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« on: May 12, 2015, 09:35:27 am »

McCrory Approval: 33/49
 
Cooper (D) 47%
McCrory (R) 45%

http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/north-carolina-poll-bush-walker-lead-in-gop-field-cooper-mccory-close-in-governors-race/
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2015, 09:39:40 am »

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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2015, 10:53:48 am »

New Poll: North Carolina Governor by Gravis Marketing on 2015-04-30

Summary: D: 47%, R: 45%, U: 8%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2015, 11:05:26 am »

Good.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2015, 11:16:24 am »


Why? Its going to be close either way.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2015, 11:25:39 am »

North Carolina is totally becoming the Republicans Pennsylvania. Democrats can compete and win statewide/Senate races, but its going to take a great environment for the Democrats to win the state during a Presidential election.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2015, 12:30:21 pm »

The poll was taken before McCrory's announcement of a sizable budget surplus in the state and that the state paid off a huge debt to the federal government. I wonder if that would move the needle some.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2015, 12:36:53 pm »

Gravis>PPP in 2014 in NC.
I put them at even at least in NC and Florida in 2016.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2015, 12:37:41 pm »

Gravis>PPP in 2014 in NC.
I put them at even at least in NC and Florida in 2016.

lol

It's fairly well-known in political circles that Gravis is a GOP stooge firm.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2015, 12:39:35 pm »

Right and PPP (D) isn't a Democratic firm? Yet one is claimed to have much more credibility than the other in NC and other states, yet both firms had a very respectable year and a bad year. 2012/2014. I think we should follow both companies in this case, with Gravis having the most recent results.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2015, 01:39:42 pm »

Right and PPP (D) isn't a Democratic firm? Yet one is claimed to have much more credibility than the other in NC and other states, yet both firms had a very respectable year and a bad year. 2012/2014. I think we should follow both companies in this case, with Gravis having the most recent results.

That's irrelevant. PPP doesn't try and pose as a non-partisan firm.
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2015, 02:00:17 pm »

Gravis was very good in 2014.
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2015, 04:31:21 pm »

Doesn't seem like Gravis' polls are any more different than PPP's. Besides if they were truly partisan, why would they want to show a sitti Republican governor down?
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2015, 04:34:23 pm »

This race is gonna be very close. Cooper may very well end up winning; with or without Clinton coattails in NC.
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2015, 04:37:34 pm »

This race is gonna be very close. Cooper may very well end up winning; with or without Clinton coattails in NC.

Yes I agree, but in the spirit of the board I agree we should wait on another poll to confirm this result
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2015, 08:10:44 pm »

The poll was taken before McCrory's announcement of a sizable budget surplus in the state and that the state paid off a huge debt to the federal government. I wonder if that would move the needle some.

Why does any state need to be a symmetrical political equivalent of another state?
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2015, 09:14:44 pm »

I suspect Governor Duke Energy will pull out defeat from the jaws of victory.
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2015, 09:54:49 pm »

North Carolina is totally becoming the Republicans Pennsylvania. Democrats can compete and win statewide/Senate races, but its going to take a great environment for the Democrats to win the state during a Presidential election.

Hmm... What are you talking about becoming... NC has always been that way. In fact McCrory is the first republican governor in a very long time.
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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2015, 10:17:31 pm »


Show me the data.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2015, 10:21:11 pm »


http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-north-carolina-polling/

They were off by 1 point. Harper got it exactly right (Tillis + 2).
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2015, 10:25:15 pm »


Next they will pull out a poll from years prior to try and discredit that. While I can do the same with PPP when they pull out the 2012 good results and point to 2014 NC results that were not up to par compared to Gravis'.
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2015, 12:18:50 am »

Gravis is a joke. Gravis always forecasts larger Republican leads or smaller Republican losses toward the end than what more respected pollsters show, which tend to be more accurate. The respected outlets weren't correct in 2014 - Gravis was right for once because their usual habit of saying every race is 3-7 points more Republican than what other polls show actually wound up being coincidentally correct this time. There was an institution-wide failure with respect to sampling the electorate in 2014; Gravis' usual, silly antics made them look better in comparison.
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2015, 01:49:44 am »


One poll in one state. If they have a track record I'm not aware about, then we can talk.
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2015, 09:55:52 am »


Plenty of more states they were close too, such as Colorado and Iowa. They also were one of the few to show the Maryland Governor race to be close.
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