodge Jr (R-MA) - 61.8%, 507 EV's
Senator Wayne Morse (D-OR)/Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN) - 36.8%, 31 EV's



Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 46.8%, 330 EV's
Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD) - 44.2%, 191 EV's
Governor George Wallace (I-AL)/Colonel Sanders (I-KY) - 8.5%, 17 EV's

Does Nixon veto the CRA in this timeline?

[Maxwell]

Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador Henry Lodge Jr. (R-MA) - 50.05%, 270 EV's
Senator John Kennedy (D-MA)/Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) - 49.22%, 259 EV's



President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Vice President Henry Lodge Jr (R-MA) - 61.8%, 507 EV's
Senator Wayne Morse (D-OR)/Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN) - 36.8%, 31 EV's



Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 46.8%, 330 EV's
Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD) - 44.2%, 191 EV's
Governor George Wallace (I-AL)/Colonel Sanders (I-KY) - 8.5%, 17 EV's

Does Nixon veto the CRA in this timeline?

Oh damn.

I'll try again.

[Maxwell]

1960: Nixon narrowly beats Kennedy



Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador Henry Lodge Jr. (R-MA) - 50.05%, 270 EV's
Senator John Kennedy (D-MA)/Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) - 49.22%, 259 EV's

1964: After signing the Civil Rights Act, Nixon beats Wallace in a landslide



President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Vice President Henry Lodge Jr (R-MA) - 61.8%, 485 EV's
Governor George Wallace (D-AL)/Governor J. William Fullbright (D-AR) - 36.8%, 53 EV's

1968: Jackson narrowly upsets Vice President Lodge



Senator Scoop Jackson (D-WA)/Senator George Smathers (D-FL) - 45.5%, 296 EV's
Vice President Henry Lodge (R-MA)/Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) - 45.3%, 203 EV's
Governor George Wallace (I-AL)/Colonel Harland Sanders (I-KY) - 9.2%, 39 EV's

[Maxwell]

1972 - In spite of the unpopularity of Vietnam, President Jackson narrowly beats Senator Hatfield



President Scoop Jackson (D-WA)/Vice President George Smathers (D-FL) - 51.2%
Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/House Minority Leader Gerald Ford (R-MI) - 48.1%
Others - 0.7%

[DKrol]

Senator J. Strom Thurmond/Gen. Curtis LeMay (R) - 363
Governor George C. Wallace/Governor Lester Maddox (D) - 175

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

Senator J. Strom Thurmond/Gen. Curtis LeMay (R) - 363
Governor George C. Wallace/Governor Lester Maddox (D) - 175

*drinks self into a coma*

[badgate]

I'm curious about your 30% saturation states. Are there favorite son candidates in the Carolinas and Northeast? Or is there a single, pro-integration Democrat whom you did not list? Or is there another explanation?

[DKrol]

I'm curious about your 30% saturation states. Are there favorite son candidates in the Carolinas and Northeast? Or is there a single, pro-integration Democrat whom you did not list? Or is there another explanation?

Speaker John McCormack is running a New Egland favorite son campaign. He also put up a show in Minnesota. Governor Robert McNair is doing the same on the South.

[NHI]

Kerry: 277 (50.1%)

Bush: 261 (48.7%)

-- possible future timeline.

[NHI]

√ Mitt Romney: 270 (64,349,999) 49.6%

Barack Obama: 268 (63,785,666) 49.2%

Other: 0 (1,540,679) 1.2%

Ohio:

√ Mitt Romney: 49.6%

Barack Obama: 49.2%

Virginia:

√ Mitt Romney: 49.6%

Barack Obama: 49.4%

Florida:

√ Mitt Romney: 50.0%

Barack Obama: 49.1%

New Hampshire:

√ Mitt Romney: 50.1%

Barack Obama: 48.9%

[Skill and Chance]

Kerry: 277 (50.1%)

Bush: 261 (48.7%)

-- possible future timeline.

A Kerry win in retrospect would be the best thing that could ever happen to modern Republicans.  Sort of like Cleveland finally sneaking through at just the wrong time in 1892.  Unless Kerry could unilaterally avoid/mitigate the financial crisis, which I doubt.

[Cath]

The Rise of the Machines, Continued

The 2008 General Election

While the Governator selected freshman Senator "Jeb" Bush of Florida for Vice President, John Edwards would exit the Democratic National Convention leading a party that was united in image only. Left-wing activists were quite alienated by the ticket comprised only of politicians from Republican states and headed by Edwards, who had created an image of a blue collar, moderate hawk. Meanwhile, suburbanites and moderate voters were tired of recessions and tax hikes, the hallmarks of Gore's domestic policy. Even the Democrats' right wing weren't overly fond of the slick, substance lacking North Carolina Senator, seen by many as merely a political opportunist. The Schwarzenegger campaign, meanwhile, had managed to bring conservatives--long sick of being out of power--into the fold while also appealing to moderates and even some liberals. Battling through his accent and managing to crush Edwards in the debates, everything came together for the Republican ticket and the Republican party.

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA)/Senator John Ellis "Jeb" Bush (R-FL) 366 electoral votes, 54.1%% of the popular vote
Senator John Edwards (D-CA)/Governor Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS) 172 electoral votes, 44.8% of the popular vote
Mr. Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Mr. Matthew Gonzalez (I-CA) 0 electoral votes, .5% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, .6% of the popular vote

Coming into office, the new President was determined to create a bi-partisan cabinet to usher in his bi-partisan agenda. While there was some speculation that outgoing Vice President Joe Lieberman might be chosen for Secretary of State, those were nixed as the Schwarzenegger administration didn't want its initiatives associated with Gore. Instead, Senator John McCain of Arizona was chosen for State. There would, however, be a few Democrats taking cabinet positions, including former Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey at Defense, and Oregon Governor Ted Kulongoski at Energy.

Among Schwarzenegger's first term initiatives would be the successful implementation of policies to battle climate change, an area where Gore had experienced a political route. In foreign policy, a new strategy called the "troop surge" would be put in place in Afghanistan, with a focus on steadily securing various sectors of Afghanistan. In order to revitalize the economy, the President signed off on some of the first tax cuts since the 1980's. While several protested what were referred to as "fiscally irresponsible" policies, it was pointed out that the economy was in no state to survive as it currently was. By 2011, the deficit had remained largely static as the improving economy battled what might have otherwise been decreased revenues. Meanwhile, an amount of domestic spending had been transferred to defense to fund the surge.

The 2012 Democratic Primaries

The main grassroots left-wing support would fall behind former Vermont Governor Howard Dean. Despite having been out of office for nearly ten years by 2012, his 2008 campaign had created a large following. While initially planning not to run, the massive calling for him to run, combined with what he labeled as "an attempt at turning our military into a Schwarzeneggerian world police", Dean finally announced in June 2011, immediately jumping to second in the polls behind establishment candidate, "sensible" John Kerry. Kerry, attempting to use his Senate and military experience to create an electable persona, would ironically be his fellow New Englander's main opposition. In the South, however, former North Carolina Governor Erskine Bowles would tout himself as a moderate voice of fiscal responsibility. While those in both the party leadership and the grassroots were unwilling to accept another North Carolinian, Southerners and moderates were looking for someone that could have crossover appeal.

Nevertheless, Dean would easily win Iowa and take second place in both New Hampshire and South Carolina,


Green - Former Governor Howard Dean of Vermont
Blue - Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts
Red - Former Governor Erskine Bowles of North Carolina

While there would be tremendous pressure for Dean to choose Bowles or one of Kerry's establishment supporters--obviously, a Vermont/Massachusetts ticket wouldn't go over well--Dean sought to buck the trend of Southern nominees in the party that had existed since 1988. Instead, in choosing supporter Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, Dean was part of the first entirely non-Southern Democrat ticket since the mid-'80's.

The 2012 General Election

While several left-wing activists were optimistic about the chances of the Dean campaign, a recovering economy combined with the lack of a truly unpopular war to run against--the Schwarzenegger administration's actions had allowed for the war to be pushed to the public backburner--Dean was left without a leg to stand on. With the President having a moderate and pro-environmental record, Dean was easily attacked as a "left-wing extremist" who would endanger America's economic and foreign policy interests. In that light, Dean lost even more easily than expected.

President Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA)/Vice President John Ellis "Jeb" Bush (R-FL) 486 electoral votes, 57.1% of the popular vote
Former Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) 52 electoral votes, 41.2% of the popular vote
Former Governor Gary E. Johnson (L-NM)/Justice James P. Gray (L-CA) 0 electoral votes, 1.1% of the popular vote
Former Congressman Virgil Goode (C-VA)/Former Party Chairman James N. Clymer (C-PA) 0 electoral votes, .5% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, .1% of the popular vote

Of note would be the low vote totals for the Republican presidential ticket in Appalachia relative to the rest of the nation. This would be due to the administration's perceived stance against coal. Thus, the Constitution ticket, headed by former Congressman Virgil Goode, who received as high as 4% of the vote in West Virginia. Gary Johnson would also receive the highest vote percentage of a Libertarian presidential candidate due, in large part, failure by the administration to appease fiscal conservatives and civil libertarians. Political scientists and historians would later credit Schwarzenegger's appeal to the Republican base--in light of his policies--to his image and personal popularity, combined with his foreign policy and comparisons to Reagan.

[Potatoe]

Brighter Days for Bret Schundler

New Jersey Gubernatorial 2005

Due to President Kerry's bumbling about with Bailouts and Banking Reform, Bret Schundler pulls out an upset in New Jersey and beats Senator Corzine, this race was notable due to Corzine having a horrendous Debate performances, and speaker at the RNC conference Chris Christie being elected to a state senate seat.


Mayor Bret Schundler: 49.29%
Senator Jon Corzine: 48.42%

New Jersey Gubernatorial 2009

After Kerry's narrow re election over Governor Romney and retaking of the Senate by Democrats, things looked up in New Jersey, where the auto industry was booming, taxes were low and the Governor was popular, though Democrats were finding a good Candidate in State Senator Barbara Buono, who was popular in her own district and easily beat out former Governor Codey for the Nomination, but in late June, with an Invasion of Iran looming, and the Stock market crash, Buono was investigated for Corruption. While it was proven that Buono wasn't corrupt, it irreparably damaged her and gave some great cannon fodder for Incumbent Schundler.


Governor Bret Schundler: 57.29%
State Senator Barbara Buono: 39.24%

[TNF]

1840



President Martin Van Buren (D-NY) 53
William Henry Harrison (W-OH) 168
James Birney (Liberty-NY) 73


1844



Henry Clay (W-KY) 87
James Polk (D-TN) 150
James Birney (L-NY) 38


1848



Lewis Cass (D-MI) 118
Zachary Taylor (W-LA) 109
Martin Van Buren (Free Soil-NY) 63

Election thrown to Congress. Cass elected President by the House, Senate elects William Butler Vice President.


1852



President Lewis Cass (D-NH) 236
John P. Hale (FS-NH) 36
Winfield Scott (W-NJ) 24


1856



James Buchanan (D-PA) 135
John Fremont (R-CA) 114
George Law (American-NY)

Election thrown to the Congress. Buchanan elected President by the House of Representatives, Breckinridge elected Vice President by the Senate.


1860



Stephen Douglas (D-IL) 89
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) 103
John Bell (Constitutional Union-TN) 57
John C. Breckinridge (Southern Democratic-KY) 54

Election thrown to Congress. House votes to elect Lincoln President, Senate votes to elect Hamlin Vice President.


1864



Pres. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) 173
George B. McClellan (D-NJ) 60


1868



Ulysses S. Grant (R-IL) 214
Horatio Seymour (D-NY) 80


1872



Pres. Ulysses S. Grant (R-IL) 269
Horace Greeley (Liberal Republican/Democratic-NY) 46
Charles O'Conor (Straight-Out Democrat/Labor Reform-NY) 37


1876



Samuel Tilden (D-NY) 169
Rutherford Hayes (R-OH) 137
Peter Cooper (Labor Reform-NY) 63

Election thrown to Congress. House elects Tilden President, while the Senate elects Wheeler Vice President.


1880



Pres. Samuel Tilden (D-NY) 133
James Garfield (R-OH) 186
James Weaver (Labor-IA) 50


1884



James G. Blaine (R-ME) 122
Grover Cleveland (D-NY) 219
Benjamin Butler (L-MA) 60


1888



Pres. Grover Cleveland (D-NY) 132
Benjamin Harrison (R-IN) 180
Alson Streeter (Labor-IL) 89

Election thrown to the Congress. House elects Harrison President, Senate elects Morton Vice President.


1892



Pres. Benjamin Harrison (R-IN) 120
Grover Cleveland (D-NY) 259
James Weaver (L-IA) 65


1896



John Palmer (D-IL) 138
William McKinley (R-OH) 195
William Bryan (L-NE) 114

Election thrown to Congress. House elects McKinley President, Senate elects Hobart Vice President.

[TNF]

1900



Pres. William McKinley (R-OH) 272
George Dewey (D-VT) 90
William Bryan (L-NE) 85


1904



Pres. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) 272
Eugene Debs (L-IN) 118
Grover Cleveland (D-NY) 86


1908



William Taft (R-OH) 183
William Bryan (L-NE) 215
Alton Parker (D-NY) 85

Election thrown to the House and the Senate. House votes to elect Taft President, Senate votes to elect Sherman Vice President.


1912



William Taft (R-OH) 22
Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) 346
Eugene Debs (L-IN) 92
Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive-NY) 71


1916



Pres. Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) 187
Charles E. Hughes (R-NY) 189
Allan Benson (L-NY) 155

House re-elects Wilson President, Senate re-elects Marshall Vice President.


1920



James Cox (D-OH) 121
Warren Harding (R-OH) 249
Eugene Debs (L-IN) 161

House elects Harding President, Senate elects Coolidge Vice President.


1924



Pres. Calvin Coolidge (R-MA) 217
Robert La Follette (L-WI) 184
John W. Davis (D-WV) 130

House re-elects Coolidge, Senate elects Charles Dawes Vice President. Following this election, the House and Senate approve, and the states ratify, the 21st Amendment, which abolishes the electoral college, providing for a runoff election in the event that no candidate has a majority of the popular vote.


1928



Herbert Hoover (R-IA)
Norman Thomas (L-NY)
William McAdoo (D-CA)


1932 (Round 1)



Pres. Herbert Hoover (R-IA)
John Nance Garner (D-TX)
Norman Thomas (L-NY)

1932 (Round 2)



Norman Thomas (L-NY)
John Nance Garner (D-TX)


1936



Pres. Norman Thomas (L-NY)
Rep. Henry Breckinridge (D-NY)
Alf Landon (R-KS)


1940



Pres. Henry Breckinridge (D-NY)
Norman Thomas (L-NY)
Robert Taft (R-OH)


1944



Harry Truman (D-MO)
Henry Wallace (L-IA)
Robert Taft (R-OH)

[Skill and Chance]

2016



Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 49.11% 299 EV
Paul Ryan (R-WI)/Rob Portman (R-OH) 49.08% 239 EV


Warren trails throughout the campaign until a video of Ryan condemning social security and medicare as "the two gravest mistakes our country has ever made" surfaces in late September.  Ryan appears to have won the popular vote until several weeks after the election and WI flips in a recount.

Closest States

WI
48.87%/48.85%

CO
48.6%/48.5%

PA
49.7%/48.9%

IA
50.0%/49.0%

VA
50.3%/48.6%

OH
50.5%/48.2%

FL
50.7%/48.0%


2020 



Pres. Elizabeth Warren/VP Mark Warner 56.1% 402 EV
Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Rand Paul (R-KY) 42.6% 136 EV

The grassroots take control of the primary this time, but the result is an Ike-level win for Warren in a relatively strong economy.  The House also flips to the Democrats for the first time since 2008.

[NHI]

2016



Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 49.11% 299 EV
Paul Ryan (R-WI)/Rob Portman (R-OH) 49.08% 239 EV


Warren trails throughout the campaign until a video of Ryan condemning social security and medicare as "the two gravest mistakes our country has ever made" surfaces in late September.  Ryan appears to have won the popular vote until several weeks after the election and WI flips in a recount.

Closest States

WI
48.87%/48.85%

CO
48.6%/48.5%

PA
49.7%/48.9%

IA
50.0%/49.0%

VA
50.3%/48.6%

OH
50.5%/48.2%

FL
50.7%/48.0%


2020 



Pres. Elizabeth Warren/VP Mark Warner 56.1% 402 EV
Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Rand Paul (R-KY) 42.6% 136 EV

The grassroots take control of the primary this time, but the result is an Ike-level win for Warren in a relatively strong economy.  The House also flips to the Democrats for the first time since 2008.

Oh the horror! President Warren!