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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #475 on: December 20, 2015, 01:52:59 PM »

Hi guys! I'm back to follow this.
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Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan
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« Reply #476 on: December 20, 2015, 02:01:04 PM »

So Podemos more votes than PSOE but less MPs? Lol.
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« Reply #477 on: December 20, 2015, 02:05:13 PM »

RTVe has PP + C's eight seats short of a majority

Oh dear...
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« Reply #478 on: December 20, 2015, 02:06:24 PM »

RTVe has PP + C's eight seats short of a majority

Oh dear...
Not even a grosse koalition...a huge coalition would be needed then.
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« Reply #479 on: December 20, 2015, 02:08:43 PM »

Gut feel but may be wrong:

Wouldn't be surprised if exits have understated PP and overstated Podemos compared to final result.

So PP minority govt with conf & supply from C's plus one or two nationalists may be possible.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #480 on: December 20, 2015, 02:09:00 PM »

Where are you following the results? The Interior website still has 0% counted.
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« Reply #481 on: December 20, 2015, 02:11:08 PM »

http://www.rtve.es/directo/canal-24h/
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« Reply #482 on: December 20, 2015, 02:16:55 PM »


It's not working for me...
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« Reply #483 on: December 20, 2015, 02:19:33 PM »

RTVe has PP + C's eight seats short of a majority

Oh dear...

Perhaps PP-Socialist grand alliance to keep out P and separatists
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« Reply #484 on: December 20, 2015, 02:31:51 PM »

Options:
- PP + PSOE; both corrupt, power-hungry parties that want to ensure the government's "job machine" will stay within the same hands
- PP + C's + some nationalist MPs (not all parties have to be in the govt, could be minority)
- PSOE + Podemos + C's (not all parties have to be in the govt, could be minority)
- New elections?
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« Reply #485 on: December 20, 2015, 02:43:01 PM »
« Edited: December 20, 2015, 02:46:52 PM by Clarko95 »

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-spain-election-exit-polls-idUSKBN0U30UB20151220?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews


Reuters is calling it a "win" for PP, which is a bit strange because now they have to cede a lot of their agenda, especially if it's with the Socialists.

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Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan
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« Reply #486 on: December 20, 2015, 02:51:48 PM »




Some exit polls for Catalonia and Basque Country.
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« Reply #487 on: December 20, 2015, 02:55:32 PM »

Options:
- PP + C's + some nationalist MPs (not all parties have to be in the govt, could be minority)

Do Bildu take their seats in the Cortes?

Apart from the Canarian Coalition, who may or may not take a seat, none of the remaining nationalist parties are likely to find a PP/C arrangement palatable.
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« Reply #488 on: December 20, 2015, 03:05:00 PM »

Options:
- PP + C's + some nationalist MPs (not all parties have to be in the govt, could be minority)

Do Bildu take their seats in the Cortes?

Apart from the Canarian Coalition, who may or may not take a seat, none of the remaining nationalist parties are likely to find a PP/C arrangement palatable.

Yes , Bildu MPs will  take their seats.

No way. Only CC could support such arrangement. It'd be a PP minority government in any case.

Booths closed in the Canaries at 8:00 GMT. From now on, official results will appear in the Interior website.

LOL Convergencia  Cheesy
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« Reply #489 on: December 20, 2015, 03:08:44 PM »

Some exit polls for Catalonia and Basque Country.
En Comu is Podemos in Catalonia, isn't it?
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« Reply #490 on: December 20, 2015, 03:10:04 PM »

Podemos (or rather Podem) + Allies.
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« Reply #491 on: December 20, 2015, 03:11:48 PM »

Yes . En Comu Podem is Podemos , ICV , EUiA (IU) and Barcelona en Comu.
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« Reply #492 on: December 20, 2015, 03:13:19 PM »

Podemos (or rather Podem) + Allies.
Yes . En Comu Podem is Podemos , ICV , EUiA (IU) and Barcelona en Comu.
Thanks.
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« Reply #493 on: December 20, 2015, 03:16:39 PM »

Largest party in each region so far.
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« Reply #494 on: December 20, 2015, 03:18:39 PM »

Voters choose chaos it is then.
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« Reply #495 on: December 20, 2015, 03:20:28 PM »

PSOE so far doing better than polls and exit polls,  C doing worse.
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« Reply #496 on: December 20, 2015, 03:22:40 PM »

As it stands, PSOE, Podemos and Ciudadanos could form a majority collation - from what I understand all three are left of centre (Podemos being most left wing). Is this plausible though?
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« Reply #497 on: December 20, 2015, 03:25:24 PM »

As it stands, PSOE, Podemos and Ciudadanos could form a majority collation - from what I understand all three are left of centre (Podemos being most left wing). Is this plausible though?

I doubt C will join up with Podemos.
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« Reply #498 on: December 20, 2015, 03:27:11 PM »

Count at 25%:

PP 125 seats , PSOE 96,  Podemos 63, Ciudadanos 31, DL 9, ERC 9, PNV 6, UP (IU) 2

As it stands, PSOE, Podemos and Ciudadanos could form a majority collation - from what I understand all three are left of centre (Podemos being most left wing). Is this plausible though?

Ciudadanos is right of the centre and won 't support such arrangement because Podemos is in favour of holding a referendum in Catalonia.
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« Reply #499 on: December 20, 2015, 03:27:41 PM »

As it stands, PSOE, Podemos and Ciudadanos could form a majority collation - from what I understand all three are left of centre (Podemos being most left wing). Is this plausible though?
What do you understand?
PSOE are centre-left, Podemos are left wing and Ciudadanos are centre-left; People's Party are centre-right. The question being is it plausible that those three could do a deal with each other to keep the People's Party out.
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