Politics and Elections in the Netherlands: coalition agreement presented

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What are CU and SGP views on current situation with mass influx of Albanian, Afgan and Syrian immigrants?

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SGP's position is that helping refugees "is a part of Christian culture that has left its mark on our continent", but is against "opening all doors for asylum seekers". Party leader Kees van der Staaij said that we should help anyone who genuinely needs help. However, the government should continue to stay critical and reluctant: "Whoever doesn't really need to be here, needs to be discouraged." He thinks it's problematic to select refugees who are already in our country on the basis of religion, but if we are inviting people who aren't in our country yet, we should prioritize Christians.

O tempora, o mores
I agree with radical heretics.

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I am sometimes reading.

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Question maybe stupid, maybe not:

why the hell the Netherlands make referendum on such irrelevant for them thing?

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Probably the stupidest referendum I ever had chance to notice.

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Probably the stupidest referendum I ever had chance to notice.

You guys had a referendum about your electoral system for the general election that got 15% turnout and was ignored two weeks later in the actual general election, right?

Because it was part of electoral campaign
But it was also stupid.

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David I probably asked that questions already but what is the approach of SGP or CU on Catholic voters if there are any?

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Thank you for the answer.

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In other (real) news, pollster Kantar (formerly TNS NIPO) found that among 18 to 25-year olds, 21% intend to vote PVV. Among those who are certain to vote in March, this percentage is 33% (!).

Good news! Wilders on course to get a big lead.

How is that good news?

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PVV is nothing close to Christianity, if they want to have future "in Christian nation" they should vote SGP not some sh**tty populists. And I am not even going to comment that Islamic Nation part.

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PVV is nothing close to Christianity, if they want to have future "in Christian nation" they should vote SGP not some sh**tty populists. And I am not even going to comment that Islamic Nation part.

What says everything about you and your knowledge in the topic. I'm glad Polish people (and government) are way different from you.

But I can't understand why: The problems with Muslim Iimigration and their Population growth aren't anything new, it's not hard to understand that more and more % of Muslim population leads to an Islamic state. That's what history teaches us. Turkey was a Christian country once.

The problems and discussions aren't over or finished when you call the other person bad names. You only show that you don't have the arguments on your side.

First of all I don't even understand how you got the feeling that I am somehow different compared to other Polish people (if we consider that nations can be summed up as bundle of characteristics) while I prefer SGP than PVV.

Turkey never was Christian country, it exists since 1920's as a republic. And what history teach us that mistreatment of religious minorities lead to pogroms, tensions and in the best cases to mild alienation like Jews or Armenians in Eastern Europe. And Ottoman Empire did the same. If one ethnic group create paralel society to majority population society it never ends ups well. If there is problem with Muslim immigrants is that Western countries failed to create them good conditions to live and raise their children. Ghettoisation, radicalization are serious social problems and its not enough just to shout that "oh Muslims out". It take some time for immigrants to accommodate to local conditions , rules and institutions but this is possible. And this is role of host state to work in such way to fight with all social problems, but with reason. Polarization of society never works well, and this is what parties like PVV are willingly or unwillingly are doing. 

If you brought here case of Poland this country is good example of Muslim minority living well with majority, they are not big but there was period in history when there were more of them (population in Poland is small but there are also Lipka Tatars in Lithuania and Belarus). Some of them were involved in independence movement in XIX century, they were fighting with Germans in 1939, they contributed a lot giving a lot of social activists, military officers, clerks, doctors etc. But earlier Tatars migrating to Poland-Lithuania were given noble rights equal to what Poles, Ruthenians or Lithuanians had. That made them possible to coexist with other religious groups.

If some nation have problem with migrants so probably that is that nation fault, not the migrants. And if you fear that your country will no longer be Christian I have bad news for you - it is not caused by Muslims, it is caused by you all and fact that Western nations are no longer Christian. And this is funny that especially young people votes on parties like PVV or Front National. The same young people who use drugs, do not attend to Mass and do not pray. Terrains where AfD in Germany is the strongest, so post-DDR lands are predominantly atheist so if you are afraid of other religions better try to follow your one.

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>JEZUS LEEFT



Is this some kind of joke-party?

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Their webpage looks kinda creepy.

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Link is not working.

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Ok, its working. What does the answers mean? Probably this is "agree, not sure, disagree" but I want to be sure.

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Thanks.


Artikel 1: 60% (would never vote)
Socialistische Partij: 60%
50PLUS: 53%
DENK: 53%
ChristenUnie: 50%
Piratenpartij: 50% (ugh, disgusting)
NIEUWE WEGEN: 50%
Partij voor de Dieren: 50%
Partij van de Arbeid: 47%
GroenLinks: 47%
Lokaal in de Kamer: 43%
De Burger Beweging: 43%
Partij voor de Vrijheid: 40%
Vrijzinnige Partij: 40%
Christen-Democratisch Appèl: 37% (my heart is broken)
Democraten 66: 33%
Ondernemers Partij: 27%
Forum voor Democratie: 27%
Staatkundig Gereformeerde Partij: 27% (I am shocked that so low, probably because there were little questions about social issues or they are very free-market oriented)
VoorNederland: 20%
Niet Stemmers: 17%
GeenPeil: 17%
Libertarische Partij: 13%


I am confused.

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Can we say that CDA growth of poll support is somehow connected to the Buma? Or rather poor campaign by Rutte?

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Why has Schiermonnikoog turnout 130,4%? Tourists?

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Well, so basically everybody but PvdA claim that they achieved a success as now I read what leaders/speakers said on media? Kinda cute. I am glad that CU maybe will get one more MP. But Kuzu and Ozturk in parliament is kind of sad joke.

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Makes no sense to take the exit poll too literally. As if Roemer lost 1 seat. We don't know yet. Last time around they treated CU as if they had won for the first two hours or so, but they remained stable at 5 anyway. SP could as well have 15 seats this time around and not lose anything, CU could as well have 5 and not win anything. NOS are getting ahead of themselves once again. Let's wait for actual results coming in for parties for which the margins are this small.

Do not kill the fun

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Why is the CDA doing so well in the north? Isn't that leftist country?

North is PvdA and CDA country. Populist and liberal parties arent doing well there

East Groningen begs to differ.

True, its more the rust belt.

This map will explain much of the Dutch electoral map
In the civil belt, CDA should be stronger than the VVD if they are close

Can anyone translate that map to English?

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So this is not how politics look like? What is extraordinary in what that woman wrote?

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Hey guys, do you know that Dutch people are forming government very long?

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Excuse me, but I would like to know if the Dutch people have their new govt already? Thank you for the answer in advance.

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Ech, Polish fans of Korwin will get orgasm when they will receive info about that govt agenda.