🇦🇹 Austria General Discussion

[ApatheticAustrian]

all is true at the same time.

1) it is less reported if it's austrian on austrian rape.

2) there are statistically more rape cases including foreigners (as victims and predators)

3) and....there aren't many many cases, to my knowledge, involving syrians.

[ApatheticAustrian]

i agrew with tender and disagree with david.

if the other countries have no refugee system or literally hate you, there can't be a logical explanation not to go further.

otherwise i am in favor of a working EU system but without one....can't really blame the real syria refugees who are rarely ever in the news.

[ApatheticAustrian]

can't really blame the real syria refugees who are rarely ever in the news.

I don't. If I were Syrian, I would absolutely do the same and move to Sweden (or Austria, or Germany, or the Netherlands), and so would every rational human being. I blame countries in Europe for not closing their borders.

you can make this point, i have shifted my positions on this matter widely since 2014 and i think it's a fair one.

i just don't like the "crossing borders = no more refugees" view.....otherwise there would have never ever been refugees across the sea.

[ApatheticAustrian]

ISIS et al and poverty are the main driver, liberal migration systems are only enhancing or focusing that drift, imho.

doesn't mean it has no consequences....but as long as africa/southern asia is in crisis, as long are its inhabitants going to risk their lives to leave.

[ApatheticAustrian]

this is obviously not "leeching" ... i think every modern big city should set up free wifi.... otherwise i am okay with that.

[ApatheticAustrian]

tender is not wrong, it just feels a little bit like the typical rural-city divide.

[ApatheticAustrian]

ofc austrians also deal with drugs....but they are doing it in more sophisticated and less "visible" ways.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Are you a member of the Grün party ? If they are anything like their counterparts in Germany then I find your political alignment strange

there is a big difference between the city green party and the rural green parties.

and like in germany, the green party also is strong in areas who have been historially hard for social democrats.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Does Poles steal a lot of cars in Austria or it's just in Germany?

i think this stereotype is 20 years out-of-date but i guess you would know best.

fun fact...the foreigners who are guilty of the most crimes in austria are....germans.

[ApatheticAustrian]

as Germans are the largest group of foreigners in Austria. Plus, 60 million German tourists are visiting us every year ...

they are but not so much bigger than the yugoslavian diaspora.

[ApatheticAustrian]

everybody KNOWS afghans are over-represented, actual syrians are not.

[ApatheticAustrian]

seems like the justice system is working just fine, imho.