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Question: The Kerry states will....
#1
gain electoral votes
 
#2
stay the same
 
#3
lose 1-6
 
#4
lose 7 (like the Gore states)
 
#5
lose more than 7
 
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CARLHAYDEN
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E: 1.38, S: -0.51

« on: May 07, 2005, 11:48:05 AM »

Its clearly a little early to predict the reapportionment which will follow the 2010 census, but it seems to me that if the current trends continue, the "Kerry" states are likely to lose 4-5 (net) congressional districts.

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CARLHAYDEN
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E: 1.38, S: -0.51

« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2005, 07:39:40 PM »

Nice to see you posting again.

As I said earlier, I think its a little premature to project the 2010 population with too much accuracy.

I am skeptical of the growth of California continuing,

Also the projected loss in Alabama seems to me to be doubtful.
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CARLHAYDEN
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E: 1.38, S: -0.51

« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2005, 10:59:51 PM »

I assume we used the same census estimates, but we have slight differences. I'm curious what you used for the projections.

Based upn the US Census Burea projections for 2010 population, when the next census will be done....

State   CDs    EVs    EV now Gain/loss
AK   1      3      3      0
AL   6      8      9      -1 (I have no change, AL gets seat 433.)
AR   4      6      6      0
AZ   9      11     10     +1
CA   54     56     55     +1
CO   7      9      9      0
CT   5      7      7      0
DE   1      3      3      0
FL   26     28     27     +1 (I have FL +2, and would get +3 with seat 438)
GA   14     16     15     +1
HI   2      4      4      0
IA   4      6      7      -1
ID   2      4      4      0
IL   18     20     21     -1
IN   9      11     11     0
KS   4      6      6      0
KY   6      8      8      0
LA   7      9      9      0 (I have LA -1, and only get the next seat at 440)
MA   9      11     12     -1
MD   8      10     10     0
ME   2      4      4      0
MI   15     17     17     0
MN   8      10     10     0
MO   8      10     11     -1
MS   4      6      6      0
MT   1      3      3      0
NC   13     15     15     0
ND   1      3      3      0
NE   3      5      5      0
NH   2      4      4      0
NJ   13     15     15     0
NM   3      5      5      0
NV   4      6      5      +1
NY   28     30     31     -1 (I have NY -2, they get their next seat at 437)
OH   16     18     20     -2
OK   5      7      7      0
OR   5      7      7      0
PA   18     20     21     -1
RI   2      4      4      0
SC   6      8      8      0
SD   1      3      3      0
TN   9      11     11     0
TX   35     37     34     +3
UT   4      6      5      +1
VA   11     13     13     0
VT   1      3      3      0
WA   9      11     11     0
WI   8      10     10     0
WV   3      5      5      0
WY   1      3      3      0

Bottom Line - Red states are +3 (so, I get red +4)

For those into math, this is how it is done...

http://www.census.gov/population/www/censusdata/apportionment/computing.html

I did it fairly fast, I'll recheck my math... Smiley

While I generally agree with you, I suspect that Alabama will NOT lose a seat and California will NOT gain a seat.

My reason for this difference is that I am not using straight line projections, but rather changes in rate of growth.  The California net rate of growth is declining and will not continue at the present rate through 2010 while I expect the Alabama rate to slightly increase (basically, California is becoming too expensive and Alabama will increasingly become a retirement mecca due to lost cost of living).
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