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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2015, 06:47:46 AM »
My proposals actually pass with some regularity.
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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2015, 07:27:10 PM »
I second the motion to table
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2015, 02:19:53 AM »
I object.
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2015, 02:28:54 AM »
They need a third senator, so that won't happen, dont worry.
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2015, 02:54:12 AM »
I won't motion to table, but I won't vote for this.
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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2015, 10:13:48 AM »
You only need two motions to table, then a vote is held, windjammer.
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2015, 02:12:35 PM »
To clear up the confusion:

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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2015, 11:32:16 AM »
So there is no serious debate going on here anymore?
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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2015, 12:03:37 PM »
As said in the past, if you want, I'm open to public binding consultations.
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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2015, 12:07:15 PM »
As I already said, I will support this law. Do you want us to still debate this amendment or can I motion for a final vote Cris?
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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2015, 12:15:38 PM »
Quote from: Mideast Senator windjammer on February 03, 2015, 12:07:15 PM
As I already said, I will support this law. Do you want us to still debate this amendment or can I motion for a final vote Cris?

I think of yes, Windjammer.
I pointed out three times my support for an amendment for binding consultations, but considered that no Senators have responded, and that I'm ok with the amendment as it stands, I'm ready for a final vote.
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« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2015, 12:21:41 PM »
I motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2015, 11:26:59 AM »
Senators a final vote is now open on this legislation, please vote aye nay or abstain
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« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2015, 01:30:03 PM »
Aye
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« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2015, 03:51:17 PM »
Aye
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« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2015, 04:44:51 PM »
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« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2015, 06:34:54 PM »
abstain
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« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2015, 07:08:11 PM »
NAY
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« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2015, 07:22:33 PM »
Aye
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« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2015, 09:24:11 PM »
NAY I Guess
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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2015, 05:07:15 AM »
Abstain

This has enough votes to fail, senators have 24 hours to change their votes
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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2015, 11:51:16 AM »
Abstain
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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2015, 02:06:39 PM »
Nay

This is a gigantic waste of time
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« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2015, 03:20:02 AM »
By a margin of 3-4-3 this has failed:

Aye: Cris, Windjammer, Lief

Nay: TNF, Yankee, Polnut, SWE

Abstain: Bore, Cranberry, Bacon King
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« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2015, 05:42:26 PM »
I wouldn't say a complete waste of time. Though far less formal, I used to hold all Senator townhalls as PPT in order to get public input. Oftentimes they didn't receive enough participation from the public to justify doing them, but I still kept trying at different points hoping a different time would mean a different result.

I also used to randomly PM members of the IDS to get their views on topics, but the result of that was often even worse in terms of participation and response.
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