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jaichind
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2016, 03:03:54 PM »

69% in

PP           31.98%       135
PSOE       23.50%        89
Podemos  21.36%        72 
C             12,27%        29

PP and C gaining vote share.  PSOE falling vote share.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2016, 03:06:30 PM »

The trend from Madrid is still PSOE is getting a swing from Podemos and C with 36% of the vote in.  Podemos shot is bolt by forming an alliance with IU.   The net result is Podemos losing vote share and no real gain in terms of seats even though the threshold effect of the IU bloc should have gained it a lot of seats.
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jaichind
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2016, 03:10:36 PM »

74% in

PP           32.16%       136
PSOE       23.38%        89
Podemos  21.32%        71  
C             12.40%        29

C still going up.  C's results not as far as they must have feared when they saw the exit polls given that back in 2015 C totally under-performed exit polls.  This time it is Podemos's turn.
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jaichind
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2016, 03:13:35 PM »

Podemos falling apart in Madrid.  They are down 3.5% from 2015 and getting worse as more votes comes in.  C is down around 2% since 2015.   PSOE and to some extend PP are the gainers.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2016, 03:18:42 PM »

I most likely do not know what I am talking about.  But based on the turnout patterns I feel the exit poll most likely overestimates Podemos and underestimates PP and PSOE.    I guess we will see.

I now accept my accolades (this is an old forum joke stemming from the 2004 US elections.)
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2016, 03:21:43 PM »

I wonder how much effect the post-Brexit market and political (at least in UK) choas had on this election.  If should have driven the voters to go for establishment parties which seems to have taken place.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2016, 03:23:06 PM »

82% in

PP           32.44%       136
PSOE       23.17%        88
Podemos  21.27%        71 
C             12.61%        30

PP and C continue to gain from PSOE.  Podemos losing ground very slowing.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2016, 03:24:07 PM »

Podemos now down 4% in Madrid and falling.  PP now up 3% and rising.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2016, 03:35:39 PM »

88% in

PP           32.68%       136
PSOE       23.00%        87
Podemos  21.22%        71 
C             12.77%        31

PP and C continue to gain from PSOE.  Podemos losing ground very slowing.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #84 on: June 26, 2016, 03:48:48 PM »

93% in

PP           32.85%       136
PSOE       22.84%        86
Podemos  21.17%        71  
C             12.90%        32

PP and C continue to gain from PSOE.  Podemos losing ground very slowing.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #85 on: June 26, 2016, 03:50:31 PM »

So this election looks like it is about

a) Some 2015 C voters voting PP
b) 2015 PSOE vote staying with PSOE
3) Some 2015 Podemos-IU voters just staying home.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #86 on: June 26, 2016, 04:04:42 PM »

It is hard to argue for Rajoy to go since this is the third election in a row where he led PP to be the largest party in terms of seats and votes.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #87 on: June 26, 2016, 04:06:07 PM »

96% in

PP           32.95%       137
PSOE       22.77%        85
Podemos  21.13%        71 
C             12.97%        32

PP and C continue to gain from PSOE.  Podemos losing ground very slowing.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
United States


Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #88 on: June 26, 2016, 04:22:12 PM »

98% in

PP           32.99%       137
PSOE       22.71%        85
Podemos  21.12%        71  
C             13.01%        32

C crosses 13%
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #89 on: June 26, 2016, 04:23:35 PM »

How the hell it is possible that Spanish electoral commissions needed only 3.5 hours to count all votes? Do you have any texts in English about counting system in Spain?

http://resultados2016.infoelecciones.es/99CO/DCO99999TO.htm?lang=es

I remember that last elections also it was fast but still for me this is unbelievable.

Yes, what is amazing is that they are 69% counted after one hour of counting.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #90 on: June 26, 2016, 04:46:49 PM »

99% in

PP           33.01%       137
PSOE       22.68%        85
Podemos  21.11%        71  
C             13.04%        32

PP crosses 33%
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
United States


Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #91 on: June 26, 2016, 04:51:20 PM »

Looks like PP increased its majority in the Senate from 124 to 130 with 78% of the votes counted.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #92 on: June 26, 2016, 04:53:30 PM »

Podemos now down 4.9% in Madrid while C only down around 1%.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #93 on: June 26, 2016, 04:59:27 PM »

I think the pressure on PSOE to abstain in a vote for a PP government would be quite large.  Over time that is the most likely outcome.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
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Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #94 on: June 26, 2016, 05:13:36 PM »

Pedro Sanchez, says his party's second place finish in Sunday's general election shows that "we are the foremost political power on the left."
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
United States


Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #95 on: June 26, 2016, 05:18:49 PM »

Rivera Says Ciudadanos Will Demand Electoral Reform in Spain
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
United States


Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #96 on: June 26, 2016, 05:27:45 PM »

99.86% in

PP           33.02%       137
PSOE       22.67%        85
Podemos  21.11%        71 
C             13.05%        32

I doubt it will change from here given how few votes are left.
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
United States


Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #97 on: June 26, 2016, 05:46:56 PM »

Rajoy: “We have won the elections -- we claim the right to govern”
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
United States


Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #98 on: June 26, 2016, 07:20:22 PM »

100% in

PP           33.03%       137
PSOE       22.66%        85
Podemos  21.10%        71 
C             13.05%        32
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jaichind
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Posts: 27,449
United States


Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #99 on: June 26, 2016, 07:22:37 PM »

Senate count is mostly done as well

PP              130  (+6)
PSOE           43  (-4)
Podemos      16  (--)
ERC-CATSÍ    10 (+4)
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