MA: Amendment to Article I, Section 5 (Passed)

[Boston Bread]

JCL, can you explain the importance of section 4? Ultimately I would accept either mine or Shua's amendments but the rest of the assembly seems to agree that section 4 isn't necessary in its current form.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

JCL, can you explain the importance of section 4? Ultimately I would accept either mine or Shua's amendments but the rest of the assembly seems to agree that section 4 isn't necessary in its current form.

Clause 4 explains the possible cases of needing the Lt. Gov. to cast a decide a tie breaking vote. I'm just trying to understand why my fellow assemblymen don't see the need for clause 4. I'm willing to work with either amendment.

[Boston Bread]

I believe tie-breaking procedure should be more flexible so it does a better job of breaking gridlock, but I'm willing to compromise.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

JCL, can you explain the importance of section 4? Ultimately I would accept either mine or Shua's amendments but the rest of the assembly seems to agree that section 4 isn't necessary in its current form.

Clause 4 explains the possible cases of needing the Lt. Gov. to cast a decide a tie breaking vote. I'm just trying to understand why my fellow assemblymen don't see the need for clause 4. I'm willing to work with either amendment.

Do you believe we need to limit when the LG can break ties?

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

JCL, can you explain the importance of section 4? Ultimately I would accept either mine or Shua's amendments but the rest of the assembly seems to agree that section 4 isn't necessary in its current form.

Clause 4 explains the possible cases of needing the Lt. Gov. to cast a decide a tie breaking vote. I'm just trying to understand why my fellow assemblymen don't see the need for clause 4. I'm willing to work with either amendment.

Do you believe we need to limit when the LG can break ties?

I'm trying to figure a way to give him/her this power but still maintain separation of powers and prevent abuse of said power. Giving an absolute tie breaker vote may subvert that.

[Boston Bread]

Let's start sorting this out. I will call a vote on Shua's amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Abstain

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Aye

[Boston Bread]

Abstain

[Boston Bread]

There has been enough voting time on Shua's amendment, and it has passed 1-0, 2 abstaining.
Assemblyman JCL, would you rather have a vote on my amendment or a final vote now? Like I said I would accept either of the two amendments.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

There has been enough voting time on Shua's amendment, and it has passed 1-0, 2 abstaining.
Assemblyman JCL, would you rather have a vote on my amendment or a final vote now? Like I said I would accept either of the two amendments.

I'd like to request a vote on your amendment.

[Boston Bread]

I am calling a vote on my amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain. Note that Shua's amendment will be replaced if it passes.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Nay

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Aye

[Boston Bread]

Aye

[Boston Bread]

The amendment has passed 2-1. A final vote will follow if there is no additional debate by tomorrow.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I have an amendment removing the two clauses which I consider superfluous given their enactment is assumed by the process of adopting a constitutional amendment.

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Also I think we may need to clarify what is meant by a "deadlock."

[Boston Bread]

I support Shua's suggestions. Regarding the ambiguity of a deadlock, I am proposing a modified amendment to clarify what a deadlock is.

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Shua, would this suffice?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I'll go ahead and amend it further to show the kind of clarification i think we need:

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[Boston Bread]

I accept Shua's suggestion. I withdraw my amendment.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Why is clause 5 marked out?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Why is clause 5 marked out?

Constitutional Amendments always go into force upon their ratification, unless stated otherwise, so it isn't necessary.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Why is clause 5 marked out?

Constitutional Amendments always go into force upon their ratification, unless stated otherwise, so it isn't necessary.

Then I'm ok with it.

[Boston Bread]

I am calling a vote on Shua's most recent amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Aye