The Social Liberals

[Barnes]

x Barnes

I've wanted to play a radical center party for quite some time!  I've always thought one of the merits of an online game is that you can play an ideology different (if not, in this case, so radically so) from one's own.

[Barnes]

And adding to the discussion on leadership positions, the split idea of a parliamentary leader and a chairman is the only way to really work in a parliamentary.  Now, of course, the former position is the true leader of the party in RL settings, but the delineation of authority is for us to decide I suppose.

[Barnes]

I've prepared a draft constitution.  Please give feedback and suggestions - particularly to the sections in red.

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[Talleyrand]

I think platform votes shouldn't last longer than a week at most. Considering this will (hopefully) be a more fast-paced game than Atlasia, I'd suggest we do a maximum of one week for the vote, but with the option to end it earlier if no debate occurs for 24 hours.

As for the parliamentary leadership, I think that we should let the whole membership vote on it, but to take out a sitting leader who doesn't intend to resign, you should need the support of 1/3 of the party's parliamentary members to force a spill.

Since there were no objections raised, I've tentatively put down myself as parliamentary leader and Vega as chairman. SJoyce or Blair, are you interested in running for deputy leader?

Again, debate on the platform and constitution is welcome/encouraged.

[Barnes]

Election by the full party would seem best at the moment anyway, I agree.

The time limits for conference seem fine to me.  Are we OK with having the conference every six months?

Additionally, I haven't put anything in regarding the drawing up of party lists for elections.  I thought it was best to get ideas from everyone first.

[Talleyrand]

For a party list, I think the party leader and deputy leader might automatically be No. 1 and No. 2 on it, but that isn't necessary. For the rest, we can probably do an election, or have the party leadership put out a list after discussion with the membership? I'd probably prefer the former for fairness's sake.

I think for a party list, we can either put the whole party on it in some form (with those less interested in being MPs at the bottom, etc.) or put a limit on the number of candidates we want to put.

[Barnes]

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[Donerail]

I'd suggest changing article 6 of chapter 4 to approval voting - the candidate most popular with the party ranked third, the next most popular fourth, etc, with ties broken by the elected leadership. Length of the list could be limited by only including those who received over 50% approval.

I'd be interested in standing for Deputy Leader.

[Barnes]

Sounds fine with me, SJoyce. I just threw in something that I thought could work as a placeholder.

Would someone be interested in writing the specifics? 

[Donerail]

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Also, any ideas as to a party logo?

[Barnes]

I've updated my second post to reflect the changes.

I was going to put something about the logo, but I see that Talley already has something in the OP.  I'd be highly interested in using something already in use by a South American party.

[Talleyrand]

I think our party color should be some shade of green, to differentiate ourselves from the other parties (who have gone with shades or red or blue as far as I can see) or yellow, which is common with European liberal parties.

Our temporary logo is the torch/leaf thing.



Here are some logos from other members of Liberal International so we can get some more ideas out there.











Edit: Just saw Barnes's post. I'd be open to using something by a South American Party too if that's what people want.

[Barnes]

I'm a fan of the clover from the Centerpartiet.

[Donerail]

Only issue with the clover is that it's traditionally been more of a symbol of agrarianism than liberalism per se. I'm partial to the DA's myself, but we may want to wait until a national flag is determined (it uses the flag of SA - presumably we'd want to change that). I agree with Talleyrand on using green though.

[Barnes]

I was initially going to go with the DA's symbol but had reservations because Atlasia had a similar party and logo several years ago.  It really wouldn't be a big deal however.

[Blair]

I'm a fan of the clover myself

[Barnes]

I just whipped these up online.  Feedback appreciated.

[BaconBacon96]

I'm personally a fan of the Liberty Bird. There's already a green one in existence.

[Hash]

I guess I'll join this party

[Barnes]

I guess I'll join this party

Yea!  Welcome, dear Caudillo!

[Vega]

I guess I'll join this party

Salutations!

As for the party symbol, I think we should punt on that till the national flag is designed.

[Barnes]

I don't see the reasons for a delay, to be honest, all of the other parties have decided on logos.

However, we do have an interim banner, so if we go into an election shortly we can always use that to get us through.

[Blair]

I'd like to run to be Deputy leader as well

[Talleyrand]

I guess I'll join this party

Wonderful news! Welcome.


We can use the interim logo until the national flag is decided, unless people want to move already, which is also fine. I personally like the color scheme on Barnes's first logo, but I also like the idea of some sort of bird symbol, as BaconBacon has suggested.

Are there any other declarations for chairman, leader, and deputy leader, btw?

[Vega]

I don't see the reasons for a delay, to be honest, all of the other parties have decided on logos.

However, we do have an interim banner, so if we go into an election shortly we can always use that to get us through.

I think the question, at least for me, is whether we use a nice text logo (like the Conservatives and Workers Party), or a more symbolic logo.