Who really supports 'family values'?

[dazzleman]

According to to the National Center for Health Statistics, unmarried women accounted for 68 percent of black births in 2002 compared to 43.4 percent for Hispanics and 22.9 percent for whites. In 1965, the out-of-wedlock birth rate for blacks stood at 25 percent.

I think your argument that somehow gay marriage is related to out of wedlock relationships is pretty fanciful and not addressing the issue.  The real problem is in the general feeling in our culture that somehow the above statistic is not disturbing.  Our culture has been force fed this idiotic girl power, I don't need no man and feminist empowerment b.s. down our throat.  Young woman have been led to believe that just because it is possible to raise a child on your own that it is adviseable.  Young men have failed to take responsibility for their actions because we live in a society where we avoid things that are difficult at all costs and always choose the path of least resistance.  My own mother was a single mom for sometime (natural father was a p.o.s.).  Being a single parent is extraordinarily difficult and you cannot substitute the role of a father.  In summation, Dan Quayle was right,  albeit awkward, about Murphy Brown.

You are absolutely right. 

The problem is not so much that gay marriage causes family structure decay and breakdown.  It doesn't.  The problem is that the same people who are unconcerned about the highly disturbing statistics put forth by patrick1, statistics with which I was already familiar, are the ones who are pushing gay marriage.  These people simply have no credibility when it comes to family values.

[dazzleman]

Hey, I am concerned about these statistics, and am pushing for same-sex marriage.

If you are concerned with those statistics, you're in a distinct minority among those of your political leanings.

The same people who are pushing gay marriage are, by and large, those who applauded the social changes that led to the rapid deterioration of family structures, with catastrophic results for blacks in particular.

That's one of the reasons why many people, including myself, are suspicious of the motives of those pushing gay marriage.

[dazzleman]

Hey, I am concerned about these statistics, and am pushing for same-sex marriage.

If you are concerned with those statistics, you're in a distinct minority among those of your political leanings.

The same people who are pushing gay marriage are, by and large, those who applauded the social changes that led to the rapid deterioration of family structures, with catastrophic results for blacks in particular.

That's one of the reasons why many people, including myself, are suspicious of the motives of those pushing gay marriage.

Well there's nothing to worry about gays getting married in terms of family values. If anything, they would make better families than families with straight parents, if the gay people I know are any indication.

Nothing will make me trust the people pushing a liberal social agenda that has done so much damage to society already.