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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2015, 05:38:55 PM »
Now I believe it's time to explain why I want to simply repeal this amendment. I completely agree with Oakvale and Bore, this is basically unnecessary.

1) Firstly, the senates shouldn't be impeached. They should be EXPULSED and there senate procedures for that.

2) Secondly, the "I concur with" is just extremely ANNOYING. I mean, this is useless. An active Justice could forget to say 'I concur with" where an inactive Justice could just say these few words and not doing anything.

3) And finally, the impeachment part for the president, the senators and the Vice president is annoying and useless. Useless because no one is going to impeach someone who was inactive for just a week except me. That's why I hope the senators will vote in favor of my amendment when Cranberry a senator will object Tongue.
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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2015, 05:39:18 PM »
Senators have 36 hours to object to Windjammer's amendment.
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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2015, 05:45:54 PM »
I object.
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2015, 05:50:31 PM »
Senators, a vote on Windjammer's amendment is now open. Please vote AYE, NAY or Abstain.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2015, 05:54:02 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2015, 05:57:08 PM »
Aye
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2015, 06:50:02 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2015, 09:26:54 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2015, 07:17:32 AM »
What is windjammer's amendment?
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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2015, 08:48:05 AM »

The repeal of the 19th amendment to the constitution.

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« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2015, 09:51:15 AM »
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« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2015, 03:10:10 PM »
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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2015, 03:13:32 PM »
Nay

I understand Senator Windjammer's concerns, but I think that we should keep it in the Constitution.
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« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2015, 03:22:26 PM »
This has enough votes to fail. I let 24 hours for those who haven't voted to vote if they want their vote to be counted in my tracker.
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« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2015, 08:56:11 PM »
NAY

I don't see anything wrong with maintaining a minimum, easy to attain standard of activity through which we can force an immediate trial. If you can't even do some of these simple things, it's difficult to argue why you should stay in office.
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« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2015, 05:26:03 PM »
The results of the vote:
Aye (1): Windjammer
Nay (Cool: Talleyrand, Cris, SWE, TNF, Cranberry, Griffin, Polnut, Lief
Non voting (1): Hagrid

Windjammer's amndment has failed to pass the senate.
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« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2015, 05:36:02 PM »
Thank you for trying to repeal that wrongheaded amendment, Windjammer.
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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2015, 05:38:20 PM »
Quote from: oakvale on March 20, 2015, 05:36:02 PM
Thank you for trying to repeal that wrongheaded amendment, Windjammer.
You're welcome oakvale.
I wonder how much time will it be needed to convince the senators to repeal this.
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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2015, 06:19:34 PM »
« Edited: April 04, 2015, 02:05:28 AM by Mideast Senator and Senate speaker windjammer »
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Because a senator isn't IMPEACHED but EXPULSED. And we have senate rules for that.
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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2015, 07:24:23 PM »
Senators have 36 hours to object.
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« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2015, 09:55:50 PM »
Windjammer what is your rationale for that amendment?
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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2015, 04:14:49 AM »
Why can a Senator not be impeached when he's not doing his job? I see no reason to abolish this. I do know that we have expulsion as well, but why not both? What's so bad about it?
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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2015, 12:15:07 PM »
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This is our constitution that only allows impeachment for judicial or executive officer. Neither a judicial or executive officer is a senator.
The 21st amendment contradicts the constitution. My amendment would fix it.


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Here are the senate rules, (I will soon try to amendment some things in the senate rules), so my amendment wouldn't avoid senators to be removed from office, just to be clear.
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« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2015, 12:18:55 PM »
Impeachment is a formal legal process. Expulsion is just based on the Senate's power to decide its own rules and membership. I support Senator-Comrade Antonio's amendment.
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« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2015, 12:31:59 PM »
I support the Senator Windjammer's amendment.
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