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« Reply #1275 on: March 15, 2017, 09:49:10 AM »
« edited: March 15, 2017, 09:51:16 AM by SunSt0rm »

Turnout Den Bosch, city in the south, 41.6% at 14h, was 31.7% in 2012
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« Reply #1276 on: March 15, 2017, 09:50:31 AM »

The next hour should already see a significant uptick in voting numbers in Rotterdam's and Utrecht's real-time page ...

Hopefully turnout doesn't collapse in the evening.
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« Reply #1277 on: March 15, 2017, 10:01:03 AM »

Turnout 15:45 43%, in 2012 it was 37%
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« Reply #1278 on: March 15, 2017, 10:03:56 AM »

Insane lines at some Amsterdam polling stations
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« Reply #1279 on: March 15, 2017, 10:46:58 AM »

Ipsos expects turnout to be 80.2%, slightly lower than in 2006 (80.4%) but higher than in 1994, 1998, 2002, 2003, 2010 and 2012.
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« Reply #1280 on: March 15, 2017, 10:59:13 AM »

The bluer, the closer to the national average the voting pattern of the municipality is.

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« Reply #1281 on: March 15, 2017, 11:04:02 AM »

When should results come in?
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« Reply #1282 on: March 15, 2017, 11:07:06 AM »

Turnout in Rotterdam is going up like a rocket, 48.2% now. Big spike in turnout between 16 and 17. Migrant areas stay behind. Potentially good news for the PVV.
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« Reply #1283 on: March 15, 2017, 11:08:34 AM »

Polls close at 9 and there will be an exit poll at 9. Most of the vote will come in after 10:30/11.
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« Reply #1284 on: March 15, 2017, 11:09:25 AM »

The bluer, the closer to the national average the voting pattern of the municipality is.


Who was supposed to do better in the darker blue areas?
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« Reply #1285 on: March 15, 2017, 11:10:12 AM »

Polls close at 9 and there will be an exit poll at 9. Most of the vote will come in after 10:30/11.

EDT/CDT ?
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« Reply #1286 on: March 15, 2017, 11:10:59 AM »

Polls close at 9 and there will be an exit poll at 9. Most of the vote will come in after 10:30/11.

EDT/CDT ?
It will be 5:00 Eastern, I think. 9 GMT
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« Reply #1287 on: March 15, 2017, 11:18:09 AM »

9 Dutch time, not 9 GMT. No idea what all these other abbreviations are.
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« Reply #1288 on: March 15, 2017, 11:18:44 AM »

The Netherlands is on CET, not GMT. So polls close at 8PM GMT, if I understand correctly.
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« Reply #1289 on: March 15, 2017, 11:19:26 AM »

Who was supposed to do better in the darker blue areas?
They vote close to the national average, so when these municipalities come in the patterns there will provide useful information on the distribution of the vote across the board.
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« Reply #1290 on: March 15, 2017, 11:20:30 AM »
« Edited: March 15, 2017, 11:22:24 AM by SunSt0rm »

Turnout in Rotterdam is going up like a rocket, 48.2% now. Big spike in turnout between 16 and 17. Migrant areas stay behind. Potentially good news for the PVV.

Are you sure? I see the south of Rotterdam is lacking in turnout, which I just checked the base of the PVV. It is a polarized area where the whites vote for the PVV and migrants voted for PvdA but this time for Denk.

http://maps.nrc.nl/ps2015/ps2015sb-100pct.php
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« Reply #1291 on: March 15, 2017, 11:23:19 AM »

Prediction
(1 point):
Largest party: VVD
Largest in Amsterdam: D66
Largest in Utrecht (city): GroenLinks
Largest in Rotterdam: PVV
Largest in Den Haag: VVD

(2 points):
Largest in Limburg: PVV
Largest in Zuid-Holland: VVD
Largest in Noord-Holland: VVD
Largest in Flevoland: VVD
Largest in Zeeland: CDA
Largest in Overijssel:CDA
Largest in Friesland: CDA
Largest in Groningen: SP
Largest in Drenthe: VVD
Largest in Noord-Brabant: VVD
Largest in Utrecht (province): VVD
Largest in Gelderland: VVD

(3 points):
PVV over or under 15.5% (2010 result)? Under
Predict the order of the following parties correctly: CDA, D66, GL? CDA-D66-GL
PVV over or under 30% in the municipality of Nissewaard? Slightly under
Best VVD municipality? Laren
Best CDA municipality? Tubbergen
Best PVV municipality? Kerkrade
Best GL municipality? Utrecht
Best D66 municipality? Wageningen
PvdA over or under 16% in Amsterdam? Under
PVV over or under 24% in Rotterdam? Under
PvdA over or under 10% in The Hague? Over
Predict the order of the following parties in The Hague correctly: VVD, D66, PVV. VVD-PVV-D66
PVV over or under 25% in Limburg? Under
Margin between VVD and PVV in Flevoland smaller or larger than 2 points? Smaller
DENK over or under 7% in The Hague? Under

(4 points)
Best FvD municipality? Scheveningen
Best DENK municipality? Amsterdam
Best VNL municipality? Scheveningen
Which of DENK, FvD, PP and VNL get in? FvD and DENK


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« Reply #1292 on: March 15, 2017, 11:30:06 AM »

Polls close at 9 and there will be an exit poll at 9. Most of the vote will come in after 10:30/11.

EDT/CDT ?

Life hack: Try googling "What time is it in Amsterdam" and then do the math. There's a 5 hour difference from EDT if Google is to be believed.
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« Reply #1293 on: March 15, 2017, 11:36:24 AM »
« Edited: March 15, 2017, 11:39:35 AM by DavidB. »

Are you sure? I see the south of Rotterdam is lacking in turnout, which I just checked the base of the PVV. It is a polarized area where the whites vote for the PVV and migrants voted for PvdA but this time for Denk.

http://maps.nrc.nl/ps2015/ps2015sb-100pct.php
51% turnout now (though as I write this the numbers will go up); Charlois 39%, Delfshaven 42%, Feijenoord 47%, IJsselmonde 46%, Alexander 54%, Pernis 55%, Rozenburg 57%, HvH 60%, Hill-Sch 59%, Hoogvliet 49%, K-C 54%, Centrum 79%, Noord 48%, Hoogvliet 49%.

High turnout in Alexander, Pernis, Rozenburg, HvH should be good for the PVV. Low turnout in Charlois (true, quite some PVV voters out there too) and Delfshaven, and the higher turnout in Feijenoord may well be due to the more affluent Kop van Zuid area that will vote D66/VVD/GL rather than the more migrant-heavy neighborhoods like the Afrikaanderwijk. Don't think this is bad news for the PVV (though IJsselmonde lags behind). But obviously all this #analysis should be taken with a grain of salt.
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« Reply #1294 on: March 15, 2017, 11:40:59 AM »

Peak voting has started, as we can see from the real-time Rotterdam page.

The next 2.5 hours will see the highest hourly voting figures of the day.

This hour is already heading for 30.000 votes.

The next 2 hours will likely see 35.000-38.000 votes each.
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« Reply #1295 on: March 15, 2017, 11:43:26 AM »

Some cities in the south not really turning out as others:

Eindhoven 41% roughly equal to 2010
Breda 47%, 45.5 in 2012
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« Reply #1296 on: March 15, 2017, 11:49:43 AM »

Are you sure? I see the south of Rotterdam is lacking in turnout, which I just checked the base of the PVV. It is a polarized area where the whites vote for the PVV and migrants voted for PvdA but this time for Denk.

http://maps.nrc.nl/ps2015/ps2015sb-100pct.php
51% turnout now (though as I write this the numbers will go up); Charlois 39%, Delfshaven 42%, Feijenoord 47%, IJsselmonde 46%, Alexander 54%, Pernis 55%, Rozenburg 57%, HvH 60%, Hill-Sch 59%, Hoogvliet 49%, K-C 54%, Centrum 79%, Noord 48%, Hoogvliet 49%.

High turnout in Alexander, Pernis, Rozenburg, HvH should be good for the PVV. Low turnout in Charlois (true, quite some PVV voters out there too) and Delfshaven, and the higher turnout in Feijenoord may well be due to the more affluent Kop van Zuid area that will vote D66/VVD/GL rather than the more migrant-heavy neighborhoods like the Afrikaanderwijk. Don't think this is bad news for the PVV (though IJsselmonde lags behind). But obviously all this #analysis should be taken with a grain of salt.

One would expect that PVV voters are working-class and they are ... currently working. Or have worked until now. Which means these areas in the South should see a significant rise in turnout over the next 3 hours, when these people leave their workplace.

If these areas do not experience a much higher turnout in the next hours, that's bad for the PVV.
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« Reply #1297 on: March 15, 2017, 11:51:49 AM »

Joost from Breda, was supposedly undecided between PVV and SP, before the Turkish riots and then decided to vote PVV.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SebastiaanQ/status/842037713368948736
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« Reply #1298 on: March 15, 2017, 11:52:19 AM »

voting on work days still seems like a horrible concept for me.
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« Reply #1299 on: March 15, 2017, 11:54:05 AM »

Turnout in Groningen well over 60%. Utrecht around 60%. Enschede supposedly about 9% higher than 2012
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