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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2015, 06:26:44 PM »

Uh, I hope he is not serious (probably just attention). Still, Carson wouldn't lose 49 states either. Heck, he is even tying Clinton in NC.
But then again, two years ago Dems were telling everyone that Hillary would win TX, KY, LA, AR, AZ, MO, MS, WV and of course NC. VA, FL, OH, WI, CO were already solid Hillary states. This may not be as ridiculous as the thought of Carson winning 49 states, but it is still a joke.

Yes, but most people thought (and Republicans were still fervently praying) that Hillary wouldn't run back then.

This was before the midterms, when the final nail in the coffin was set in LA and AR, Childers didn't even hit 40% in MS, Grimes/Tennant/Curtis lost in large landslides, the brakes were hit hard in  the effort to turn AZ/GA/TX purple, NC lost any sense of being anything more than the democrats equivalent of PA for the republicans, FL re-elected a criminal, Kasich won Cuyahoga, a former personhood supporter won in CO (and a former birther came pretty close to winning), Walker won by 5, and Warner almost lost despite being a "supposedly super popular senator that not even god could defeat".

(MO will only happen for Clinton if GA, AZ (probably), and NC go for her as well, given how it's been trending since the 90's.)

Democrats were confidently and publicly predicting that they would hold the senate right up until the first polls closed. Nah, they weren't just muttering it behind closed doors, it was on the news shows, in public addresses and press releases, everything. Even Joe Biden had this sort of huge confidence. Most democrats, not just the Daily Kos Writers, were very confident, right up until the 1st polls closed, that even if the GOP picked up MT, SD, WV, AR, LA, and IA, the democrats would hold AK, CO, and NC (and obviously NH), pick up GA, and get Orman to caucus with them, leading to at least a 51-49 Majority when all was said and done. Now that that didn't happen, they're all realizing how dumb their early 2016 predictions were, and are rolling them back quite fast.

What do you expect high ranking Democrats to say? "Yeah, we're gonna lose, it's over"? Every single doomed candidate/party always says publicly that they're optimistic they will win, and "the only poll that counts is the one on election day". The question is if they actually believe it. Atlas is a pretty left wing site and most polls on the Congressional Elections board had Republicans taking the Senate for months. The official site predictions were a lagging indicator due to so many ancient predictions from 2013/early 2014 gumming up the works.
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2015, 08:56:34 PM »

Uh, I hope he is not serious (probably just attention). Still, Carson wouldn't lose 49 states either. Heck, he is even tying Clinton in NC.
But then again, two years ago Dems were telling everyone that Hillary would win TX, KY, LA, AR, AZ, MO, MS, WV and of course NC. VA, FL, OH, WI, CO were already solid Hillary states. This may not be as ridiculous as the thought of Carson winning 49 states, but it is still a joke.

Yes, but most people thought (and Republicans were still fervently praying) that Hillary wouldn't run back then.

This was before the midterms, when the final nail in the coffin was set in LA and AR, Childers didn't even hit 40% in MS, Grimes/Tennant/Curtis lost in large landslides, the brakes were hit hard in  the effort to turn AZ/GA/TX purple, NC lost any sense of being anything more than the democrats equivalent of PA for the republicans, FL re-elected a criminal, Kasich won Cuyahoga, a former personhood supporter won in CO (and a former birther came pretty close to winning), Walker won by 5, and Warner almost lost despite being a "supposedly super popular senator that not even god could defeat".

(MO will only happen for Clinton if GA, AZ (probably), and NC go for her as well, given how it's been trending since the 90's.)

Democrats were confidently and publicly predicting that they would hold the senate right up until the first polls closed. Nah, they weren't just muttering it behind closed doors, it was on the news shows, in public addresses and press releases, everything. Even Joe Biden had this sort of huge confidence. Most democrats, not just the Daily Kos Writers, were very confident, right up until the 1st polls closed, that even if the GOP picked up MT, SD, WV, AR, LA, and IA, the democrats would hold AK, CO, and NC (and obviously NH), pick up GA, and get Orman to caucus with them, leading to at least a 51-49 Majority when all was said and done. Now that that didn't happen, they're all realizing how dumb their early 2016 predictions were, and are rolling them back quite fast.

What do you expect high ranking Democrats to say? "Yeah, we're gonna lose, it's over"? Every single doomed candidate/party always says publicly that they're optimistic they will win, and "the only poll that counts is the one on election day". The question is if they actually believe it. Atlas is a pretty left wing site and most polls on the Congressional Elections board had Republicans taking the Senate for months. The official site predictions were a lagging indicator due to so many ancient predictions from 2013/early 2014 gumming up the works.
The atlas aggregate senate predictions got everything right except North Carolina. Yet every non atlas democrat of note was predicting, very confidently, at every turn, right up until the first polls closed, that the republicans ABSOLUTE CEILING was this:

Hold: KY + all the safe seats
PickUp: SD, MT, WV, AR, LA, IA
Lose: GA, KS (to Orman, who caucuses with the democrats)

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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2015, 04:21:01 PM »

Well, he probably won't win 49 states, but he does consistently beat Clinton in the recent opinion polling, and even beat her by eleven points (which would, indeed, be the greatest margin of victory since 1984) in last month's Fox poll.
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2015, 04:35:48 PM »

Like how Hillary supporters said she could carry Arkansas.
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2015, 04:38:29 PM »

Well, he probably won't win 49 states, but he does consistently beat Clinton in the recent opinion polling, and even beat her by eleven points (which would, indeed, be the greatest margin of victory since 1984) in last month's Fox poll.

Everything I know about politics and this universe even would shatter if Ben Carson not only won the presidency but in a landslide too.
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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2015, 04:48:29 PM »

Carson wouldn't even win the states Goldwater won.
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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2015, 06:26:53 PM »


360: Dr. Ben Carson(R-MD)/Gov. Brian Sandoval(R-NV) - 53.2%
178: Sen. Bernie Sanders(D-VT)/Rep. Keith Ellison(D-MN) - 45.0%

Other: 1.7%

Closest States:
Illinois - 0.3%
New Jersey - 0.8%

Oregon - 0.9%

In D. C., Carson wins 25-30% of the vote and nearly one quarter of the AA vote nationwide.
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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2015, 06:47:10 PM »

FWIW, I went to a Ben Carson book signing today that about 2,000 people attended and at least 20% of them were older black women. Of course the other 80% were white middle aged/retirees who are TOTALLY NOT RACIST!!!1! decked out in American flag shirts.
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« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2015, 07:28:47 PM »

Carson's base of support:

1) Evangelicals
2) Swing voters / moderates
3) Older blacks (particularly black women)
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